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I’m having a hard time getting vendors to message me back. Please help with your favorites and their contacts. Thanks
 
I don't know how long you've been trying to get a response but most people in China are on holiday until May 5.
 
True, but many companies, mine included, had their employees work this past weekend so they can have travel time for the star of the holiday.
 
She's annoying every comment she makes on here is negative .
There are portions of the GLP-1/peptide/etc. community that heavily cater towards people new to the space and have all sorts of guides, resources, and discussion around people getting their start in the grey market.

This is not one of them. The expectation is a certain level of self-sufficiency, because the philosophy here is that this is an area where you are dealing with injecting yourself with health altering substances being sold by drug dealers in another country where we have no legal recourse if anything goes wrong. We know that exit scams happen. That mislabeled vials happen. That zero-peptide vials happen. That customs seizures happen. That for every reliable source there at 10 more that are at best unknowns and frequently outright scammers.

No one on this forum is here to take responsibility for your health and financial security. We want to share information with each other and help each other, and that includes new people, but we also know that enabling people to do this without learning self-sufficiency is enabling people to end up hurting themselves because they haven't got the skillset required to understand if what they're doing is safe or not.

Our resident ScarJo stan is plenty helpful in plenty of places. But if you look at the forums you see this same topic reposted many times a week - people wanting to be told "go buy from this vendor and you'll have a great experience" - but that's not what this forum is. You might get recommendations, but one of the fundamental things you should understand before buying from these vendors is that any random person on this forum giving you a recommendation is just some asshole on the internet and that there is no guarantee that any of us know what we're talking about. If you want to make an informed decision to be as safe as you can, you need to be researching a variety of vendors and going through a variety of anecdotal experiences, testing results, etc.

Some of these vendors are selling things that can straight up kill you. You can buy more than enough DNP to give yourself a lethal dose. There are people on here that discuss using it or other mitochondrial uncouplers. I don't think there's anything wrong with that discussion - adults can put what they want in their body as far as I am concerned - but if you don't understand you need to research and learn about things, you might go "oh wow this thing will make me lose weight without exercise I should buy it" and find yourself hospitalized or dead because you raised your internal body temp enough to cook your brain.

The best thing we can do to help you maximize your chances of a good experience with all of this is get you to understand that you should be doing significant personal research on all of these things and not relying on making a thread to ask a question and getting the answer spoon fed to you, because there is no guarantee that answer will be remotely accurate. If you can't handle that, then yes, you should be buying pharma, because otherwise god knows what is going to happen to you.
 
There are portions of the GLP-1/peptide/etc. community that heavily cater towards people new to the space and have all sorts of guides, resources, and discussion around people getting their start in the grey market.

This is not one of them. The expectation is a certain level of self-sufficiency, because the philosophy here is that this is an area where you are dealing with injecting yourself with health altering substances being sold by drug dealers in another country where we have no legal recourse if anything goes wrong. We know that exit scams happen. That mislabeled vials happen. That zero-peptide vials happen. That customs seizures happen. That for every reliable source there at 10 more that are at best unknowns and frequently outright scammers.

No one on this forum is here to take responsibility for your health and financial security. We want to share information with each other and help each other, and that includes new people, but we also know that enabling people to do this without learning self-sufficiency is enabling people to end up hurting themselves because they haven't got the skillset required to understand if what they're doing is safe or not.

Our resident ScarJo stan is plenty helpful in plenty of places. But if you look at the forums you see this same topic reposted many times a week - people wanting to be told "go buy from this vendor and you'll have a great experience" - but that's not what this forum is. You might get recommendations, but one of the fundamental things you should understand before buying from these vendors is that any random person on this forum giving you a recommendation is just some asshole on the internet and that there is no guarantee that any of us know what we're talking about. If you want to make an informed decision to be as safe as you can, you need to be researching a variety of vendors and going through a variety of anecdotal experiences, testing results, etc.

Some of these vendors are selling things that can straight up kill you. You can buy more than enough DNP to give yourself a lethal dose. There are people on here that discuss using it or other mitochondrial uncouplers. I don't think there's anything wrong with that discussion - adults can put what they want in their body as far as I am concerned - but if you don't understand you need to research and learn about things, you might go "oh wow this thing will make me lose weight without exercise I should buy it" and find yourself hospitalized or dead because you raised your internal body temp enough to cook your brain.

The best thing we can do to help you maximize your chances of a good experience with all of this is get you to understand that you should be doing significant personal research on all of these things and not relying on making a thread to ask a question and getting the answer spoon fed to you, because there is no guarantee that answer will be remotely accurate. If you can't handle that, then yes, you should be buying pharma, because otherwise god knows what is going to happen to you.
This seems like it should be stickied somewhere, good write up.
 
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There are portions of the GLP-1/peptide/etc. community that heavily cater towards people new to the space and have all sorts of guides, resources, and discussion around people getting their start in the grey market.

This is not one of them. The expectation is a certain level of self-sufficiency, because the philosophy here is that this is an area where you are dealing with injecting yourself with health altering substances being sold by drug dealers in another country where we have no legal recourse if anything goes wrong. We know that exit scams happen. That mislabeled vials happen. That zero-peptide vials happen. That customs seizures happen. That for every reliable source there at 10 more that are at best unknowns and frequently outright scammers.

No one on this forum is here to take responsibility for your health and financial security. We want to share information with each other and help each other, and that includes new people, but we also know that enabling people to do this without learning self-sufficiency is enabling people to end up hurting themselves because they haven't got the skillset required to understand if what they're doing is safe or not.

Our resident ScarJo stan is plenty helpful in plenty of places. But if you look at the forums you see this same topic reposted many times a week - people wanting to be told "go buy from this vendor and you'll have a great experience" - but that's not what this forum is. You might get recommendations, but one of the fundamental things you should understand before buying from these vendors is that any random person on this forum giving you a recommendation is just some asshole on the internet and that there is no guarantee that any of us know what we're talking about. If you want to make an informed decision to be as safe as you can, you need to be researching a variety of vendors and going through a variety of anecdotal experiences, testing results, etc.

Some of these vendors are selling things that can straight up kill you. You can buy more than enough DNP to give yourself a lethal dose. There are people on here that discuss using it or other mitochondrial uncouplers. I don't think there's anything wrong with that discussion - adults can put what they want in their body as far as I am concerned - but if you don't understand you need to research and learn about things, you might go "oh wow this thing will make me lose weight without exercise I should buy it" and find yourself hospitalized or dead because you raised your internal body temp enough to cook your brain.

The best thing we can do to help you maximize your chances of a good experience with all of this is get you to understand that you should be doing significant personal research on all of these things and not relying on making a thread to ask a question and getting the answer spoon fed to you, because there is no guarantee that answer will be remotely accurate. If you can't handle that, then yes, you should be buying pharma, because otherwise god knows what is going to happen to you.
Glad you have nothing better to do with your time then write an unhelpful essay
 
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Glad you have nothing better to do with your time then write an unhelpful essay
The fact that you found that unhelpful is exactly the point.

No one is picking on you, but no one can do it for you, and there are dangers that you must be aware of to stay safe and not lose your cash. He actually was being very helpful, but you need to take the chip off your shoulder. I hope you do not have to learn the hard way, but some do.
 
DNP. What does this stand for? Overall great write up. I kills me to watch tik toks about people bragging about going grey. It's gonna get someone killed
 
DNP. What does this stand for? Overall great write up. I kills me to watch tik toks about people bragging about going grey. It's gonna get someone killed
I have seen Hex discuss this in another thread, just pulled up the following on a search:

2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP) is a mitochondrial uncoupler that disrupts the process of oxidative phosphorylation in mitochondria. It works by acting as a protonophore, carrying protons across the mitochondrial membrane and dissipating the proton gradient used for ATP production. This disrupts the normal flow of energy, causing the body to burn more fat for energy and leading to weight loss.
  • Potential Harmful Effects:
    While DNP has been studied for its potential benefits in weight loss and other conditions, its use can also lead to serious side effects, including:
    • Hyperthermia: DNP can cause dangerously high body temperatures due to increased heat production.

    • Tachycardia: Increased heart rate is another potential side effect.

    • Diaphoresis: Excessive sweating is a common symptom.

    • Tachypnea: Rapid breathing can occur.

    • Liver Damage: DNP can be toxic to the liver.

    • Other Potential Problems: Uncoupling can disrupt other cellular processes, leading to a range of potential issues.
 
Thank you for the writeup, Hexagonal, I hope it is pinned somewhere. I think your answer was a very kind response to someone who may not be self-sufficient enough to use peptides. I asked a question several months ago about being unable to find kits of a certain peptide, someone responded that they checked and found several vendors who had the kit I wanted. They didn't tell me the names of the vendors, so I kept searching, which caused me to learn a lot more information about the peptide I wanted and found a few new sources. Being hand-fed the information would not have been as helpful to me. Thanks for writing. The fact that the OP responded with sarcasm and deemed in unhelpful says a lot about the OP.
 
The other DNP seems even worse:
I wasn't even aware of that DNP, but now there are more things abbreviated to DNP that I will not be using, lol.

I was talking about this DNP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dinitrophenol

Some bodybuilders use it when cutting. It basically breaks your mitochondria so instead of doing what they're supposed to, they just start burning a lot of calories making heat.
 
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The other DNP seems even worse:
What are the odds of 2 mitochondrial uncouplers called DNP lol.. good catch

Correction- you were referring to the green mamba DNP?

I should have read more-

DNP, or Dendroaspis natriuretic peptide, is a peptide found in the venom of the green mamba snake (Dendroaspis angusticeps). It is a member of the natriuretic peptide family, similar to atrial natriuretic peptide (ANP) and brain natriuretic peptide (BNP). DNP has been shown to have vasodilator, natriuretic, and diuretic properties.
 
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