TRIZ: What's the average $/mg, shipping & ETA?

Forums are supposed to thrive as community-driven spaces where people share knowledge and help each other. Yet this kind of gatekeeping undermines that purpose entirely. Instead of fostering discussion, it creates unnecessary barriers that discourage newcomers—whether through elitism, dismissiveness, or overly rigid rules. The irony is that this attitude doesn’t 'protect' the forum; it just makes it less welcoming and ultimately less active. Whether I personally stick around or not is irrelevant—the bigger issue is how this approach harms the community as a whole. If the goal is to sustain engagement, alienating potential contributors is the worst way to do it.
I get where you are coming from and agree on the premise, and much of the application, but with some qualifiers. The founder of the forum had a vision for the promotion of self sufficiency and good content, whish is representative in this post he made about a year ago: He preferred subtle bread crumbs to spoon feeding, from what I understand. I think the question is: are we hoping to have more in depth content or very basic questions?

I think the consensus of those who have built and developed this forum is that the latter is accurate and it was never designed an introductory step.
In fact for several months last year all of the new questions were referred to STG, as that forum was the "Stairway" and this was hopefully more intermediate to advanced content. I think assuming it is elitism or gatekeeping is not an accurate lens to see this through, it is simply a graduated course that hopefully allows for all levels of knowledge without the extreme basics of bargain hunting and very pedestrian questions.

I do compliment you on your recent handling of this controversial philosophy and enjoy the debate it can provoke when discussed intelligently.



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I get where you are coming from and agree on the premise, and much of the application, but with some qualifiers. The founder of the forum had a vision for the promotion of self sufficiency and good content, whish is representative in this post he made about a year ago: He preferred subtle bread crumbs to spoon feeding, from what I understand. I think the question is: are we hoping to have more in depth content or very basic questions?

I think the consensus of those who have built and developed this forum is that the latter is accurate and it was never designed an introductory step.
In fact for several months last year all of the new questions were referred to STG, as that forum was the "Stairway" and this was hopefully more intermediate to advanced content. I think assuming it is elitism or gatekeeping is not an accurate lens to see this through, it is simply a graduated course that hopefully allows for all levels of knowledge without the extreme basics of bargain hunting and very pedestrian questions.

I do compliment you on your recent handling of this controversial philosophy and enjoy the debate it can provoke when discussed intelligently.



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A forum's founder may set the initial vision, but as it grows, it becomes a shared space. While some communities enforce strict norms to maintain quality, disrespecting newcomers often backfires—driving away users and stagnating growth. Transparent rules, consistent moderation, snd feedback channels let communities evolve without losing identity.

We’re going round in circles with this now so I will bow out and leave it here.

Have a great day 👌🏼
 
I too would love the info please
Ivy, I have been asked to not share this info until the person asking has posted an intro post. Tell us all a little about you and how you got here. What do you want to get out of this forum?... besides a source for whatever you seek. Let's start with what are you taking now, and what do you want to get into?

This is how we keep the community growing.
 
In fairness, many of these domestic to the US sellers have asked on other forums NOT to have their links shared everywhere publicly, for their own viability. @Peloma was being helpful, not creepy 🙂
I hope the info is shared helped, pony. That's what most of us here want to do. Help and be helped so we can do so for others.

❤️
 
you can buy a kit of T20 which is 10 vials, for around $110, sometimes $100 from Chinese vendors. You can buy a vial of T20, 20 mg, for around $75 from a trusted US vendor. .
As for the going price of Tirz, $0.50/mg would be the most I pay these days. I think $0.41 is the lowest I've seen recently.

edit: that was T30, I just looked at my inventory sheet and remembered I payed $0.36 for T100
I feel like the t100 is just to show off. I still want a kit though.
 
I feel like the t100 is just to show off. I still want a kit though.
Tirz is the cockroach of the peptide world, it's extremely hardy and durable. But if you're at 15mg that is just over 6 weeks per vial. Not to mention even splitting the vial between a few people.
 
Please stop posting publicly asking someone to DM you. You realize you can just DM them yourself and skip the part where you are asking someone who is going to do something for you to do extra work in a public forum for no reason?
 
Ivy, I have been asked to not share this info until the person asking has posted an intro post. Tell us all a little about you and how you got here. What do you want to get out of this forum?... besides a source for whatever you seek. Let's start with what are you taking now, and what do you want to get into?

This is how we keep the community growing.
I followed all the breadcrumbs tbh through reddit and telegram and discord. I'm currently taking tirz and aod. It's just letting a little too pricey for me I want something a little more light on my pocket. I have shopped with two vendors. I would like to keep my options open. That is the honest truth.
 

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