Trouble getting pep into pen catridge with filter

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Ugh I need some advice—I'm trying to recon a vial of ARA 290 into a pen cartridge with a filter and I'm almost at the end, trying to filter it into the cartridge and it WILL NOT BUDGE through the filter. Tried using a really low gauge luer needle, too. Any thoughts on why or what to do? I'd REALLY like to filter it (I forgot to wipe the vial top with an alcohol wipe🫣)

Anyone experience this? Is it this particular peptide?
 
Ugh I need some advice—I'm trying to recon a vial of ARA 290 into a pen cartridge with a filter and I'm almost at the end, trying to filter it into the cartridge and it WILL NOT BUDGE through the filter. Tried using a really low gauge luer needle, too. Any thoughts on why or what to do? I'd REALLY like to filter it (I forgot to wipe the vial top with an alcohol wipe🫣)

Anyone experience this? Is it this particular peptide?
This happens to me with the Tisch 4mm filters frequently. Try a new filter. . Some just seem to be difficult. I wet mine first with bac water, which seems to help, but not always.
 
This happens to me with the Tisch 4mm filters frequently. Try a new filter. . Some just seem to be difficult. I wet mine first with bac water, which seems to help, but not always.
Thank you. I asked Chat and chat said ARA 290 doesn't filter well, it sticks to the filter and clogs it instantly. So i'm going to go commando with this one.
 
This happens to me with the Tisch 4mm filters frequently. Try a new filter. . Some just seem to be difficult. I wet mine first with bac water, which seems to help, but not always.
Which ones do you have the most success with and are quality filters? I've started thinking about using them, but I've read that some brands have a high clog rate. Some as high as 25%. I've also looked at some high quality ones, like Fischer Scientific, and they can cost as much as $10 each.
 
Though Uther suggests PBS as a buffer for ARA, Gemini and others suggest a pinch of sodium bicarb instead for ease of filtering.
 
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I don't know about ARA, but I had trouble with reta, mots etc.
It helped to have an extra needle in the cartridge, for venting, did you do that ?
 
I have no experience with ARA, but I recently tried to filter some compound vials with a 4mm filter and it would not budge either. I had to swap to a 13mm filter.
 
Which ones do you have the most success with and are quality filters? I've started thinking about using them, but I've read that some brands have a high clog rate. Some as high as 25%. I've also looked at some high quality ones, like Fischer Scientific, and they can cost as much as $10 each.
I have only used the Tisch since they are available from the vendors I use most, There are brands on Amazon, but I've only seen the 13mm and up, which is too high a loss in pep for my liking..
I dont order from Amazon, because I have a shared Prime account with family members I dont want to have to explain the peptide paraphernalia to..lol
I would love to learn more about the info on brands and clog rate, do you have a link?
thanks.
 
I have only used the Tisch since they are available from the vendors I use most, There are brands on Amazon, but I've only seen the 13mm and up, which is too high a loss in pep for my liking..
I dont order from Amazon, because I have a shared Prime account with family members I dont want to have to explain the peptide paraphernalia to..lol
I would love to learn more about the info on brands and clog rate, do you have a link?
thanks.
13 mm appears to be the minimum diameter I see generally recommended, but I need to dig deeper. I just did a search on "syringe filter types and loss rate" and they are quite a few solid links. I may go with a high quality 13 mm, once I find one, but I thought the whole purpose was to filter for endo's and it appears they can't do that.
 
I have only used the Tisch since they are available from the vendors I use most, There are brands on Amazon, but I've only seen the 13mm and up, which is too high a loss in pep for my liking..
I dont order from Amazon, because I have a shared Prime account with family members I dont want to have to explain the peptide paraphernalia to..lol
I would love to learn more about the info on brands and clog rate, do you have a link?
thanks.
I asked Gemini and it appears your choice of 4 mm is the correct one for peptide use:

Syringe Filter Peptide Loss

When selecting a syringe filter for peptide handling, the type of filter and its size significantly impact peptide loss rates. The membrane material plays a crucial role in minimizing sample loss; polyethersulfone (PES) and polyvinylidene fluoride (PVDF) are commonly used for biological samples due to their low protein binding properties, which helps reduce peptide adsorption and loss during filtration PES filters are particularly recommended for aqueous solutions and are effective in maintaining peptide integrity

Filter size directly affects volumetric loss. Studies show that a 4 mm syringe filter results in significantly less volume loss—approximately 5–7 units—compared to a 13 mm filter, which loses about 29 units when filtering a reconstituted peptide solution For volumes up to 4 mL, a 4 mm filter is optimal to minimize loss, while a 13 mm filter is more appropriate for larger volumes Larger filters (e.g., 25 mm and 33 mm) result in even greater peptide loss due to increased holdup volume

Regarding peptide concentration, filtration has minimal impact. Research indicates that changes in peptide concentration after filtration are not significant enough to affect practical use, and in some cases, a slight increase in concentration was observed, possibly due to the filter retaining water while allowing peptides to pass through However, the loss is primarily volumetric rather than due to peptide degradation or binding.

Additionally, the brand and quality of the filter matter. Some generic filters may have higher holdup volumes than trusted brands like Tisch, which are known for consistent performance For optimal recovery, especially in low-level peptide analysis, high-quality filters such as Agilent Captiva Premium PES syringe filters have demonstrated superior recovery rates (>97%) and reduced column backpressure

In summary, to minimize peptide loss, use a 4 mm PES syringe filter for volumes up to 4 mL, ensure the filter is sterile and low-protein binding, and prefer reputable brands to avoid variability in holdup volume

Edit: Grammer
 
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