BooneDonk
GLP-1 Apprentice
I’ll preface this with I am an actual “scientist” with papers from a college to back it up (lol) and gainfully employed in the “chemical” business. I use lab data to sell millions of dollars in products and services every year and back that up with monitoring data for my customers.
This whole testing thing is a crap shoot if we are being honest. Even for completely US made/packaged/tested/consumed products. Think about it like this:
I make 10,000gals of chemical in a batch to sell in oilfield. I take one 6oz bottle from somewhere in the blend and perform specific gravity, color, pH, even performance testing in the lab and that’s what my entire batch is based on. We are talking about less than a thimble full of the peptide “batch” to base the whole run of 20 kilos of product that is bottled and lyophilized to be shipped around the world and used for research. The testing destroys the sample submitted so who knows? It is, however, the best methods we have.
Cap color? Maybe. Batch number? It’s what the sellers say it is. They don’t want to mess up their business model either, but I doubt they throw the last 8 vials away because a new batch showed up. They add two and make a make a kit if the caps match.
I’m not saying don’t read tests and base reconstitution and dosing off the information. It’s frankly dangerous to not, reckless is putting it mildly. Do the suppliers have an interest in the products matching what is advertised/sold? Absolutely. Should we do our own testing, group or individual? Absolutely. Trust, but verify. Hold them to task! My customers do it all the time to my product and it better perform to standards.
Keeping these sorts of forums open so we consumers have a place to cuss and discuss is value far beyond what @ZippityDooDah currently lays out financially. Thanks to those that came before us and figured this all out. There’s a reason why, it wasn’t just made up. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
This whole testing thing is a crap shoot if we are being honest. Even for completely US made/packaged/tested/consumed products. Think about it like this:
I make 10,000gals of chemical in a batch to sell in oilfield. I take one 6oz bottle from somewhere in the blend and perform specific gravity, color, pH, even performance testing in the lab and that’s what my entire batch is based on. We are talking about less than a thimble full of the peptide “batch” to base the whole run of 20 kilos of product that is bottled and lyophilized to be shipped around the world and used for research. The testing destroys the sample submitted so who knows? It is, however, the best methods we have.
Cap color? Maybe. Batch number? It’s what the sellers say it is. They don’t want to mess up their business model either, but I doubt they throw the last 8 vials away because a new batch showed up. They add two and make a make a kit if the caps match.
I’m not saying don’t read tests and base reconstitution and dosing off the information. It’s frankly dangerous to not, reckless is putting it mildly. Do the suppliers have an interest in the products matching what is advertised/sold? Absolutely. Should we do our own testing, group or individual? Absolutely. Trust, but verify. Hold them to task! My customers do it all the time to my product and it better perform to standards.
Keeping these sorts of forums open so we consumers have a place to cuss and discuss is value far beyond what @ZippityDooDah currently lays out financially. Thanks to those that came before us and figured this all out. There’s a reason why, it wasn’t just made up. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
