Tirz Freezing/Defrosting

[Labcat]

Recommended to not refreeze due to risk of breaking the seal and allowing air/moisture in. Should be fine in frigo for 6+ months if lyophilized (Studies are all over the place on this). I would not travel by air with an ice pack of any sort or a vial with 'white powder'.

I travel with reconstituted Tirz, enough to cover my trip. Good for 21 days at room temperature.

Hi! Where do I read up on Jano's experience with peptides, is it on the actual testing site somewhere??

I was going to ask this, too, but instead can I ask you what you mean by “the actual testing site”? (Nothing on janoshik’s website that I could find.) (sorry about newbie question)

 

[Labcat]

That would be a big no for me. For TSA, people will use reusable pens, normally sold for insulin, that are filled with the peptide solution in the pen's cartridge.

Clever idea. Were you able to you get one without a prescription? I see something called a Go pen, but it doesn’t seem to offer availability in the US. And an In Pen, which appears to be so $$$ they don’t list a price.

 

[Calm Logic]

TSA doesn't care at all about drugs or drug enforcement. For international flights, you can worry about customs in another country, but it seems fine most of the time. Worse come to worse, it is dumped.

So any unlabeled reusable pen would be fine, especially for just domestic flights. And TSA doesn't seem to have problems with reconned vials either. If they ask, you can just say it's insulin.

But I rarely travel, so I just base this on what others have said. There are a lot of well-traveled people here. And I don't remember anyone posting an issue.

 

[zpped]

What about getting past airport security with vials with white powder in them... how you guys explain that?

I'll let you know if they ever ask. Seriously, airport security is looking for weapons not drugs.

I regularly travel with ziplock bags full of creatine and protein powders vials of both reconned and unreconned peptides, and (less advisable) actual scheduled drugs like testosterone.

 

[mlke6]

Wait, wait, wait.. you reconstitute then freeze??????

when I first started I accidentally froze my first reconstituted sema vial several times. Worked fine in the feels department.

 

[Calm Logic]

Clever idea. Were you able to you get one without a prescription? I see something called a Go pen, but it doesn’t seem to offer availability in the US. And an In Pen, which appears to be so $$$ they don’t list a price.

Some other points, that may not be applicable:

1) GLPs can take the restaurant fun out of a vacation (or GI symptoms can distract from a business trip)
2) To some degree, GLPs are in your system for weeks
3) For international travel, looking nervous is the worst thing possible at customs.

 

[Calm Logic]

Instead of freezing after recon, for math lovers (or for Nimbot lovers to relabel the same vial):

What if you recon all 60mg with 1ml of bac, draw some into another vial, and every 4 weeks, add a bit of FRESH bac into the original vial, to rejuvenate the benzyl. A pain to keep track off but should keep the bacteria count low as the stopper is only pokes a few times. Maybe good for 3-4 months? But really, why not just buy another 10 or 20mg kit and keep this one for later.

 

[Labcat]

when I first started I accidentally froze my first reconstituted sema vial several times. Worked fine in the feels department.

Thank you 🙏🏼 Valuable info! I am finding so many of the fearful things I learned are not so strict.
I’m a newbie… so does everyone always recon with BAC?

 

[skeptick]

Unreconstituted Tirz is very hardy. Don't inconvenience yourself too much.

What Indolent said...

 

[skeptick]

Thank you 🙏🏼 Valuable info! I am finding so many of the fearful things I learned are not so strict.
I’m a newbie… so does everyone always recon with BAC?

Hospira BAC is by far the most recommended. Lots of warnings to stay away from EBAY/Amazon off brands, Scroll down to "Vendor Connection". Injection Shop has Hospira BAC for reasonable price. Their photo doesn't look like Hospira but many others on this forum say it's the good stuff. Dilutant Solution is what you want. .09 alcohol. Not salt or sterile water. FYI, I've never shopped there but i would. TIP---Store Hospira BAC in a cool dark place. Does not need to be frozen or kept in fridge per Hospira litature....

 

[Labcat]

What Indolent said...

Absolutely true. I just have a separate reason I’m exploring this, which I’ll post about, also am trying to sort thru old posts first.

Hey, my navigating sucks. Can anyone help a forum newbie out, is there any way to back up to a previous page I was at, other than the back arrow going back up the structure of the site? I want to go down all the branches of the tree, but I usually have to jump to the root if I follow a link out!

 

[indolent]

Absolutely true. I just have a separate reason I’m exploring this, which I’ll post about, also am trying to sort thru old posts first.

Hey, my navigating sucks. Can anyone help a forum newbie out, is there any way to back up to a previous page I was at, other than the back arrow going back up the structure of the site? I want to go down all the branches of the tree, but I usually have to jump to the root if I follow a link out!

If you're asking about backing out within a discussion, look within the quoted post for the amber up-arrow in a circle.

You can also use the page numbers at the bottom if it's something you recall from memory.

If you've already commented on something, you can do Forums-->Find Threads...Threads with your posts.

And, of course, the search magnifying glass is a great tool

 

[Labcat]

If you're asking about backing out within a discussion, look within the quoted post for the amber up-arrow in a circle.

You can also use the page numbers at the bottom if it's something you recall from memory.

If you've already commented on something, you can do Forums-->Find Threads...Threads with your posts.

And, of course, the search magnifying glass is a great tool

Thanks, great tips!
I saw threads with my posts - that’s a good use hah — peeing on it to mark it!
Maybe bc I’m on the app, there’s no page numbers. I’ll keep looking around though
And yes, search is great! In my quest to resd what’s here, I was just hoping for a more efficient way to completely traverse the tree of all posts or all relevant posts without so many touches or having to remember how to get back to the last branch point. Maybe what I need is a pep that improves my working memory.
Appreciate your taking the time to help me out!

 

[indolent]

Thanks, great tips!
I saw threads with my posts - that’s a good use hah — peeing on it to mark it!
Maybe bc I’m on the app, there’s no page numbers. I’ll keep looking around though
And yes, search is great! In my quest to resd what’s here, I was just hoping for a more efficient way to completely traverse the tree of all posts or all relevant posts without so many touches or having to remember how to get back to the last branch point. Maybe what I need is a pep that improves my working memory.
Appreciate your taking the time to help me out!

And the homepage has the "table of contents" for all the forum categories and subcategories. Maybe that's what you meant by "tree".

 

[indolent]

can I ask you what you mean by “the actual testing site”?

Probably what was meant was the super-secret non-existent testing group-testing server. It goes by its four initials. And has a strict fight-club rules policy regarding its non-dangerous findings, for better and worse.

A good route to that (many jump-hoops to join) is by joining Peppys Research Community (which itself requires invitation, has a few hoops for higher access and a seasoning period/process, after which full access can be requested)

 

[Labcat]

And the homepage has the "table of contents" for all the forum categories and subcategories. Maybe that's what you meant by "tree".

Yes! And yes! You’re very insightful with my weird and incomplete explanations. I just often have to go directly to the TOC and work my way down that from the top, insteas of backing out just enough to go down the next thing on the list! It overtaxes my memory lol. I wish it would just remember where I’ve already traversed in the structure.

 

[zpped]

Probably what was meant was the super-secret non-existent testing group-testing server. It goes by its four initials. And has a strict fight-club rules policy regarding its non-dangerous findings, for better and worse.

A good route to that (many jump-hoops to join) is by joining Peppys Research Community (which itself requires invitation, has a few hoops for higher access and a seasoning period/process, after which full access can be requested)

you make that sound way harder than search the forum posts for a peppys invite (or message goodkitty) and then follow the instructions there (which just involves proving that you read some documents)

also ptds results aren't super secret. we talk about them all the time.



For everyone else, we've tested a bunch of frozen peptides. I personally wouldn't hesitate using tirz or reta that has been frozen once if I needed to.

 

[Labcat]

you make that sound way harder than search the forum posts for a peppys invite (or message goodkitty) and then follow the instructions there (which just involves proving that you read some documents)

also ptds results aren't super secret. we talk about them all the time.

Can someone tell me what ptds stands for? I have searched… and failed

 

[zpped]

Can someone tell me what ptds stands for? I have searched… and failed

You're better off getting that answer in Peppys. ptds tries to keep a low profile so blasting their name on an open forum feels out of line with that. https://glp1forum.com/threads/🌶️-peppys-info-and-how-to-join-🌶️.28/

 

[MeedzMoar]

TSA doesn't care at all about drugs or drug enforcement. For international flights, you can worry about customs in another country, but it seems fine most of the time. Worse come to worse, it is dumped.

So any unlabeled reusable pen would be fine, especially for just domestic flights. And TSA doesn't seem to have problems with reconned vials either. If they ask, you can just say it's insulin.

But I rarely travel, so I just base this on what others have said. There are a lot of well-traveled people here. And I don't remember anyone posting an issue.

I just traveled- domestic. TSA stopped me both ways. Departing, because I (for some unknown reason) had hand warmers in my exterior pocket. On the return because I had (allowable) fresh ground coffee in my carry-on.

Neither search was for syringes or any of the recon or powder products.

BOTH TSA agents told me they know what they are looking for and when they cannot tell what something is, they check. On my return flight I specifically mentioned the remaining syringes (I am diabetic but not insulin dependent so I had cover) in my travel kit just to see what they'd say. He said they can see it and are trained to identify it because people need injectable medications. He didn't say they don't ever stop for it. He just said they expect it.

 

[Calm Logic]

Yeah, I haven't heard of any issues with TSA since they can assume reconned vials are insulin. Syringes are usually OTC products anyway, from pharmacies to feed stores. Did they see any grey-market vials?

 

[MeedzMoar]

Yes. I had a vial of powder cagri and a recon glp-1. Neither are labeled. They come without from my vendor and I've been keeping track of them by the color of the reusable covers.

Do you label yours?

(Edited for typo)

 

[HZM808]

I have four vials of reconned Tirz that have a BUD of 9/2025. I am at my goal weight and used one of those vials to get there. I still have enough in that first vial to , idk, maybe get to the full year mark and it still works as well as day one, I have upped my dose after six months by .25 and now held steady there. I've kept them in the fridge this whole time and everything seems to be going well.

My freezer, imo, sucks. It's just normal freezer but I feel the food doesn't last as well in it as it did in previous freezer. Fridge is fine n I keep the Tirz in the coldest part. I'm very indecisive...part of me feels, meh, been fine so far, just leave it in the fridge. But, wait, maybe I should freeze it!

I ate a 5 year old steak that I found in my mom's regular freezer, in the grocery store packaging and thought it was just fine. Gave my daughter a ten year old skin cream that she claims burned her skin, but I think she was just being dramatic. BUDs don't mean all that much to me but I really never expected this stuff to still be with me after all this time! It was a panic buy from my funct. med. PCP, so I paid a pretty penny for this stuff. The other peps I have in puck form still are in a thermos in said, shitty, freezer.

@indolent will surely say freeze it but idk, should I just keep on keeping on in the fridge....or freeze it? Or just keep wondering about it for another month or so, bc, honestly, that's where I really shine.

 

[MeedzMoar]

I suffer analysis paralysis in the world of pep testing. I feel your pain while I giggle in recognition of the affliction.

I'm no expert but why not do what's working for you?