Something being decriminalized means very little for the safety profile of use. It's perfect legal to eat and drink nothing but hamburgers and soda, but it's still awful for you. Alcohol is legal in most of the world, heavy use of it is still awful for you.Oh for fuck sake we’re all a bunch of fat fucks buying illegal weight loss peptides so do get off your high horse.
None of us can talk.
Just for reference though, steroids are being decriminalised on user level in a lot of countries.
I don’t see that ever happening with patented weight loss drugs protected under the umbrella of billion dollar pharmaceutical companies.
So your own personal opinion (because that’s all it is) that by technical definition steroid users are abusing medications but people taking illegal non prescribed weight loss meds aren’t is fucking hilarious
Abusing a drug, again, in the medical/research context, refers to using something outside of medical supervision and in doses beyond the therapeutic dose. So yes, some of us are abusing peptides. But AAS users in this context are almost universally abusing them, as the therapeutic doses for drugs like test, deca, etc., are well below the levels used by people using them for their effects in muscle growth.
You don't have to spend long on meso to find a post of yet another person not getting bloods, downplaying their high blood pressure, etc. Or pretending their BP isn't an issue because telmisartan has gotten it under control. Professional bodybuilding and AAS use are highly correlated with an increase in mortality. It's hard to prove causality, but there is enough data around it and a plethora of mechanisms that explain potential causes, so the idea that gym bros are pinnacles of health despite their AAS usage is not an idea that stands on particularly firm ground.As another member pointed out - gym bros do focus on there own health intently with regularly bloods, carefully chosen diets, bucket loads of exercise.
If you really want to compare the two I think we come off way second best as a bunch of overweight people buying white powder from China and injecting it into ourselves in a desperate effort to stop stuffing our faces
And lastly yes I agree the roid rage term is not correct. It’s just a term made up at some point in the past.
Test Primo Mast EQ Anavar Dbol don’t cause anger. Rather the opposite. They tend to give people calmer demeanours.
Tren had bit of reputation for making people lose their shit. But the same as alcohol makes an angry person an angry drunk. Same for tren. Won’t make a normal person start throwing cats at people or anything. You watching too many movies.
Eg if you took tren it would prob just turn you into a hyper Karen - a Karen on roids so to speak.
Are you on tren ?
Dead Bodybuilders Speaking from the Heart: An Analysis of Autopsy Reports of Bodybuilders That Died Prematurely - PMC
This study analyzed publicly available autopsy reports of male bodybuilders under the age of 50 who reportedly died from cardiovascular-related events. A general Google search with the terms “dead bodybuilders” was performed on 10 February 2022. Six ...
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Morbidity and mortality in patients testing positively for the presence of anabolic androgenic steroids in connection with receiving medical care. A controlled retrospective cohort study - PubMed
Observations by health-care professionals suggest that the use of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) may be associated with lethal complications, but this has not yet been confirmed by controlled epidemiological studies. Here, we investigated the diagnoses (in the Swedish patient care records)...
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Health consequences of androgenic anabolic steroid use - PubMed
Androgenic anabolic steroid users have an increased risk of dying and significantly more hospital admissions than their nonuser peers. Side effects of AAS and their metabolites were highly prevalent. Given the high rate of androgenic anabolic steroid abuse, these side effects are of public...
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Anabolic steroids and cardiovascular risk: A national population-based cohort study - PubMed
Non-therapeutic exposure to AAS appears to be an independent risk factor for cardiovascular morbidity and premature death.
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Roid rage is an unscientific term that does little to explain the complex way AAS use impacts the brain, but the idea that they have no neurological impact is simply false (see the studies I linked a few pages back), and for many users, it 100% manifests as increased aggression and anger. Many AAS users have specifically spoken about it, such as Dr. Mike Israetel. The idea that some of these AAS just make you calm and others are the real monster maker is not something we have any specific evidence for in the literature. Some people might experience no or minimal impact. Others might experience significant impact.
Look: No one here is saying to not use AAS. This community in general seems to very much fall in line with the idea that adults should be able to inject what they want in their body and make their own decisions about the trade offs of doing so.
But let's not act like AAS use is all sunshine and daffodils. There's not a free lunch, you're not getting to pack on additional muscle at significantly enhanced rates without negative impacts to your health, and in a statistically significant portion of AAS users, those impacts include increased anger and aggression. Underplaying the medical risks of AAS usage only encourages irresponsible use of them by leaving the users uninformed.
