What's your opinion on Injecting test SQ vs IM?
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RoadRash
GLP-1 Apprentice
I can only tell you that if it's oil based I'd recommend doing IM injection.
TacoLifter420
GLP-1 Apprentice
For oils I prefer IM. I pin ventral glute for my trt. For glutathione injections also pin IM, ventral glute. Tirzepatide goes sub q. Not really a drastic difference in how each one feels.
When I first started trt I pinned sub q and always got lumps that would take a day or two to go away.
When I first started trt I pinned sub q and always got lumps that would take a day or two to go away.
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Some guys attempting IM are really doing deep subq, which is another option:
For example:
Personally, I've had to use IM more than anything since even deep subq doesn't cut it enough sometimes with the ISRs. But I didn't try EOD/frequent dosing, which would decrease the amount injected (and provide more stable levels).
Gemini said:
For example:
Personally, I've had to use IM more than anything since even deep subq doesn't cut it enough sometimes with the ISRs. But I didn't try EOD/frequent dosing, which would decrease the amount injected (and provide more stable levels).
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woundcarping
GLP-1 Specialist
I’ve been doing SQ 3x weekly for 3 months now, 8 week labs were fantastic except DHT was still low.
Bumped my dose 50% to try to push DHT up 50%… I’ll test that next month. Fairly sure my hemocrit will have me donating.
Bumped my dose 50% to try to push DHT up 50%… I’ll test that next month. Fairly sure my hemocrit will have me donating.
Tbagger
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I tried subq for a while but had to switch to IM after a couple weeks. I’m doing daily shots of test c in MCT oil and it was leaving lumps that lasted about two weeks. I had to switch to IM because I was starting to get super lumpy. I don’t mind IM, but am thinking about reducing my frequency because daily IM shots are wicked annoying.
why daily, why not weekly or 2x/week?
Cannonball72
GLP-1 Apprentice
I tried sub q with Test C, lumpy and painful to me.
IM in the quad (front pants pocket) works the best for me.
IM in the quad (front pants pocket) works the best for me.
5byfive
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Always done SubQ. Never had an issue. Its supposded to absorb more slowly and give a smoother release. I break it into twice a week but even at once it wasn't an issue. I do ise enanthate so I don't know of that's a factor.
CycleSloth
GLP-1 Novice
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I've always done my test enanthate IM, basically into outer middle part of my thigh muscle (Vastus Lateralis). I started 18 months ago after having typical low-test symptoms and getting a low-testosterone diagnosis. I now get regular 6-monthly blood tests which are reviewed by the clinic. My dose is 100mg a week, split into 50mg every 3.5 days (Tuesday AM and Friday PM).
It works for me, my testosterone levels have gone from very low to an optimal range and I don't plan on trying Sub-Q as what I do is working and is practically painless (I use a 1inch 25g needle).
For peptides, I am new to these, but have only ever done Sub-Q into stomach area with an insulin needle. The little tiny insulin needle is a lot less intimidating for sure, but too small to push any oil-based compounds through, I think.
It works for me, my testosterone levels have gone from very low to an optimal range and I don't plan on trying Sub-Q as what I do is working and is practically painless (I use a 1inch 25g needle).
For peptides, I am new to these, but have only ever done Sub-Q into stomach area with an insulin needle. The little tiny insulin needle is a lot less intimidating for sure, but too small to push any oil-based compounds through, I think.
Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Specialist
Same. For 25 units twice a week (125mg) i use a slin pin in the delt. (Mostly subq maybe tickling the muscle) was never able to do that with gso but with mct warmed up its no problem.
Tbagger
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I started doing it daily when I first started TRT because the more frequently the injections, the more stable your levels will be which reduces side effects such as elevated hematocrit and E2. I wanted to get a baseline on stable levels before playing with the dosage frequency. I think I might try switching to Mon, Wed, Fri and see how it affects my levels.
Gt3294a
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Maybe it is bad memories from decades ago when we would stab ourselves with 22 gauge needles in the glute for shots (not sure why we always used bigger gauge needles back in the day, but it was common then), the thought of giving myself a test shot in the belly area makes me want to pass out (even though I know it can be an insulin needle)….
Tbagger
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I exclusively buy MCT carrier test so I can use 30g for my IM. I'm a pussy and don't want to stab myself with a damn drinking straw lol
drinking straw is a new one 🤣
KevinS
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I think if you are doing 2 shots a week, IM would be the way to go as the volume will probably be around the .5cc range. The more frequent you can tolerate a shot, the smaller the amount per injection. 3x a week or more would be in the SubQ area if you like. I am at 3x a week test c, 200mg/ml, 20 units or 40mg each dose. Done subQ in the stomach with a 30g 1/2" insulin syringe. I am currently using grapeseed oil and it does take a moment to draw it up and a little extra to slowly push it in. Haven't had any lumps. My next prescription is cottonseed oil so we will see how that goes. Probably will throw it in my pocket for about 30 minutes to warm it up a bit, then draw and shoot.
woundcarping
GLP-1 Specialist
I warm my grape seed oil in a little cup of warm water. Makes drawing and pinning a non issue in a 30 gauge.
I get tricking sore thighs occasionally/frequently when I try to IM… I thought it was from 25ga back in the day but Monday I used a 30 gauge stick as deep as it would go and it had me walking funny that evening/sore the next day.
I get tricking sore thighs occasionally/frequently when I try to IM… I thought it was from 25ga back in the day but Monday I used a 30 gauge stick as deep as it would go and it had me walking funny that evening/sore the next day.
RoadRash
GLP-1 Apprentice
We used larger gauge needles because of the oil suspension, at smaller gauges it would take much longer to pin. I still pin test e with a 22
MFGamesta
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I don't think it really matters. I think dose frequency is probably more important. Follow your blood work, your doctor and how you feel.
Keep it simple.
Keep it simple.
Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Specialist
Started w the 22g 10 years ago also, maybe cuz the thick gso. Then 23g and now 25 thanks to migoyl and mct oil. Thats for a summer blast.
I'm on t prop so it's a smaller daily dose for me and sq works fine. I only reserve im shots for large volumes of painful injections >1mL such as l carnitine, glutathione, vitamin c, or any medication that explicitly requires im injections.
Such1943
GLP-1 Apprentice
I'd just get used to doing IM for oils. Warm it up on a mug warmer for better flow and less pip. 30g 1" needle to get deep in muscle. I like .5cc/50 units in each side ie, left/right glute/VG/quad/delts. I pin daily.
