What was in that vial?

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Before finding this site and all the good information here, I purchased 2 single 5mg vials of Reta from a random single vial seller with COAs from Forever Young Pharmacy. I injected 1mg the first week then 2mg the 2nd and 3rd weeks. That was the end of vial 1 and things were off to a good start. Weight was dropping, with very little if any side effects. For my first dose on vial 2 I injected 2mg. My weight loss slowed, and I started to experience severe nausea and fatigue. The next week I injected the remaining 3mg in the vial, I actually gained weight that week and suffered from vomiting and felt like I had been run over by a bus. The following week I hesitantly injected 3mg from the first of a 10-vial kit I purchased from Nex, I started losing a bit of weight again, I still felt poor, but was improving. This last week I injected another 3mg from NEX, weight loss is back on track, and I am feeling much better again.

So, I am left to wonder what I actually injected into my body from that 2nd vial. Mislabeled Sema, endotoxins, something else entirely?
 
So, I am left to wonder what I actually injected into my body from that 2nd vial.
It’s quite possible that nothing was wrong with the second vial and it’s just a coincidence that your body responded in a negative manner.

If you’re not filtering your peps, you may want to consider doing so in order to rule out sterility or endotoxins as sources for side effects. While subq injections are rather “forgiving”, I still filter my peps and follow aseptic best practices to increase my chances for a favorable outcome.
 
Before finding this site and all the good information here, I purchased 2 single 5mg vials of Reta from a random single vial seller with COAs from Forever Young Pharmacy. I injected 1mg the first week then 2mg the 2nd and 3rd weeks. That was the end of vial 1 and things were off to a good start. Weight was dropping, with very little if any side effects. For my first dose on vial 2 I injected 2mg. My weight loss slowed, and I started to experience severe nausea and fatigue. The next week I injected the remaining 3mg in the vial, I actually gained weight that week and suffered from vomiting and felt like I had been run over by a bus. The following week I hesitantly injected 3mg from the first of a 10-vial kit I purchased from Nex, I started losing a bit of weight again, I still felt poor, but was improving. This last week I injected another 3mg from NEX, weight loss is back on track, and I am feeling much better again.

So, I am left to wonder what I actually injected into my body from that 2nd vial. Mislabeled Sema, endotoxins, something else entirely?
I doubt it was sema if you managed to gain weight while sick. Sure I believe that a first dose of sema @ 2mg would make you ill ... it would probably also make you not want to eat anything.

What it could have been though ... no clue. Might have been pure filler and contaminated to boot.
 
Before finding this site and all the good information here, I purchased 2 single 5mg vials of Reta from a random single vial seller with COAs from Forever Young Pharmacy. I injected 1mg the first week then 2mg the 2nd and 3rd weeks. That was the end of vial 1 and things were off to a good start. Weight was dropping, with very little if any side effects. For my first dose on vial 2 I injected 2mg. My weight loss slowed, and I started to experience severe nausea and fatigue. The next week I injected the remaining 3mg in the vial, I actually gained weight that week and suffered from vomiting and felt like I had been run over by a bus. The following week I hesitantly injected 3mg from the first of a 10-vial kit I purchased from Nex, I started losing a bit of weight again, I still felt poor, but was improving. This last week I injected another 3mg from NEX, weight loss is back on track, and I am feeling much better again.

So, I am left to wonder what I actually injected into my body from that 2nd vial. Mislabeled Sema, endotoxins, something else entirely?
The situation you described is indeed worthy of attention. There may be several reasonable explanations for the obvious differences in efficacy and side effects among drugs from different sources for your reference:
1. Inconsistent drug ingredients: It is possible that the second bottle of the drug is not the semaglutide (Reta may refer to semaglutide-related preparations) as labeled, but has been mistakenly labeled as other drugs, such as Semaglutide (Sema) or other ingredients you mentioned. The dose-response and side effect intensity of different GLP-1 drugs may vary. Even if the dosage is the same, component differences may lead to the aggravation of side effects such as nausea and vomiting, and even affect the weight loss effect.
2. Purity and impurity issues: Medicines from non-official channels may have insufficient purity or contain impurities (such as endotoxins, contaminants). Endotoxins may trigger severe inflammatory responses, leading to symptoms similar to infections such as fatigue, nausea, and vomiting. At the same time, the body's stress response may temporarily affect metabolism, causing weight fluctuations or even weight gain.
3. Improper storage or handling: Peptide drugs have high requirements for storage conditions (such as temperature and light avoidance). If the second bottle of the drug degrades due to improper temperature or repeated freezing and thawing during transportation and storage, it may produce ineffective or even harmful degradation products, thereby causing adverse reactions and losing weight loss effects.

Individual sensitivity to batch differences: Even for the same drug, minor differences between batches (such as excipient components) may cause discomfort in some people, but they usually do not lead to such severe reactions, and the possibility of this is relatively low.
Based on your experience, after switching to a regular channel (Nex) medication, your symptoms improved significantly and you lost weight and recovered. This is more likely to be due to the first two possibilities - that is, the second bottle of medication has incorrect ingredients or quality issues.
 
My first thoughts are first a titration issue. Because Reta is still in trials there isn’t a clear dosing schedule yet, titration suggestions are all over the place but generally speaking it is recommended to stay on a low starting dose (0.5mg/wk for 4/wks for example) before increasing. Because the half-life of glp-1 is about 4 days on average if you take a dose every 7 days you are accumulating a higher concentration each injection. When you rapidly increase the dose each week you increase the likelihood of unwanted side effects exponentially while denying your body time to adjust to the medication. The effects you describe are exactly what would be expected from someone starting a new glp -1 drug.

My second point is that weight loss is rarely linear, while some people lose weight consistently I would say it is more the exception than the rule. It’s more of an ebb and flow for most people so some weeks you will lose weight while the next week you stay the same or even add a few lbs. weight can even change throughout a single day. It is often suggested to only weigh yourself once a week, on the same day and at the same time to get the most accurate tracking for weight loss.

All that said, it’s very hard to know what happened in your case which is an unavoidable issue when using the grey market. Even if you test a vial from each kit you buy , the test only tells you what was in that vial and nothing about what might be in the other nine. In which case we are left to make an assumption that the rest of the kit is similar.
 
I understand it could be a multitude of different possibilities, ranging from bad product, to unrelated illness, or increasing dosage too quickly.
I'm not currently filtering but I'm going to research how to do that. My main goal with sharing this was just in case there with some other naive newbie out there that wasn't doing the proper homework beforehand... They might see this and think twice before injecting a product from a company they don't reasonably trust.
I was so tired of being 5'9 and 300 lb that I was just looking for quick results....
 
My second point is that weight loss is rarely linear, while some people lose weight consistently I would say it is more the exception than the rule. It’s more of an ebb and flow for most people so some weeks you will lose weight while the next week you stay the same or even add a few lbs. weight can even change throughout a single day. It is often suggested to only weigh yourself once a week, on the same day and at the same time to get the most accurate tracking for weight loss.
I agree with this. I weigh every morning and only log and celebrate a new loss. I see ups and downs but at the end of the day, going down over time.
 
Your problem is buying from any vendor that uses Forever Young Pharmacy for testing.

There’s one single vial seller that owns FYP, “testing” their own stuff. Could have been baking soda for all you know.
 

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