What's the longest you've used a vial?

[Superfluous]

I think it might be worth pointing out in here, for any newbies, that the general safe advice is to use your reconstituted GLP1 peptides within 4 weeks of reconstitution - and keep refrigerated. The legit pens you get can last a month outside the fridge and longer in, but they are filled with all sorts of preservatives outside of standard bac water.

I personally go above the 4 week limit (as noted above) and anecdotally I think I've always still been good when it comes to quality (i.e. it still works), but I've no idea if there's been any heightened risks of bacteria infection or I've just got lucky with my immune system just dealing with bacteria as someone who is relatively healthy. I am careful with wiping my vials and needles with alcohol wipes every dose too.

I'm not meaning to discourage anyone from going over a month (as I do do it myself) just trying to temper the conversation a bit for those newbies who might think there is zero risk - you probably still need to take hygiene precautions when storing and using longer term.

 

[mopo89]

Life and health risks aren't worth trying to save a few bucks. Time = increases risk.

sir, we're all taking health risks here to save a few bucks by ordering grey, lmao.

 

[indolent]

heightened risks of bacteria infection

I'm totally comfortable with at least three months (fridge, alcohol swabbing) and also freezing reconnned vials with wild abandon.

BUT I want to add that fungal contamination is also a deadly possibility and (I think) much harder to fight off than most bacterial infections. We live in a world of danger.

 

[peptideusername]

sir, we're all taking health risks here to save a few bucks by ordering grey, lmao.

This is an unfortunate take.
I'm saving thousands of dollars just in the meds alone. And it's the only way I could afford it.
Then, as a result of that affordability, I am saving much more money long term by not developing diabetes or the dozens of other maladies that come with being so obese.
My physical, mental and emotional health are so much better, too, which are hard to put a price on. Saving money on food and alcohol, too.

In my opinion, at this point the bigger health risk is name brand meds/cost or doing nothing.

 

[peptideusername]

I'm totally comfortable with at least three months (fridge, alcohol swabbing) and also freezing reconnned vials with wild abandon.

BUT I want to add that fungal contamination is also a deadly possibility and (I think) much harder to fight off than most bacterial infections. We live in a world of danger.

Plus there is filtering, which should remove bacteria and fungal spores. Other than peptide degradation, I don't see any reason not to continue using it until it's gone.

 

[Benito Camela]

My physical, mental and emotional health are so much better, too, which are hard to put a price on.

This. It really is amazing the improvements in other areas, that is the reason why I went grey and stockpiled; it has become such an important help, I never want to have to go without it.

 

[littledragon25]

I just make sure I buy kits where the vials will be used in 4 weeks at most. I could save $30 by buying 100mg ghk-cu instead of 50mg, but that would mean needing to use a vial for 50 days, not 25, piercing the vial twice as many times. For the sake of $30, I'll take the slightly less risky 25 days instead.

I pin 6mg tirz every 3 days, so a 30mg vial is done in 15 days. I could buy 60mg, but 30mg is often on promo prices and really, I'm only paying like 35c per mg so is it really worth the added risk of double the amount of pins/days when we are talking pennies difference in price?

 

[HoopFan]

Had a vial of Tirz 30mg that was from a (le sigh) provider, that I used from June until a week ago.

 

[mercuryleaf7]

I have a few of most brands. Savvios- nice, can get spendy. Novos- need adaptors. Good pens, but the adaptor is a pain. V1-v2-v3- basic pens. Seem to work well, V1s are favored by more users. All Star- mine came apart mid pin. Stopped using it. A friend has an all star pro that did the same. The “bird pen” auto pen- I like these a lot. Gansulin autopens- love these too. Luxuras- my current favorite. Can be gotten domestically for $50-60 each; there are 2 vendors on Ali selling them for $30-40 right now. Then there are a few no name pens- one set of primary colored ones- functional, inexpensive. The “white plastic pen” sold on underground, they’re is a black and yellow pen sold by Molecular Mayhem- all solid choices.

Can I ask why the adaptor is a pain? Is it purely just because you have to have an extra bit of kit to make them work or do they usually cause problems like getting stuck etc?

Currently trying to decide what pen I want to use and I cant decide if its better to buy a proper branded one or go for one of the cheaper options.

 

[skeptick]

I think it might be worth pointing out in here, for any newbies, that the general safe advice is to use your reconstituted GLP1 peptides within 4 weeks of reconstitution - and keep refrigerated. The legit pens you get can last a month outside the fridge and longer in, but they are filled with all sorts of preservatives outside of standard bac water.

I personally go above the 4 week limit (as noted above) and anecdotally I think I've always still been good when it comes to quality (i.e. it still works), but I've no idea if there's been any heightened risks of bacteria infection or I've just got lucky with my immune system just dealing with bacteria as someone who is relatively healthy. I am careful with wiping my vials and needles with alcohol wipes every dose too.

I'm not meaning to discourage anyone from going over a month (as I do do it myself) just trying to temper the conversation a bit for those newbies who might think there is zero risk - you probably still need to take hygiene precautions when storing and using longer term.

do do ???

 

[kimmykat415]

I get leery after 8 weeks. I started to wonder about potency too but can't say if that was real, in my mind, or overfill when I switched to a new vial/vendor.

FWIW
I don't know this first hand but as I understand it the compounding pharmacies add a preservative (as does Lilly for their pens) so it can last a good long time and stay potent even at room temperature. I assume these preservatives are more than BAC water.

Lilly doesn't add preservatives to their vials part of the way they are trying to keep people locked into using at the standard dose and not trying to play with using a 10 mg vial to get different doses.

 

[FlowerFairy]

Can I ask why the adaptor is a pain? Is it purely just because you have to have an extra bit of kit to make them work or do they usually cause problems like getting stuck etc?

Currently trying to decide what pen I want to use and I cant decide if its better to buy a proper branded one or go for one of the cheaper options.

It’s just that it’s an extra thing I have to remember. My Novos work well, I just prefer my Luxuras.

 

[mercuryleaf7]

It’s just that it’s an extra thing I have to remember. My Novos work well, I just prefer my Luxuras.

Those Lilly pens do look nice. Do you happen to know where I can buy them? Even if its a US site.

 

[littledragon25]

I get leery after 8 weeks. I started to wonder about potency too but can't say if that was real, in my mind, or overfill when I switched to a new vial/vendor.

FWIW
I don't know this first hand but as I understand it the compounding pharmacies add a preservative (as does Lilly for their pens) so it can last a good long time and stay potent even at room temperature. I assume these preservatives are more than BAC water.

Lilly doesn't add preservatives to their vials part of the way they are trying to keep people locked into using at the standard dose and not trying to play with using a 10 mg vial to get different doses.

Unless you're in the EU where Lilly use the kwikpens, which do have preservatives and have multiple doses in them.

Those Lilly pens do look nice. Do you happen to know where I can buy them? Even if its a US site.

Where are you located? I just bought a Savvio (which are Lilly pens) and I'm in the UK.

 

[JujuJ]

Can I ask why the adaptor is a pain? Is it purely just because you have to have an extra bit of kit to make them work or do they usually cause problems like getting stuck etc?

Currently trying to decide what pen I want to use and I cant decide if its better to buy a proper branded one or go for one of the cheaper options.

I bought the V2'S aka magic pen off ali. Yes I use the adapter rings that I bought from Amazon. I tested each pen for accuracy by filling a cartridge and inserting a syringe into it. I set the MG's and pushed the plunger. Each one was spot on so I'm happy lol. I'm not able to compare it to other pens though since this is the only one I've tried.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I do bac for 90 days and reconstituted vials 8 weeks when necessary.

 

[FlowerFairy]

Those Lilly pens do look nice. Do you happen to know where I can buy them? Even if its a US site.

Goodies good life sells them. They are on Ali express too. And Peppy’s, possibly Underground.

 

[Ru272]

Honestly I like the V2s…they have been reliable and good to me…

 

[lasveganon]

My 10mg cag vial from 3 months ago watching me pin .25mg a week