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Mrs.Jones1722

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Hey everyone
I have been down the rabbit hole for a week now of researching and I think I have a wrap up of most of this.
I think I’m ready to pull the trigger and switch over from compounding to “grey”
I currently purchase from M***hi ( idk if I can truly name drop.. playing it safe). I have spent 278 for the memberships and meds.
I have started to experience the canceling of my appointments so that I can’t request refills and I don’t have time for that
Through research I see I’m picking up the short stick and riding the short bus. I have woken up and choose peace lol.
I am on Tirz+Niac 4.4 +1/0.5ml
Through my research I have found my switch and understand how to titrate dose and reconstitute
I think I wanna go with Nexaph or Amolist to order
WARNING!!!STUPID QUESTION
how do I get to amolist page?
Would I be wrong to purchase from nexaph.com?

I don’t know what else I’m missing but I’m looking for guidance
 
Update I have quickly read that amopure was rebranded and now called amolist and now is under a new name.
(Back down the hole) I might end up answering my own questions
 
AMO you have to email to order right now.

Alexa is quick and easy. A lot of my stash is from Alexa and I've been very happy with it. You can get cheaper, but you'll be waiting a long time and you risk getting lower quality product that you then have to get replaced by the seller; Alexa is tested up the wazoo and will replace your product if anything is wrong.

Neither is a bad choice. AMO is also tested frequently by stairway to grey and others. I haven't purchased from them myself so I can't give a personal recommendation but they're very popular.
 
chmuse said:
AMO you have to email to order right now.

Alexa is quick and easy. A lot of my stash is from Alexa and I've been very happy with it. You can get cheaper, but you'll be waiting a long time and you risk getting lower quality product that you then have to get replaced by the seller; Alexa is tested up the wazoo and will replace your product if anything is wrong.

Neither is a bad choice. AMO is also tested frequently by stairway to grey and others. I haven't purchased from them myself so I can't give a personal recommendation but they're very popular.
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I was hoping you commented your post have mainly had me in a chokehold of information. I feel full of pumped info from them.

Yeah as I type I’m still reading the forum.
I’m glad you mentioned the testing part about Alexa because I looks like testing can get pricey but I understand the need for it.

I think now I need to decide which tirz to get from them that would be a smooth transition
 
Mrs.Jones1722 said:
I was hoping you commented your post have mainly had me in a chokehold of information. I feel full of pumped info from them.

Yeah as I type I’m still reading the forum.
I’m glad you mentioned the testing part about Alexa because I looks like testing can get pricey but I understand the need for it.

I think now I need to decide which tirz to get from them that would be a smooth transition
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No no, don't take my word as gospel. I'm just very very wordy and overly helpful for someone who doesn't really know all that much. Continue your research! It's very important to know what you're doing before embarking on this journey. ❤️

Look at the vendor section, and then search each vendor to see what people have to say about them. If it's a three letter abbreviation, add a * to the end of your search (ie: sry*) to trick the search into working. If you're not comfortable with crypto currency, consider searching for vendors that accept PayPal or Alibaba pay!
 
chmuse said:
No no, don't take my word as gospel. I'm just very very wordy and overly helpful for someone who doesn't really know all that much. Continue your research! It's very important to know what you're doing before embarking on this journey. ❤️

Look at the vendor section, and then search each vendor to see what people have to say about them. If it's a three letter abbreviation, add a * to the end of your search (ie: sry*) to trick the search into working. If you're not comfortable with crypto currency, consider searching for vendors that accept PayPal or Alibaba pay!
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Oh stop it your very helpful

Not comfortable with crypto at all

And yes learning how to maneuver the search bar is another task for another day.
 
Jtjones416 said:
Just ordered Nexaph Tirz 15 mg that's back in stock!
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Me too! I had just bought reta because they were out of tirz, and on a whim I went out there and it was back and yay!!! I like the 15mg because I can reconstitute 10 BAC and inject less. I also stack with reta but I will probably go straight to reta next year for maintenance.
 
DanceLabRat said:
Me too! I had just bought reta because they were out of tirz, and on a whim I went out there and it was back and yay!!! I like the 15mg because I can reconstitute 10 BAC and inject less. I also stack with reta but I will probably go straight to reta next year for maintenance.
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So all though I’m only on 5mg right now I should buy higher mg (10mg or 15mg) and reconstitute it with higher BAC
 
Mrs.Jones1722 said:
That’s where I got this from and I can understand they are vendors but do they mean more than that
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They do, and for safety's sake (imitator scams), their full names should really be spelled out on every thread. But they're not, so I suggest you start your own private spreadsheet and keep track.

Generally speaking, the first letter is where they are geographically in China. Better-known places like Shanghai and Tsingdao, and lots of places that remind me that China has many megacities I've never heard of.
 
Mrs.Jones1722 said:
Hey everyone
I have been down the rabbit hole for a week now of researching and I think I have a wrap up of most of this.
I think I’m ready to pull the trigger and switch over from compounding to “grey”
I currently purchase from M***hi ( idk if I can truly name drop.. playing it safe). I have spent 278 for the memberships and meds.
I have started to experience the canceling of my appointments so that I can’t request refills and I don’t have time for that
Through research I see I’m picking up the short stick and riding the short bus. I have woken up and choose peace lol.
I am on Tirz+Niac 4.4 +1/0.5ml
Through my research I have found my switch and understand how to titrate dose and reconstitute
I think I wanna go with Nexaph or Amolist to order
WARNING!!!STUPID QUESTION
how do I get to amolist page?
Would I be wrong to purchase from nexaph.com?

I don’t know what else I’m missing but I’m looking for guidance
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Hello and welcome Mrs Jones. I spent hours researching greyTriz and vendors before ordering. There is a lot of great info on this forum. I ended up ordering from Nexaph and have been happy with them. I’ve placed 4 different orders and have been impressed with both the product and ease of ordering. They are a bit more expensive than some of the others but the ease of ordering and speed of shipping is worth it to me.
 
Mrs.Jones1722 said:
Oh stop it your very helpful

Not comfortable with crypto at all

And yes learning how to maneuver the search bar is another task for another day.
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I’m not comfortable with crypto either. It doesn’t give me any safety net if I don’t get what I ordered.
 
christa_channing said:
I’m not comfortable with crypto either. It doesn’t give me any safety net if I don’t get what I ordered.
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You have no safety net when you buy on the grey market, except the integrity/competence of the vendor and the ability to call out their behavior on forums like this. And mostly doing a lot of reading before deciding on a vendor.

You cannot/should not file complaints or chargebacks against vendors, because (a) PayPal, credit cards etc. will permanently close your account (and block future ones) for trying to buy from underground sellers, and (b) they will also close the vendor accounts, which ruins it for everyone else when vendors in general revert to crypto-only.

The alternative is to buy name-brand pens from a pharmacy for $1,000 a month (or your co-pay). The risk that you'll have to walk away altogether from lost funds usually pencils out well for grey vs brand-name.
 
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Mrs.Jones1722 said:
Would I be wrong to purchase from nexaph.com?
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Happily "wrong" right here. The entire purchasing, testing, and overall experience has been stellar purchasing from Nexaph. I was also part of a LARGE buyer-paid 3rd party test of their late January T30. We tested ELEVEN vials. Tests matched the vendor test and the vendor-paid, buyer-supplied tests. Rockstar experience.
 
indolent said:
They do, and for safety's sake (imitator scams), their full names should really be spelled out on every thread. But they're not, so I suggest you start your own private spreadsheet and keep track.

Generally speaking, the first letter is where they are geographically in China. Better-known places like Shanghai and Tsingdao, and lots of places that remind me that China has many megacities I've never heard of.
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Thank you will do great idea to help me narrow down my choices when I do decide to go foreign
 
christa_channing said:
I’m not comfortable with crypto either. It doesn’t give me any safety net if I don’t get what I ordered.
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Neither do the other options. You might get lucky if the paypal or credit card chargeback investigator isn't paying attention, or you might get your account closed.

We call it the grey market because the legality is in the grey area since these aren't controlled substances, but the reality is you are far beyond consumer protection laws with all of this. Once you pay, that money is gone, and you're crossing your fingers you get something in return. Turns out instead of tirz you injected anthrax? Your surviving family isn't going to have much luck going after some drug dealers in China.

You can save a ton of money ordering from these vendors, but there's no such thing as a free lunch - in exchange for the lower prices, you give up on a lot of the safety measures that are in place for more legitimate forms of commerce.
 
Jolly Molly said:
Happily "wrong" right here. The entire purchasing, testing, and overall experience has been stellar purchasing from Nexaph. I was also part of a LARGE buyer-paid 3rd party test of their late January T30. We tested ELEVEN vials. Tests matched the vendor test and the vendor-paid, buyer-supplied tests. Rockstar experience.
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Mirrors my experience working with him as well. Definitely one of my open options for pep purchases in the future.
 
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