Stalled for 3 months

[DomTirz]

Hello all, I've been using Tirz since august 2025, have lost to date 42 pounds (male 53yr, SW 230, CW 186, GW 175), currently using 8mg Tirz + 2mg survo; I do exercise 3-4 times a week (weights+cardio). I've been stalled since april, so close to GW but so hard to achieve it. I do appreciate any recomendation.

 

[fatjacked]

How long have you been at 8mg and how are your sides? Why add survo instead of just titrating up the tirz? Simplest answer would be to increase your dose if you can tolerate it.

 

[DomTirz]

How long have you been at 8mg and how are your sides? Why add survo instead of just titrating up the tirz? Simplest answer would be to increase your dose if you can tolerate it.

Thanks, been on 8mg since December, no side effects; once I try once going into 10mg and it hit hard, then went back to 7.5-8mg; added survo for the glucagon component.

 

[skaylife]

Hello all, I've been using Tirz since august 2025, have lost to date 42 pounds (male 53yr, SW 230, CW 186, GW 175), currently using 8mg Tirz + 2mg survo; I do exercise 3-4 times a week (weights+cardio). I've been stalled since april, so close to GW but so hard to achieve it. I do appreciate any recomendation.

I will recommend you what I have done after reaching the plateau. It has worked for me. I don't know what survo does. But I inject 350mcg Ipa+CJC-1295 No Dac stack at 05:00 AM(start working at 05:30 A.M.) and don't eat anything until 12:00 A.M. Getting hungry between 09 to 10:00 AM. But just ignoring that. After sometime it gets over. But at that time stack starts to gets its energy from my last few pounds belly fat to support the musscles. Still losing weight slowly at maintenance dose of 2mg/week Tirz and 350mcg ipa+cjc stack daily.

Before I was splitting the stack in 2 injections and eating regularly in small portions. At one point progress was stopped completely. But did not titrate to a higher dose. Only changed my practices.

 

[spanky2026]

You've got plenty of room to move up your tirz, if 10 hit too hard, try 9. Stalled that long definitely begs for a dose increase.

 

[DomTirz]

Thanks all

 

[Grogu]

Hello all, I've been using Tirz since august 2025, have lost to date 42 pounds (male 53yr, SW 230, CW 186, GW 175), currently using 8mg Tirz + 2mg survo; I do exercise 3-4 times a week (weights+cardio). I've been stalled since april, so close to GW but so hard to achieve it. I do appreciate any recomendation.

Keep in mind that the final pounds approaching goal weight are biologically more difficult to lose. It's not a matter of will power or working out, it's physiological. Our bodies are amazing things that we know a lot about, but not everything.

The biggest factors I would think are metabolic adaptation and leptin decline. Both of these are factors that would try to preserve fat mass. Probably from our hunter/gatherer days, when fat protected us in times of famine.

You might consider more protein and continuing with your resistance training. Those are usually good ways to "convince" your body your not starving to death. Some people say diet breaks or refeeds are helpful. If you're not familiar, that's when you eat at maintenance calories for a couple of weeks.

If looking for a peptide assist, you might consider adding an amylin agonist (i.e., cagri or elora) as those work on different pathways and in rat studies showed that adding elora adjunctively resulted in continued weight loss.

Good luck! I'm in the same exact spot. 8 more pounds to go 😡

 

[DomTirz]

Keep in mind that the final pounds approaching goal weight are biologically more difficult to lose. It's not a matter of will power or working out, it's physiological. Our bodies are amazing things that we know a lot about, but not everything.

The biggest factors I would think are metabolic adaptation and leptin decline. Both of these are factors that would try to preserve fat mass. Probably from our hunter/gatherer days, when fat protected us in times of famine.

You might consider more protein and continuing with your resistance training. Those are usually good ways to "convince" your body your not starving to death. Some people say diet breaks or refeeds are helpful. If you're not familiar, that's when you eat at maintenance calories for a couple of weeks.

If looking for a peptide assist, you might consider adding an amylin agonist (i.e., cagri or elora) as those work on different pathways and in rat studies showed that adding elora adjunctively resulted in continued weight loss.

Good luck! I'm in the same exact spot. 8 more pounds to go 😡

Thanks Groku, will add Cagri

 

[Grogu]

Thanks Groku, will add Cagri

Good luck! When adding Cagri a little goes a long ways, so you want to start low and slow. I started at .5mg and probably should have started at .25mg. I’m on week 6 and still at .5mg.

 

[DomTirz]

Good luck! When adding Cagri a little goes a long ways, so you want to start low and slow. I started at .5mg and probably should have started at .25mg. I’m on week 6 and still at .5mg.

Thanks, really appreciate your suggestion since it will be a first for me

 

[headward]

Add elora. $170 on gb right now.

 

[JohannesSweden77]

Everytime I have stalled on Tirz I have uped the dose 2,5 usually after 8 weeks in the same dose. Especially in the lower doses and longer in-between on higher like 8+. Currently on 10 and will be as long as possible before going to 12,5. I have stopped weighing myself every other day because it's a roller coaster right now but as I'm building muscle just staying at current weight not gaining is good. I have a little bit left to my GW. Hope my journey helps yours in some way.

 

[Grogu]

Everytime I have stalled on Tirz I have uped the dose 2,5 usually after 8 weeks in the same dose. Especially in the lower doses and longer in-between on higher like 8+. Currently on 10 and will be as long as possible before going to 12,5. I have stopped weighing myself every other day because it's a roller coaster right now but as I'm building muscle just staying at current weight not gaining is good. I have a little bit left to my GW. Hope my journey helps yours in some way.

This is generally very good advice. So many people are stalling at less than max FDA approved doses and the most effective way to get past the stall can be to titrate up the dose. But the OP said that when going up to 10mg they had uncomfortable side effects. It’s unclear how long ago they pinned 10mg, but it’s probably worth trying again.

 

[JohannesSweden77]

This is generally very good advice. So many people are stalling at less than max FDA approved doses and the most effective way to get past the stall can be to titrate up the dose. But the OP said that when going up to 10mg they had uncomfortable side effects. It’s unclear how long ago they pinned 10mg, but it’s probably worth trying again.

Yes I got some annoying side effects from 10 mg that I didn't have on lower doses and that was diarrhea. Exactly 2 days after taking the dose and the first time was really bad for 2-3 days and the 2nd dose not as bad and now it's not even noticable anymore. I guess it will come back when i up the dose to 12,5 but at least I'm prepared. And who says I have to go up to 12,5 in one go? I can do it gradually.

 

[Devilseye]

This is generally very good advice. So many people are stalling at less than max FDA approved doses and the most effective way to get past the stall can be to titrate up the dose. But the OP said that when going up to 10mg they had uncomfortable side effects. It’s unclear how long ago they pinned 10mg, but it’s probably worth trying again.

I would agree with this. Cagri is not that potent a weight loss tool and I think you’ll have more initial success by titrating up the tirz first going up to 15mg/week.

The fact you had side effects before at 10mg shouldnt deter you from trying again. Good chance your body is more used to tirz now and youll be fine even at 15. Thats what i am doing as well: 15mg tirz and 2.5mg survo every 5-6days. Its done wonders for me.

The survo component is because i developped significant itching on reta and had a rash so i substituted for survo which works fine. My mainstay for appetite control is still tirz. The survo is more for visceral fat loss which is notably tougher to get rid off.

I would hold off on cagri then at least before trying to increase tirz again. Its not that potent and not cost efficient either given tirz pricing. At least thats what im doing and it works great.

 

[DomTirz]

I would agree with this. Cagri is not that potent a weight loss tool and I think you’ll have more initial success by titrating up the tirz first going up to 15mg/week.

The fact you had side effects before at 10mg shouldnt deter you from trying again. Good chance your body is more used to tirz now and youll be fine even at 15. Thats what i am doing as well: 15mg tirz and 2.5mg survo every 5-6days. Its done wonders for me.

The survo component is because i developped significant itching on reta and had a rash so i substituted for survo which works fine. My mainstay for appetite control is still tirz. The survo is more for visceral fat loss which is notably tougher to get rid off.

I would hold off on cagri then at least before trying to increase tirz again. Its not that potent and not cost efficient either given tirz pricing. At least thats what im doing and it works great.

Thanks

 

[Sasquatch]

Hello all, I've been using Tirz since august 2025, have lost to date 42 pounds (male 53yr, SW 230, CW 186, GW 175), currently using 8mg Tirz + 2mg survo; I do exercise 3-4 times a week (weights+cardio). I've been stalled since april, so close to GW but so hard to achieve it. I do appreciate any recomendation.

This is coming from a RS that takes 20mg weekly and has/was stalled forever:
Take a review of your caloric intake. Your body adapts and adapts well. I lost weight(60lbs.) down to my calorically stable instance. Weight loss was so easy, then it wasn't.
I didn't invent the saying: "you can't work out of a bad diet." I don't work out. I grab a shovel or a rake, or a chainsaw. Anyway, check and recheck your intake. Then test by reducing portions. Worked for me.

 

[Grogu]

I would hold off on cagri then at least before trying to increase tirz again. Its not that potent and not cost efficient either given tirz pricing. At least thats what im doing and it works great.

Agreed. OP should definitely titrate up on the tirz first before adding cagri.

But I'm not sure what cagri you're taking, but the cagri I'm taking is potent and cheap. My kits are about $12 a vial for 10mg. I can't ever see using that much in a month. I think I'd be asleep the entire month 😂 or not eat anything for days...

 

[Grogu]

This is coming from a RS that takes 20mg weekly and has/was stalled forever:
Take a review of your caloric intake. Your body adapts and adapts well. I lost weight(60lbs.) down to my calorically stable instance. Weight loss was so easy, then it wasn't.
I didn't invent the saying: "you can't work out of a bad diet." I don't work out. I grab a shovel or a rake, or a chainsaw. Anyway, check and recheck your intake. Then test by reducing portions. Worked for me.

This is the way. The bottom line for weight loss is that calories burned must exceed calories consumed. And since there is no way to accurately measure calories burned, the best you can do in estimate consumption and make sure that consumption is in a deficit.

It sucks tracking calories, but if you don't (at least for a little while) then you have really no idea what you're consuming and what a portion size actually looks like. The good thing is these medications allow you to eat at a deficit with relative ease. But 100% agree with @Sasquatch you can't do enough exercise or workout of a bad diet.

 

[Flash-BCR]

Agreed. OP should definitely titrate up on the tirz first before adding cagri.

But I'm not sure what cagri you're taking, but the cagri I'm taking is potent and cheap. My kits are about $12 a vial for 10mg. I can't ever see using that much in a month. I think I'd be asleep the entire month 😂 or not eat anything for days...

Same...I bought a couple of kits for like $140ea from a US warehouse...had them in a few days. I got them just to put in the 'may need them in the future' toolbox. I see them as a tirz/reta helper to get over a hump if I ever get to that point...I got a couple of kits of sema for the same reason...