TRIZ: What's the average $/mg, shipping & ETA?

RockyRach7224 said:
Typically research is what brought a lot of us here to this forum my guy/girl! If I had to guess they’re looking for advice on trustworthy vendors for the stuff this forum is named after. Thankfully 99% of the replies are seem to be super helpful. I love to see the non gatekeeping it’s refreshing
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There's at least 5 posts like this made in the last 2 weeks you tell me people found this place by searching, but then can't see these already existing posts?
 
scarywood75 said:
you tell me people found this place by searching, but then can't see these already existing posts?
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And in this same thread was the answer to the question.

I love to give out links like Halloween candy, but in this case the vendor has already switched websites before for some reason (?). Maybe the vendor should rethink the situation (one way or the other). I don't know.
 
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RockyRach7224 said:
Typically research is what brought a lot of us here to this forum my guy/girl! If I had to guess they’re looking for advice on trustworthy vendors for the stuff this forum is named after. Thankfully 99% of the replies are seem to be super helpful. I love to see the non gatekeeping it’s refreshing
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"Non gatekeeping" will ruin everything for everyone. There's a reason for the fucking gate
 
General Lee said:
It’s just shame the reason seems to be members with a few months on here acting like they have a superiority complex over “noobs”.
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Mostly it's about educating the folks who come in here and don't read the guidelines or expectations and just want to know "where can I get cheap Mounjaro..." like this is a search engine. The "gatekeeping" is to protect the suppliers from being targeted by the the three letter agents that are on this forum...

Also some of us are members and moderators on other forums, and understand what it takes to keep the knowledge flowing... if it doesn't suit some folks, then this is not the place for them.
 
And it's not that hard if one is motivated. One can buy a recon kit from Peptide Test or Underground Supply and a kit of vials from Nexaph or, if they are familiar with crypto, SRY's US Warehouse (or wherever). Or they can follow the breadcrumbs to just buy a single vial at a decent price.

While the stuff is on the way, they can watch Youtube videos and play with peptide calculators. And they can use ChatGPT or Google Gemini to double check and/or post here. You can even ask pharmacists at JustAnswer.com.

If it is too overwhelming or they want to take their time, they can just buy time using the most affordable compounding pharmacy, like $499 for tirz for the first three months: https://www.brellohealth.com/

But I'm glad I had a large enough supply from compounding pharmacies when I first learned about gray so I could take my time, without being tempted into rushing into things.
 
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Peloma said:
I slid into your dm's
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Hi, do you know what might be the issue with ordering from the site? I’ve filled out everything at checkout correctly but keep getting order unsuccessful emails/message at checkout. I’ve tried different methods of payment and they all get declined. Is this normal? Thanks
 
Blindturkey said:
Hi, do you know what might be the issue with ordering from the site? I’ve filled out everything at checkout correctly but keep getting order unsuccessful emails/message at checkout. I’ve tried different methods of payment and they all get declined. Is this normal? Thanks
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This is exactly what I have been taking about...
 
Man you put so much effort into creating a fuss about it. If you aren’t willing to help them then ignore them. They’ll learn themselves eventually. The info is here regardless of you sending them to it or not. It just oozes gatekeeping superiority complex. An option on the forum I used to mod on was newcomers needed a minimum post count before being able to post in certain sections. Maybe a minimum amount of days before they could come out the Introduce Yourself section would work? I just don’t get the point in replying to every newcomer with the same “learn it for yourself” responses. It would be the same amount of effort to say “here you go”.
 
General Lee said:
It’s just shame the reason seems to be members with a few months on here acting like they have a superiority complex over “noobs”.
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General Lee said:
Man you put so much effort into creating a fuss about it. If you aren’t willing to help them then ignore them. They’ll learn themselves eventually. The info is here regardless of you sending them to it or not. It just oozes gatekeeping superiority complex. An option on the forum I used to mod on was newcomers needed a minimum post count before being able to post in certain sections. Maybe a minimum amount of days before they could come out the Introduce Yourself section would work? I just don’t get the point in replying to every newcomer with the same “learn it for yourself” responses. It would be the same amount of effort to say “here you go”.
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What? You're really caught up on this "superiority complex" straw man after being here for all of what - two weeks?

Previous discretion is the reason you're able to be here.
 
peptideusername said:
What? You're really caught up on this "superiority complex" straw man after being here for all of what - two weeks?

Previous discretion is the reason you're able to be here.
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Ah and there it is again….The forum isn’t even old enough for your “yOuVe bEeN hErE 2 wEeKs” comments but yeah in 2 weeks I can judge who’s who fairly accurately since it’s the same group of people with this same issue that never seem to let it lie. Drop the ego it’s embarrassing.
Peloma said:
He doesn't realize how many servers have been nuked because of a lack of gatekeeping. Like protecting something from harm is a bad thing.
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Again…If you aren’t willing to help newcomers then move on and ignore them. I don’t know how to make this any clearer for you. 🤷
 
General Lee said:
Ah and there it is again….The forum isn’t even old enough for your “yOuVe bEeN hErE 2 wEeKs” comments but yeah in 2 weeks I can judge who’s who fairly accurately since it’s the same group of people with this same issue that never seem to let it lie. Drop the ego it’s embarrassing.

Again…If you aren’t willing to help newcomers then move on and ignore them. I don’t know how to make this any clearer for you. 🤷
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Follow your own advice and ignore those that don't align with you. Don't look for an opportunity to show off that high horse of kighthood...

Do me a favor and don't engage me again... just so I can see what it's like to ignore someone.
 
Peloma said:
Follow your own advice and ignore those that don't align with you. Don't look for an opportunity to show off that high horse of knighthood.
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Oh the irony 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Peloma said:
Do me a favor and don't engage me again... just so I can see what it's like to ignore someone.
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Absolutely no problem at all. I tend not to read your post anyway but you seem to be absolutely fucking everywhere.

Have a nice day 👋🏽
 
General Lee said:
An option on the forum I used to mod on was newcomers needed a minimum post count before being able to post in certain sections.
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There is a certain section of the forums, Research Lab, for that sort of discussion.. Mods can monitor it.

This certain section, General Discussion, is not where those discussions belong, and everyone familiar with the multitudinous risks of the grey market ecosystem can and should shut them down. Including not DMing details to people.
 
indolent said:
There is a certain section of the forums, Research Lab, for that sort of discussion.. Mods can monitor it.

This certain section, General Discussion, is not where those discussions belong, and everyone familiar with the multitudinous risks of the grey market ecosystem can and should shut them down. Including not DMing details to people.
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That’s a forum issue in that case. I said in a previous post there could be safeguards put in place. It’s not for members to sort out.
 
General Lee said:
That’s a forum issue in that case. I said in a previous post there could be safeguards put in place. It’s not for members to sort out.
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If you dislike or disagree with the way things are handled, I would suggest you handle them in the way you prefer as to provide contrast and influence the culture. This would be an effective way of helping mold the community to what you seem to believe it should be.

Can you imagine coming to a party at someone's house, telling them their house is a pigpen, the furniture is ugly, and their friends are jerks.. but hey! I will eat their food and drink their beer.
That is what you sound like. Please consider, that is the perception you are giving.

I think you mean well, but you may need to polish your strategy.
 
Well you guys have absolutely cleared things up. It’s your forum and not a public forum for everyone. “your house” “members only club”

Got it 👌🏼
I’ll definitely not be paying to register in that case.
 
General Lee said:
I just don’t get the point in replying to every newcomer with the same “learn it for yourself” responses. It would be the same amount of effort to say “here you go”.
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“Here you go” opens uninformed users up to being exploited by shills and scammers in the context of the biggest gold rush of our generation, which is taking place completely underground. Encouraging new users to become informed instead of saying “you don’t know me or anything about the landscape but you should buy from x vendor” serves to protect them. If you’ve been around for a minute you’ll be well aware of the amount of astroturfing that goes on in these spaces. Not to mention the harm that can result from getting injectable underground lab meds into users’ hands before they have a basic understanding of how to reconstitute and dose safely, which again requires a level of self-sufficiency that ought to be encouraged.

The landscape is constantly changing, there is a lot of bad information out there (both just because so many know-it-alls like to share their uninformed opinions and because bad actors are trying to extract money from you), and a vendor that is good yesterday may not be good today. A lot of harm can result, both financial and physical. Users need to be responsible for themselves in such an environment.
 
General Lee said:
I’ll definitely not be paying to register in that case.
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Just to clarify for anyone who comes across this, there is no fee for anything at all on this forum. It is funded entirely by the site owner with no compensation. I’m not sure if this is meant to be a joke or if @General Lee is misinformed, but I want to be very clear on this point.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
“Here you go” opens uninformed users up to being exploited by shills and scammers in the context of the biggest gold rush of our generation, which is taking place completely underground. Encouraging new users to become informed instead of saying “you don’t know me or anything about the landscape but you should buy from x vendor” serves to protect them. If you’ve been around for a minute you’ll be well aware of the amount of astroturfing that goes on in these spaces. Not to mention the harm that can result from getting injectable underground lab meds into users’ hands before they have a basic understanding of how to reconstitute and dose safely, which again requires a level of self-sufficiency that ought to be encouraged.

The landscape is constantly changing, there is a lot of bad information out there (both just because so many know-it-alls like to share their uninformed opinions and because bad actors are trying to extract money from you), and a vendor that is good yesterday may not be good today. A lot of harm can result, both financial and physical. Users need to be responsible for themselves in such an environment.
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This isn’t what I’m getting at, My point is to tell them that, rather than simply saying “do your own research”. Or…If people are bored of doing that for the 100th time then simply ignore the newcomers and let them do their own research. There’s no need for sarcastic remarks toward newcomers which I keep seeing from the same handful of “veteran” users.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
Just to clarify for anyone who comes across this, there is no fee for anything at all on this forum. It is funded entirely by the site owner with no compensation. I’m not sure if this is meant to be a joke or if @General Lee is misinformed, but I want to be very clear on this point.
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A mistake on my part, Apologies. Majority of forums have a paid members section. It has been the norm for quite some time (20 years or so).
 
General Lee said:
https://glp1forum.com/threads/dumb-about-60mg-tirz-vial-dosage.3614/

A great example. The time it’s taken to not help is greater than the time it would have taken to help.
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Legitimate question:
Is it just 1 or 2 people you have a problem with that motivates you to create this type of content in so many threads?

Follow up:
If so, is there a reason you don't just DM them so you are not polluting the forum with your negative comments and judgments?

Lastly:
If you have paid registration on many forums and are a moderator as well, why do you come here just to point out, what you consider flaws, as that likely represents 70-80% of your content?

PS:
It would be refreshing to see you respond to this in a way that is positive without excessive emotion.
 
Skidude said:
Legitimate question:
Is it just 1 or 2 people you have a problem with that motivates you to create this type of content in so many threads?

Follow up:
If so, is there a reason you don't just DM them so you are not polluting the forum with your negative comments and judgments?

Lastly:
If you have paid registration on many forums and are a moderator as well, why do you come here just to point out, what you consider flaws, as that likely represents 70-80% of your content?

PS:
It would be refreshing to see you respond to this in a way that is positive without excessive emotion.
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My intent isn’t to target individuals but to address patterns or behaviors that I believe could detract from constructive discussion. If my feedback has come across as overly focused on specific people, that wasn’t my intention—I’ll strive to frame things more productively moving forward.

While private conversations can sometimes resolve issues, I’ve found that public forums benefit from transparent dialogue when it’s done respectfully. That said, I’ll certainly consider whether certain critiques are better suited for private messages to keep the broader space focused on positive engagement.

My activity here stems from a genuine interest in the community’s growth. As someone who’s invested time in other forums, I share feedback with the goal of fostering better discussions—not to dwell on flaws. I’ll aim to balance critique with more proactive contributions to add value.

Thanks for the nudge toward positivity. I’ll take that to heart and work on ensuring my participation reflects the constructive spirit this forum deserves.

Have a nice day 👋🏽
 
General Lee said:
Ah and there it is again….The forum isn’t even old enough for your “yOuVe bEeN hErE 2 wEeKs” comments but yeah in 2 weeks I can judge who’s who fairly accurately since it’s the same group of people with this same issue that never seem to let it lie. Drop the ego it’s embarrassing.
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You can call it ego all you want, but showing up to a forum like this to start pissing and moaning about gatekeeping or whatever isn't going to get you taken seriously.

I've seen so many whiny people like yourself complaining because they aren't being spoonfed everything they want, I'll add you to the list. Pointing out that you are new here isn't ego, it's a fact.

Your whining and concern trolling are what embarrass me. And there will be another whiny newcomer next week bitching about the same thing in your absence. Keep the line moving.
 
peptideusername said:
You can call it ego all you want, but showing up to a forum like this to start pissing and moaning about gatekeeping or whatever isn't going to get you taken seriously.

I've seen so many whiny people like yourself complaining because they aren't being spoonfed everything they want, I'll add you to the list. Pointing out that you are new here isn't ego, it's a fact.

Your whining and concern trolling are what embarrass me. And there will be another whiny newcomer next week bitching about the same thing in your absence. Keep the line moving.
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Forums are supposed to thrive as community-driven spaces where people share knowledge and help each other. Yet this kind of gatekeeping undermines that purpose entirely. Instead of fostering discussion, it creates unnecessary barriers that discourage newcomers—whether through elitism, dismissiveness, or overly rigid rules. The irony is that this attitude doesn’t 'protect' the forum; it just makes it less welcoming and ultimately less active. Whether I personally stick around or not is irrelevant—the bigger issue is how this approach harms the community as a whole. If the goal is to sustain engagement, alienating potential contributors is the worst way to do it.
 
General Lee said:
Forums are supposed to thrive as community-driven spaces where people share knowledge and help each other. Yet this kind of gatekeeping undermines that purpose entirely. Instead of fostering discussion, it creates unnecessary barriers that discourage newcomers—whether through elitism, dismissiveness, or overly rigid rules. The irony is that this attitude doesn’t 'protect' the forum; it just makes it less welcoming and ultimately less active. Whether I personally stick around or not is irrelevant—the bigger issue is how this approach harms the community as a whole. If the goal is to sustain engagement, alienating potential contributors is the worst way to do it.
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I get where you are coming from and agree on the premise, and much of the application, but with some qualifiers. The founder of the forum had a vision for the promotion of self sufficiency and good content, whish is representative in this post he made about a year ago: He preferred subtle bread crumbs to spoon feeding, from what I understand. I think the question is: are we hoping to have more in depth content or very basic questions?

I think the consensus of those who have built and developed this forum is that the latter is accurate and it was never designed an introductory step.
In fact for several months last year all of the new questions were referred to STG, as that forum was the "Stairway" and this was hopefully more intermediate to advanced content. I think assuming it is elitism or gatekeeping is not an accurate lens to see this through, it is simply a graduated course that hopefully allows for all levels of knowledge without the extreme basics of bargain hunting and very pedestrian questions.

I do compliment you on your recent handling of this controversial philosophy and enjoy the debate it can provoke when discussed intelligently.



TLDR portion:
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Skidude said:
I get where you are coming from and agree on the premise, and much of the application, but with some qualifiers. The founder of the forum had a vision for the promotion of self sufficiency and good content, whish is representative in this post he made about a year ago: He preferred subtle bread crumbs to spoon feeding, from what I understand. I think the question is: are we hoping to have more in depth content or very basic questions?

I think the consensus of those who have built and developed this forum is that the latter is accurate and it was never designed an introductory step.
In fact for several months last year all of the new questions were referred to STG, as that forum was the "Stairway" and this was hopefully more intermediate to advanced content. I think assuming it is elitism or gatekeeping is not an accurate lens to see this through, it is simply a graduated course that hopefully allows for all levels of knowledge without the extreme basics of bargain hunting and very pedestrian questions.

I do compliment you on your recent handling of this controversial philosophy and enjoy the debate it can provoke when discussed intelligently.



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A forum's founder may set the initial vision, but as it grows, it becomes a shared space. While some communities enforce strict norms to maintain quality, disrespecting newcomers often backfires—driving away users and stagnating growth. Transparent rules, consistent moderation, snd feedback channels let communities evolve without losing identity.

We’re going round in circles with this now so I will bow out and leave it here.

Have a great day 👌🏼
 
Ivy0878 said:
I too would love the info please
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Ivy, I have been asked to not share this info until the person asking has posted an intro post. Tell us all a little about you and how you got here. What do you want to get out of this forum?... besides a source for whatever you seek. Let's start with what are you taking now, and what do you want to get into?

This is how we keep the community growing.
 
StonePny said:
In fairness, many of these domestic to the US sellers have asked on other forums NOT to have their links shared everywhere publicly, for their own viability. @Peloma was being helpful, not creepy 🙂
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I hope the info is shared helped, pony. That's what most of us here want to do. Help and be helped so we can do so for others.

❤️
 
Bjd4162 said:
you can buy a kit of T20 which is 10 vials, for around $110, sometimes $100 from Chinese vendors. You can buy a vial of T20, 20 mg, for around $75 from a trusted US vendor. .
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zpped said:
As for the going price of Tirz, $0.50/mg would be the most I pay these days. I think $0.41 is the lowest I've seen recently.

edit: that was T30, I just looked at my inventory sheet and remembered I payed $0.36 for T100
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I feel like the t100 is just to show off. I still want a kit though.
 
Wellwell said:
I feel like the t100 is just to show off. I still want a kit though.
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Tirz is the cockroach of the peptide world, it's extremely hardy and durable. But if you're at 15mg that is just over 6 weeks per vial. Not to mention even splitting the vial between a few people.
 
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