WARNING: ABC Allen has a lot of nerve

[lasveganon]

So after promising to make things right with everyone, then dipping out and going dark for over a week, Allen returns to his tele to make a new announcement that he is open for sales again for stock in the US warehouse.

Bewsre anyone thinking about sending him any money. He hasn't posted that his USPS account issues have been resolved and none of the packages or money that went missing have been returned.

Shaping up to be another Tracy situation where he thinks popping back up on the scene will just make everyone have collective amnesia.

Allen I know you are on here. You need to make things right.

I'll delete this if he does.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Allen wishes he could be half the legend that Tracy is.

I never even dealt with Tracy, but the legend has affected us all in some way or another XD

 

[keangkong]

So after promising to make things right with everyone, then dipping out and going dark for over a week, Allen returns to his tele to make a new announcement that he is open for sales again for stock in the US warehouse.

Bewsre anyone thinking about sending him any money. He hasn't posted that his USPS account issues have been resolved and none of the packages or money that went missing have been returned.

Shaping up to be another Tracy situation where he thinks popping back up on the scene will just make everyone have collective amnesia.

Allen I know you are on here. You need to make things right.

I'll delete this if he does.

I remember when several vendors at the same time shipped vials that contained no peptides. Most of those disappeared. In contrast, GYC stopped accepting new orders. GYC ended up sending new peptides to folks. For grey vendors to have problems of some sort is to be expected. However, they're required to fix them in order to keep good will.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

So after promising to make things right with everyone, then dipping out and going dark for over a week, Allen returns to his tele to make a new announcement that he is open for sales again for stock in the US warehouse.

Bewsre anyone thinking about sending him any money. He hasn't posted that his USPS account issues have been resolved and none of the packages or money that went missing have been returned.

Shaping up to be another Tracy situation where he thinks popping back up on the scene will just make everyone have collective amnesia.

Allen I know you are on here. You need to make things right.

I'll delete this if he does.

Fuck him. I'm sure ur not the only one. He fucked up a bunch of orders. Post this every week and I will mention it on their thread until zippity tells me I hafta ban you. Bullshit scumbag #fuckchina

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I remember when several vendors at the same time shipped vials that contained no peptides. Most of those disappeared. In contrast, GYC stopped accepting new orders. GYC ended up sending new peptides to folks. For grey vendors to have problems of some sort is to be expected. However, they're required to fix them in order to keep good will.

So we collectively ban ABC and they can suck a dick. Anytime someone inquires we say DONT DO IT YOULL GET NOTHING....

 

[keangkong]

So we collectively ban ABC and they can suck a dick. Anytime someone inquires we say DONT DO IT YOULL GET NOTHING....

Bans can only come from @ZippityDooDah. However, if anyone inquires, we can provide our feedback on any vendor.

 

[lasveganon]

Fuck him. I'm sure ur not the only one. He fucked up a bunch of orders. Post this every week and I will mention it on their thread until zippity tells me I hafta ban you. Bullshit scumbag #fuckchina

I don't want to get banned and if they want this removed, so be it. He hasn't announced they have done anything to correct all the packages that got siezed for counterfeit postage or the ones like mine that just had fake tracking information that USPS incorrectly reported as delivered but never were.

If he would just communicate to those affected, it would go a long way.

 

[mrcrowleyrw]

So after promising to make things right with everyone, then dipping out and going dark for over a week, Allen returns to his tele to make a new announcement that he is open for sales again for stock in the US warehouse.

Bewsre anyone thinking about sending him any money. He hasn't posted that his USPS account issues have been resolved and none of the packages or money that went missing have been returned.

Shaping up to be another Tracy situation where he thinks popping back up on the scene will just make everyone have collective amnesia.

Allen I know you are on here. You need to make things right.

I'll delete this if he does.

First vendor in my journey that has took my money and ran. If thats the case.

 

[Jfrick11]

He still owes lots of people

I don't want to get banned and if they want this removed, so be it. He hasn't announced they have done anything to correct all the packages that got siezed for counterfeit postage or the ones like mine that just had fake tracking information that USPS incorrectly reported as delivered but never were.

If he would just communicate to those affected, it would go a long way.

It's because you're spot on. He's done nothing to make up for those he owes things to, and he isn't communicating with them either. Instead of doing the right thing and fixing his mess, he's opening for new orders. Scam for sure.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I remember when several vendors at the same time shipped vials that contained no peptides. Most of those disappeared. In contrast, GYC stopped accepting new orders. GYC ended up sending new peptides to folks. For grey vendors to have problems of some sort is to be expected. However, they're required to fix them in order to keep good will.

It's wild--like, the GYC playbook isn't all that hard. Be polite, make some attempt at transparency and make sure everybody who had a problem because of what happened is made whole, and then forever be remembered as an "honest" stand-up vendor and new people who do a lot of reading will probably pick you and speak well of you to other new people. But I don't know another vendor who has that down like they do.

 

[keangkong]

It's wild--like, the GYC playbook isn't all that hard. Be polite, make some attempt at transparency and make sure everybody who had a problem because of what happened is made whole, and then forever be remembered as an "honest" stand-up vendor and new people who do a lot of reading will probably pick you and speak well of you to other new people. But I don't know another vendor who has that down like they do.

GYC is a little more expensive than SRY and SSA were before both of them went kaput. Still if I needed to order peptides, I'd likely buy from GYC. Considering that I have few years worth of peptides in my freezer, I'll delay ordering for now.

 

[randompersonrandom]

GYC is a little more expensive than SRY and SSA were before both of them went kaput. Still if I needed to order peptides, I'd likely buy from GYC. Considering that I have few years worth of peptides in my freezer, I'll delay ordering for now.

same. I filled my freezer with mostly-GYC and now there's not much left to buy for a few years, unless I turn out to love Survo enough to hoard more than the two kits I got from j5. I personally found the slight upcharge to be well worth it for a better chance of no drama and not having to wait a month to find out whether my order was successful, though I know that I'm fortunate to be able to pay a little more for that outcome.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I don't want to get banned and if they want this removed, so be it. He hasn't announced they have done anything to correct all the packages that got siezed for counterfeit postage or the ones like mine that just had fake tracking information that USPS incorrectly reported as delivered but never were.

If he would just communicate to those affected, it would go a long way.

I meant me getting banned because I would continue to call out Allen.

 

[H1n1vrz89]

in the grey world you will get scammed one way or another.
I thought i wouldn't be burned but i wasn't say scammed but i did lose a bit of cash in the recent event with ssa.

am i pissed... not really.
I knew it was just a matter of time.

am i disappointed. most def.
but each purchase is a risk and they can guarantee you everything, but if they get raided or just stop messaging you.. then its game over.

with ABC, something seemed off. i wasnt too confident,

unlike MIX which they seem more established/organized.

happy to have not placed an order with ABC.
just note down the BTC address and dont send any $$ to them.

good luck to all that are affected, but in reality.. i wouldnt hold my breath in expecting them to make it right on every one.

also if the REAL tracy were to come back i would order from them..
i feel the latest tracy is a fraud... a liar... not the real heartbreaker we have grown to love.

lol anyways...
Order small, and frequently, from different vendors (you trust)
this will help reduce the "lost" shipments .

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I have edited the thread title more as a matter of executive privilege than anything else since the "scam alert" tag is something I want to remain as an "official" forum notice rather than anyone else's characterization.

 

[lasveganon]

in the grey world you will get scammed one way or another.
I thought i wouldn't be burned but i wasn't say scammed but i did lose a bit of cash in the recent event with ssa.

am i pissed... not really.
I knew it was just a matter of time.

am i disappointed. most def.
but each purchase is a risk and they can guarantee you everything, but if they get raided or just stop messaging you.. then its game over.

with ABC, something seemed off. i wasnt too confident,

unlike MIX which they seem more established/organized.

happy to have not placed an order with ABC.
just note down the BTC address and dont send any $$ to them.

good luck to all that are affected, but in reality.. i wouldnt hold my breath in expecting them to make it right on every one.

also if the REAL tracy were to come back i would order from them..
i feel the latest tracy is a fraud... a liar... not the real heartbreaker we have grown to love.

lol anyways...
Order small, and frequently, from different vendors (you trust)
this will help reduce the "lost" shipments .

I didn't lose much and if they had just chosen to disappear like SSA, I would just chalk it up to the game but I just felt it especially egregious to actually make announcements admitting to the error and promises to make it right, then going dark just to pop up and announce they had more to sell.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I didn't lose much and if they had just chosen to disappear like SSA, I would just chalk it up to the game but I just felt it especially egregious to actually make announcements admitting to the error and promises to make it right, then going dark just to pop up and announce they had more to sell.

I'm not schlepping but everyone went with ABC when Andy's peptides has at least half a dozen tests this year on STG and I've seen no complaints. Mentioned this when everyone panic bought from mixx, jeep or allen.... i will use him next time. Not an endorsement.

 

[lasveganon]

I'm not schlepping but everyone went with ABC when Andy's peptides has at least half a dozen tests this year on STG and I've seen no complaints. Mentioned this when everyone panic bought from mixx, jeep or allen.... i will use him next time. Not an endorsement.

Casually heads over to take a look 👀

 

[Good-Heart6425]

I remember when several vendors at the same time shipped vials that contained no peptides. Most of those disappeared. In contrast, GYC stopped accepting new orders. GYC ended up sending new peptides to folks. For grey vendors to have problems of some sort is to be expected. However, they're required to fix them in order to keep good will.

Does the photo of GYC’s Lisa resemble a Chinese actress? She calls me “Dear!”

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Casually heads over to take a look 👀

My luck they'll go rogue too. Since ssa and sry went down everything's weird. The brewers on meso can't get raws right now. Anyone with a domestic stock is over committing and find they can't replace their inventory.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I'm not schlepping but everyone went with ABC when Andy's peptides has at least half a dozen tests this year on STG and I've seen no complaints. Mentioned this when everyone panic bought from mixx, jeep or allen.... i will use him next time. Not an endorsement.

Holy hell. I went to their discord in curiosity, even though I don't need to be looking at new vendors. I'm used to the GYC discord, where it's here's the specials, here's the questions answered, here's the review, here's the testing talk, have a nice day. The Andy's one is...not that. I mean, there's that, but there's also a lot of stuff that absolutely nobody asked for (like soup recipes and a section for pet pics) that I'm nevertheless kinda charmed by.

Edit, ok, this discord is an absolute fever dream. B e e-bear hash browns made with chocolate. What is happening here?

 

[kimmykat415]

Holy hell. I went to their discord in curiosity, even though I don't need to be looking at new vendors. I'm used to the GYC discord, where it's here's the specials, here's the questions answered, here's the review, here's the testing talk, have a nice day. The Andy's one is...not that. I mean, there's that, but there's also a lot of stuff that absolutely nobody asked for (like soup recipes and a section for pet pics) that I'm nevertheless kinda charmed by.

Edit, ok, this discord is an absolute fever dream. B e e-bear hash browns made with chocolate. What is happening here? View attachment 9053

Wow. Fever dream is right. What is going on there? GYC discord and telegram are so pedestrian and functional.

 

[keangkong]

in the grey world you will get scammed one way or another.
I thought i wouldn't be burned but i wasn't say scammed but i did lose a bit of cash in the recent event with ssa.

Yes, if you lurk in the grey world, you will eventually be scammed. (I'm using the term "scammed" loosely to include situations where you don't get your stuff but the vendor didn't necessarily intend to defraud you at the time you purchased.)

I got burned with QSC.

By reading about vendors in forums that are not controlled by the vendor, you can learn much to reduce the risk of being stiffed. But it will eventually happen to you.

I remember that there was a while when ASC had a reputation for being a great vendor. People were willing to pay more for ASC. Than when the zero peptide thing happened, ASC kept making promises, then eventually disappeared.

Still the alternative of buying these drugs is far too costly.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Does the photo of GYC’s Lisa resemble a Chinese actress? She calls me

Holy hell. I went to their discord in curiosity, even though I don't need to be looking at new vendors. I'm used to the GYC discord, where it's here's the specials, here's the questions answered, here's the review, here's the testing talk, have a nice day. The Andy's one is...not that. I mean, there's that, but there's also a lot of stuff that absolutely nobody asked for (like soup recipes and a section for pet pics) that I'm nevertheless kinda charmed by.

Edit, ok, this discord is an absolute fever dream. B e e-bear hash browns made with chocolate. What is happening here? View attachment 9053

He's cornering the market for Aunties, Moms and Nanas...