What is your experience with using PENS?

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I purchased about 5 pens to use with research meds used frequently. The fist one I loaded didn't seem to deliver anything so I took it apart and figured out the plunger thing was stuff.

Since then I found an issue with half of my pens plungers. They are stuck and I haven't figured out how to fix them yet.

I find myself doubting that I am even getting correct doses delivered.

Has anyone else experienced this or any other issues using PENS?
 
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Pens sound like a hassle. Is there any advantage over just a regular insulin syringe? For daily injections maybe?
I was skeptical too until I got them. Now I love them. The waste of syringes really really bothers me. I load up several vials into one pen, pen cartridge, and it’s so quick. Now I’m on a few different peptides, and it’s such a breeze to pull them out, slap a needle on and pin it. And a lot less waste.
 
I was skeptical too until I got them. Now I love them. The waste of syringes really really bothers me. I load up several vials into one pen, pen cartridge, and it’s so quick. Now I’m on a few different peptides, and it’s such a breeze to pull them out, slap a needle on and pin it. And a lot less waste.
Don't have any issues with using syringes to inject my RS. Kinda liked playing mad scientist. Then I tried switching to a refillable pen. Weekly pin is now done in a flash. Keep my loaded pen in fridge door. Open door, grab pen, inject RS, return pen to fridge, licketysplit., Once a month I get my 4 7.5ml Mounjaro non reusable, inject directly into a 5ml lurloc syringe, then into a pen cartridge. That's all that's left of my playing with chemistry set.
 
I’m curious which pens you’re using as well. I have a V1 and just got a Luxura, both are solid and I’ve had no issues at all with my V1.
 
I'm sure I'll find a pen that fails or doesn't work right the first time, but not so far.

Savio, Bird Pen, V2, Gansulin and they've all just worked. I do have a couple of 3ml cartridges of water that test them with when I first get them. If you have a good coffee scale (0.1g) you can do a decent job of checking several 20-50unit shots with them.
 
Oh, one trick I just saw to keep from ever blowing out a cartridge stopper (or requiring a special set up) even if your vent needle doesn't work...
Just fill it in the very pen that you've reset for use.
 
I'm sure I'll find a pen that fails or doesn't work right the first time, but not so far.

Savio, Bird Pen, V2, Gansulin and they've all just worked. I do have a couple of 3ml cartridges of water that test them with when I first get them. If you have a good coffee scale (0.1g) you can do a decent job of checking several 20-50unit shots with them.
Sounds like a good way to test my pens! Thanks.
 
I'm sure I'll find a pen that fails or doesn't work right the first time, but not so far.

Savio, Bird Pen, V2, Gansulin and they've all just worked. I do have a couple of 3ml cartridges of water that test them with when I first get them. If you have a good coffee scale (0.1g) you can do a decent job of checking several 20-50unit shots with them.
Will do this. I really want these to work. I hate setting up shots every day or so.
I’m curious which pens you’re using as well. I have a V1 and just got a Luxura, both are solid and I’ve had no issues at all with my V1.
I have V1.
 
Will do this. I really want these to work. I hate setting up shots every day or so.

I have V1.
To be clear, what I do is weigh the full cartridge of water.
Typically, it's ~5.5g + 1g/ml of water or ~8.5g total.
Then I weight a pair of 3"x6" paper towel folded in half and Tare the scale w/ them.
My towels weight ~0.05g/in2 so ~0.9g each.

I reuse old towels, carts, old needles, and R/O water for density, so no waste.
Pin 5-10x10units (or 2-5x20units) into the paper towel without losing a drop.
I find lifting a towel off each time I measure is more repeatable.
Don't breathe on the scale 😅

I get differences of 0.4 - 1.1g each time.
It can't resolve a unit, but if it's off by >1iu, but 5-10 times it'll show up as 0.1g.
Once I've soaked 1st towel with ~1cc I leave it on the scale and do the other cc.
A second 5-10x 1unit error and it'll be 0.2g off, which I've never seen.
Once I finish 2cc total I pull the cart out and measure the weight again.
It's weight is always down the same 200units=2cc and ends up with ~6.5g.

If you have a really good 0.01gr scale you can actually measure units directly.
Covering the scale to prevent wind currents is really important in that case.

Realistically, I think most of the error on these Pens is due to air bubbles in the carts so make sure to get ALL of those out. They either work or they don't. If they jam often you might use a drop of silicone lubricant, but I've never had to.
 
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Pens sound like a hassle. Is there any advantage over just a regular insulin syringe? For daily injections maybe?
I love my pens. I take 6 peps daily plus another 3 once weekly, so pens to me save a ton of time. Plus there’s less chance of contamination vs drawing up a syringe daily. And there’s less chance needle isn’t dulled from piercing the vial, so it’s more comfortable.
 
I'm sure I'll find a pen that fails or doesn't work right the first time, but not so far.

Savio, Bird Pen, V2, Gansulin and they've all just worked. I do have a couple of 3ml cartridges of water that test them with when I first get them. If you have a good coffee scale (0.1g) you can do a decent job of checking several 20-50unit shots with them.
I have an all star that literally popped apart mid pin, but I no longer use it. My V2s, birds, gansulins, generic yellow pen from Goodys, generic black pen from molecular mayhem, Saavios, Luxuras, gensupen and .. one ancient autopen that I forget who made it.. have all worked reliably and accurately. I love my pens.
 
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Meh. I’m keeping my autopens.
But I do wear socks.. my feet get cold.
 
I purchased about 5 pens to use with research meds used frequently. The fist one I loaded didn't seem to deliver anything so I took it apart and figured out the plunger thing was stuff.

Since then I found an issue with half of my pens plungers. They are stuck and I haven't figured out how to fix them yet.

I find myself doubting that I am even getting correct doses delivered.

Has anyone else experienced this or any other issues using PENS?
I think that pens hurt less. Using a syringe the needle is first used and dulled by going into the vial. With an injection pen the needle is always fresh. I have never had an issue with one of my pens not working right.
 

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