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[Calm Logic]

In my experience, many people are willing to jab themselves. They're just not willing to go through the hassle of figuring it out. Dozens of people in real life have asked to buy from me after hearing word of mouth that I have sema and know how to administer it.

The media has really gotten better too at basically endorsing GLP1s. Before, it was "this lady almost died" and "this guy is a goner." And if you didn't die, you wish you did with the side effects.

Celebrities losing weight did a lot though to counter the unknown. (Rich people were also the first to making driving cars seem as normal as using horsepower.) And I would have started earlier if I had known that GLP1s have been used in research for a long time.

I am surprised though that the TV media I see, mostly CBS News, has not mentioned the grey market at all. Of course, if they did, it would be "these people are too desperate/cheap/stupid/crazy/poor to know better." Certainly, we are not at the point that grey is popular enough for doctors to proactively warn patients away from it.

 

[dogmom]

I think the number of people with the initiative to jab themselves with Chinese Grey market peptides is way lower than you'd expect...

I understand that thought process but people now rely on these meds and many can't afford pharma and are about to have the rug pulled out from them when the mid year prescription drug insurance kicks glp1s off of the formulary.

If you would have told me three years ago that I would be using peps straight from china I would have said you were crazy and be saying how unsafe it was etc. I have never done illegal drugs in my life not even marijuana. Never been drunk either. Never injected myself with a needle for any reason before Peptides. And yet here I am 80lbs lighter after two years and for the first time since like I was five that I am in a normal bmi range.

I feel like there are a lot of people like me who if they get fed up with the system, will do whatever it takes to be in control of their health. Big pharma and insurance companies could care less about my quality of life or whether I live or die.

 

[Calm Logic]

If you would have told me three years ago that I would be using peps straight from china I would have said you were crazy and be saying how unsafe it was etc. I have never done illegal drugs in my life not even marijuana. Never been drunk either. Never injected myself with a needle for any reason before Peptides.

At this rate, some of us will be shooting up in public bathrooms at the Olive Garden and Applebee's

 

[rkl123]

My opinion … no forgiveness. Someone posts this sort of thing, we should collectively report their stuff. TT might or might not fully kick them but it will certainly get them off the recommendation algorithm.

 

[chmuse]

At this rate, some of us will be shooting up in public bathrooms at the Olive Garden and Applebee's

I keep my HSN in my purse and sometimes do it in the bathroom at work

 

[Calm Logic]

Yeah, I had a coworker with diabetes on insulin who would keep syringes in her desk drawer. And that was obviously understandable. So it's all a matter of degree after that.

 

[fakeusername]

At this rate, some of us will be shooting up in public bathrooms at the Olive Garden and Applebee's

Yeah you know I've been all paranoid about sterility and every now and than I just think well junkies are pulling this off somehow and theyre going iv.

 

[Calm Logic]

@nonyabizznez

The Medicare Part D copays for Zepbound seem much worse than I thought, though there is a $2k year cap.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zepbound/s/E3NC5Nx9GU

What You'll Pay in Out-of-Pocket Medicare Costs in 2025

When choosing a #Medicare plan, it’s important to understand what your out-of-pocket costs might look like. Here’s what you should consider before making a decision.

www.ncoa.org

But in addition to Extra Help for Part D (which only some qualify for), there is also a payment plan for anyone on Part D:

https://www.medicare.gov/publications/12211-whats-the-medicare-prescription-payment-plan.pdf

 

[nonyabizznez]

@nonyabizznez

The Medicare Part D copays for Zepbound seem much worse than I thought, though there is a $2k year cap.

Yes!
TLDR- it's bullshit! I'm very lucky!

Last year it was more than double that. In the fall during open enrollment I was notified that my Mounjaro script was under review (by my insurer). Medicare provided all the alternate insurers for my state and none covered Zepbound for any indication. Mounjaro or Ozempic for Diabetes only with Prior Authorization. Fortunately the diagnosis alone was enough for my insurer (along with a 45 minute phone call from my PCP with insurance). Compared with other insurers step therapy was involved like Metformin, obstacles that could be overcome but not without a great deal of effort (they count on) most people don't have patience for.

I read somewhere that the majority of script denials these days are coming from AI. In my case initial script was rejected 4 times instantly!

DS Code 11.69 DM with Obesity (rejected 4x)
DS Code 11.69 DM accepted!

The word "Obesity" is an automatic denial. I think after 18 months my script is now considered "Continuation of Care" and now we have labs and results for an appeal situation. It could go away tomorrow and I'm prepared! (Gray)

When I checked the formulary last night interestingly Wegovy is on it (restricted, prior authorization req). I suspect it's for heart patients.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

The word "Obesity" is an automatic denial.

Don't get me started on that damn obesity code. I was at a standard follow-up with my doctor and at the end of the appointment we briefly discussed my weight and Tirzepatide. He suggested compounding because I told him I *knew* it wouldn't be covered because my insurance sucks... and my insurance proved me right by not covering my standard follow-up appointment because an obesity code was added to my list of diagnoses. I fought with them for months over it because they tried to say it was and "obesity care visit which is not covered." I eventually had to have my doctors office just remove the code all together and rebill. So freaking stupid.

 

[nonyabizznez]

Don't get me started on that damn obesity code. I was at a standard follow-up with my doctor and at the end of the appointment we briefly discussed my weight and Tirzepatide. He suggested compounding because I told him I *knew* it wouldn't be covered because my insurance sucks... and my insurance proved me right by not covering my standard follow-up appointment because an obesity code was added to my list of diagnoses. I fought with them for months over it because they tried to say it was and "obesity care visit which is not covered." I eventually had to have my doctors office just remove the code all together and rebill. So freaking stupid.

Yup