Trying to parse all the data on HGH, TRT and secretagogues

[Turbo-Farmer]

Thanks for the reply. Just to be concrete, I'm 6 feet tall, started at 265, currently 225, my original GW was 220 but I am thinking I will shoot for 210 and recomp from there. I do plan to be on a GLP for maintenance long term.

Given the overlapping effects and risk profiles, my sense was the same as what you say above - test will probably achieve the goals as well as or better than HGH, and with better long term safety data. I had never really considered TRT before the last year or so but have been in the contemplation phase for a while and I think I would be fine with going on it long term if the effects are as advertised.

Many male geared Tele health clinics offer both enclophimine and testosterone treatments. I get my enclo from one. I was diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism, which was due to obesity and high insulin levels. Enclomiphene is working for me. I’m in the 500’s, not as high as T injections, but I am hopeful that my levels will improve as I get closer to my goal weight.

6’9” sw 300 cw 251 gw 235

 

[woundcarping]

...6’9”...

Holy smokes.

 

[Gt3294a]

Don't have access to a DEXA scale right now but I'm around 26-27% I think.

Personally, I would wait to you drop more before HGH or the like. Test can really help maintain muscle while losing weight. The additional cut from HGH won’t be too much. Much more noticeable after shedding more first. Also, with higher bfp, insulin sensitivity is more an issue, too. But I only got 2 cents and there it is.

 

[BlueDog55]

Just to add .02 Everyone should think about this... There is no normal number for your Test everyone is different, think about it like this. If when you were 20-25yrs old your test was 1800-2000 and then in your 40's your test is 6-700 no Doctor would call you low but the way you feel would be low. Another guy in his 20's had 6-700 and in his 40's he has 250-300 he is apx the same deficit as the first guy. Don't get caught up on the lab test numbers go with how you feel.