USA Domestic Source / Shipping

Yes Im aware I can move it to a different vial, or put it in a ketchup bottle, or inject it in a teddy bear. Thats not the point, its that it seems abnormal which you just confirmed.
It's a little strange

Its not standard to have to purchase additional vials and transfer out of the vials the compound comes in
I don't know if it's "standard", but it's certainly quite common. Plenty of people filter their peptides, and there would be no point in putting them back in the original vial which contains any potential contaminants that you removed by filtering

, which is not ideal for a number of reasons.
Filtering your peptides is ideal
 
Perhaps filtering is ideal, though I don't think it's crucial. I haven't heard anything that makes me think it is necessary
 
Perhaps filtering is ideal, though I don't think it's crucial. I haven't heard anything that makes me think it is necessary
It isn't necessary. Until you get a vial contaminated with something that a filter would have caught and end up injecting it into yourself.

It's probably more important for immune-compromised people but you are potentially injecting yourself with bacteria or mold when not filtering.
 
Semantics 🤷‍♀️ Nexa itself isn't Chinese. I don't know any more about the inner workings than anyone else other than Cain has asked before, which implies he has at least some say in production.
I am genuinely curious about Nexa not being Chinese. Their website says the company name is Shanghai Nexa Pharma Co and on the Our Company page, it says they are based in Shanghai. What part of Nexa isn't Chinese, other than the US distribution location? I love the service Cain is providing but I thought all their products originated in China?
 
I am genuinely curious about Nexa not being Chinese. Their website says the company name is Shanghai Nexa Pharma Co and on the Our Company page, it says they are based in Shanghai. What part of Nexa isn't Chinese, other than the US distribution location? I love the service Cain is providing but I thought all their products originated in China?
The products are from China. Cain is in the Midwest somewhere. I believe that is the confusion.
 
I am genuinely curious about Nexa not being Chinese. Their website says the company name is Shanghai Nexa Pharma Co and on the Our Company page, it says they are based in Shanghai. What part of Nexa isn't Chinese, other than the US distribution location? I love the service Cain is providing but I thought all their products originated in China?
Their products originate in China just like every other Glp1 vendor. Nobody is making the stuff in the USA. Nexa is just another American reseller of Chinese peptides, but called themselves “Shanghai” to pretend they were an overseas source. The guy has never met a lie he didn’t like, this is just part of that pattern.
 
Their products originate in China just like every other Glp1 vendor. Nobody is making the stuff in the USA. Nexa is just another American reseller of Chinese peptides, but called themselves “Shanghai” to pretend they were an overseas source. The guy has never met a lie he didn’t like, this is just part of that pattern.
Ahhh, ok. Crafty. lol. Thank you.
 
The products are from China. Cain is in the Midwest somewhere. I believe that is the confusion.
Than you. So, I guess his model is to not charge the same markup as most U.S. resellers and make it up on volume? Does anyone know if all the testing he provides is legit? Again, just curious. I source direct from China like many do anyway. Cain's game just seems to be little different than other U.S. resellers.
 
Than you. So, I guess his model is to not charge the same markup as most U.S. resellers and make it up on volume? Does anyone know if all the testing he provides is legit? Again, just curious. I source direct from China like many do anyway. Cain's game just seems to be little different than other U.S. resellers.
As I understand it he is basically running group buys which he calls "presales," prices are consistent with other group buys. The good tests he releases are probably legit, but I don't think he'd release a bad test if he got one based on how whenever a bad test was posted here he'd spam good tests to try to push it down the thread.
 
Semantics 🤷‍♀️ Nexa itself isn't Chinese. I don't know any more about the inner workings than anyone else other than Cain has asked before, which implies he has at least some say in production.
He didn't just imply it. It's been said outright. Said it's small production and hoping to increase in the future. Might be his kitchen... Idk but his stuff is the prettiest of the 3 grey market places I've ordered from
 
He didn't just imply it. It's been said outright. Said it's small production and hoping to increase in the future. Might be his kitchen... Idk but his stuff is the prettiest of the 3 grey market places I've ordered from
Almost all my peps are from Nexa. I'm just completely uninterested in starting another Cain hate thread by mistake when people start bitching so I'm trying to be careful with my phrasing to avoid another mess.

In general I prefer to err on the side of remembering that this is black market and no one can truly be taken at their word. But I trust that his products are tested over and over, which is important to me.
 
Almost all my peps are from Nexa. I'm just completely uninterested in starting another Cain hate thread by mistake when people start bitching so I'm trying to be careful with my phrasing to avoid another mess.

In general I prefer to err on the side of remembering that this is black market and no one can truly be taken at their word. But I trust that his products are tested over and over, which is important to me.
Just to be clear, I am not not bashing Cain at all. Why are there hate threads? Did he do something to warrant that? I don't have a dog in this hunt either way. I'm just studying this whole underground industry for my own benefit. I like what he's put together because he's seem to have found a niche between the US resellers that mark up the stuff 300-500%, and the frustrations of sourcing and waiting for products doing it yourself. I'm buying from China and found a good source.....but am dealing with shipping frustrations.

You are on to something about the trust issue. No matter which way one looks at it, and if looked at 100% objectively, all of this is about trust - even through big pharma. Yes, it's all debatable and if done in a productive way, beneficial to everyone. I get turned off also when people start dumping on others with no logical basis. Thanks for all the good responses from everyone. Helps flatten the learning curve a bit.
 
Just to be clear, I am not not bashing Cain at all. Why are there hate threads? Did he do something to warrant that? I don't have a dog in this hunt either way. I'm just studying this whole underground industry for my own benefit. I like what he's put together because he's seem to have found a niche between the US resellers that mark up the stuff 300-500%, and the frustrations of sourcing and waiting for products doing it yourself. I'm buying from China and found a good source.....but am dealing with shipping frustrations.

You are on to something about the trust issue. No matter which way one looks at it, and if looked at 100% objectively, all of this is about trust - even through big pharma. Yes, it's all debatable and if done in a productive way, beneficial to everyone. I get turned off also when people start dumping on others with no logical basis. Thanks for all the good responses from everyone. Helps flatten the learning curve a bit.

There's a few different things there, and I wasn't around for all of them. There's a bunch of threads on it if you take a look around, but they generally end up with a lot of bickering and interforum bullshit.

-misrepresented themselves as being a Chinese vendor (they say they make their own product, which I'm inclined to believe they do have a hand in the production, but others think they are a domestic reseller)
-shipped out reta that rapidly degraded. They replaced it for everyone that ordered, without requiring people to reach out to them individually, and people are currently waiting on the retest to see if the new product is better.
-some confusion on the filler used at one point, I don't really remember what came of that other than one product had something unexpected, and nexa panicked and assumed other products had it too. Turns out they didn't, but they'd already said the products did, which sowed further distrust among people who were already wary of them- why didn't they know what was used in the making of their own product etc.
-some people don't like the prices charged for the product, assuming it's actually from China, when you look at other group buys. But they're still significantly cheaper than any other domestic.

I'm sure there's other stuff but I don't want to stir up shit again and get called a shill because I like them. I figure everyone in the market is at least a little shady, and with Nexa I get it fast, I can use a credit card, I can personally ask questions of the owner, and it's being tested over and over, so if something goes wrong someone's going to shout it from the rooftops. Also, he wasn't hit by the latest zero pep thing, so he's probably at least getting from a different vendor than everyone else even if he is a reseller. All of the various Chinese companies are resellers too which was pretty much proven with the zero peps.
 
There's a few different things there, and I wasn't around for all of them. There's a bunch of threads on it if you take a look around, but they generally end up with a lot of bickering and interforum bullshit.

-misrepresented themselves as being a Chinese vendor (they say they make their own product, which I'm inclined to believe they do have a hand in the production, but others think they are a domestic reseller)
-shipped out reta that rapidly degraded. They replaced it for everyone that ordered, without requiring people to reach out to them individually, and people are currently waiting on the retest to see if the new product is better.
-some confusion on the filler used at one point, I don't really remember what came of that other than one product had something unexpected, and nexa panicked and assumed other products had it too. Turns out they didn't, but they'd already said the products did, which sowed further distrust among people who were already wary of them- why didn't they know what was used in the making of their own product etc.
-some people don't like the prices charged for the product, assuming it's actually from China, when you look at other group buys. But they're still significantly cheaper than any other domestic.

I'm sure there's other stuff but I don't want to stir up shit again and get called a shill because I like them. I figure everyone in the market is at least a little shady, and with Nexa I get it fast, I can use a credit card, I can personally ask questions of the owner, and it's being tested over and over, so if something goes wrong someone's going to shout it from the rooftops. Also, he wasn't hit by the latest zero pep thing, so he's probably at least getting from a different vendor than everyone else even if he is a reseller. All of the various Chinese companies are resellers too which was pretty much proven with the zero peps.
Thanks for the education. Hell, most companies in the US are shady. No pun intended but all this is gray. Again it goes back to trust and then how each company handles things when problems arise. I agree with you on it being easy to deal with him. Everyone has their way of wanting to do things and the biases that go along with it.

There are labs in.China that do sell just.like the Chinese resellers. I've found one, maybe two. They want a piece of the reseller action because they see the opportunity. But since they are focused on production, they are not good with the distribution/shipping. It is a PITA to deal with that but, for me, I like dealing with the source.so, I.put up with it. I realize that is not what most people want. I digress a little from Cain but, it's all connected. Thanks again.
 
Thanks for the education. Hell, most companies in the US are shady. No pun intended but all this is gray. Again it goes back to trust and then how each company handles things when problems arise. I agree with you on it being easy to deal with him. Everyone has their way of wanting to do things and the biases that go along with it.

There are labs in.China that do sell just.like the Chinese resellers. I've found one, maybe two. They want a piece of the reseller action because they see the opportunity. But since they are focused on production, they are not good with the distribution/shipping. It is a PITA to deal with that but, for me, I like dealing with the source.so, I.put up with it. I realize that is not what most people want. I digress a little from Cain but, it's all connected. Thanks again.
No I gotcha. On the one hand I'd prefer to deal with the source, less likely to have outside factors affecting the product. But customer service is also important to me, I honestly just don't want to deal with the headache of figuring out crypto yet, and I don't want to wait weeks for product or have to chase down a vendor if I have an issue.
 
Right there with you bud. I'm on week four for one of my orders. I'm hoping that once I get my stock where I want it, this becomes less of an issue.🤞🤞🤞....it's all about hobby-ish. Trying to figure out all the pieces though.
 
Right there with you bud. I'm on week four for one of my orders. I'm hoping that once I get my stock where I want it, this becomes less of an issue.🤞🤞🤞....it's all about hobby-ish. Trying to figure out all the pieces though.
Is it normal to wait that long? I placed an order with sry lisa that it’s taking a bit longer compared to my last order and I’m starting to get worried
 
Is it normal to wait that long? I placed an order with sry lisa that it’s taking a bit longer compared to my last order and I’m starting to get worried
It's not out of the ordinary. Some are much better than others. I think my issue is that I'm dealing with a lab and not a reseller. I think SRY is a reseller and, they are typically a little faster. Update on the four weeks......USPS just showed my package in my city. I knew it hit the states but the lack of tracking info had me worried customs caught it.
 
It's not out of the ordinary. Some are much better than others. I think my issue is that I'm dealing with a lab and not a reseller. I think SRY is a reseller and, they are typically a little faster. Update on the four weeks......USPS just showed my package in my city. I knew it hit the states but the lack of tracking info had me worried customs caught it.
It's not out of the ordinary. Some are much better than others. I think my issue is that I'm dealing with a lab and not a reseller. I think SRY is a reseller and, they are typically a little faster. Update on the four weeks......USPS just showed my package in my city. I knew it hit the states but the lack of tracking info had me worried customs
 

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