Why are we all hung up on purity?

[raw_oyster_eater]

That alligator skin came from the same place, my tirz comes from…. China lol

In thousands of times getting Chinese takeout I don't remember ever getting shorted. So I think we're all good.

If everyone could update on their experience, that helps me the most.

If someone were to get infected due to whatever, it would be nice to have some antibiotics at the ready.

 

[GLP69]

In thousands of times getting Chinese takeout I don't remember ever getting shorted. So I think we're all good.

If everyone could update on their experience, that helps me the most.

If someone were to get infected due to whatever, it would be nice to have some antibiotics at the ready.

L60 seems legit so far.

 

[Broken Chef]

If nothing else, the purity test tells us if it was prepared/finished properly. As in the case of the QSC low purity tests, we learned that it was not finished properly and therefore degraded rapidly. With people buying years worth of peptides at a time, and some reselling - if the post purchase test shows significantly lower purity than the pre purchase test, that tells us it's degrading rapidly.

As I mentioned earlier, the Jano Q&A said that the remainder of the purity % is degraded/non-active peptide, so a low purity score might show old product or improperly finished product.. which is plenty important to know.

The people making these have their business at stake. All the more reason to use established vendors with a reputation vs pop up vendors offering $20 discounts. And to go through a gb, where the buyer established a relationship with certain vendors who make batches specific to the orders. There's high incentive to provide good product or risk losing $xx,xxx monthly for years to come. I imagine domestic vendors have this sort of relationship as well.

In thousands of times getting Chinese takeout I don't remember ever getting shorted. So I think we're all good.

I'm thinking YOU have nothing to worry about, ever... If the raw oysters and 'at' meat marinated in MSG don't kill you, you're pretty much immune to everything!

at meat = bat, cat, rat j/k just a culinary joke

 

[Broken Chef]

Just saw this on AR FB page!!!

This doesn't seem real, given what the labs have said about the difficulty, time, and expense that goes into it...

There's also speculation on this page that AR is making custom in-house peptide blends.

 

[Eclipse]

@Revo39564
I’ll see that redneck OCD scrawl and raise you one PTouch Label writer!

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I recently gave in and bought a label printer too it's been fun designing and printing vs writing with sharpie the ghetto way.
Its also fun reconstituting it makes me feel like Breaking Bad

 

[dionysos]

I recently gave in and bought a label printer too it's been fun designing and printing vs writing with sharpie the ghetto way.
Its also fun reconstituting it makes me feel like Breaking Bad

HOL UP there Walter White, yer givin' me label-printer envy!
What label maker is that please? I may have to take the PTouch back to Office Max.

And I don't think you know @Revo39564 well enough to be callin' him GHETTO - ya feel me? /s

 

[Eclipse]

Lol Walter White
Reconstituting peptides is more fun than that time I grew shrooms spores for research purposes and then tripped my ass off for 8 hours only to find out it wasn't as fun as it was when I was 16 vs 40 lol and ended up with all kinds of penis envy shroomz.

Anyway I got the Nimboo cheap one and I like to put the code for the lab tests to make it look fancy.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09JSHWVQT?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

 

[dionysos]

Just saw this on AR FB page!!!

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This doesn't seem real, given what the labs have said about the difficulty, time, and expense that goes into it...

There's also speculation on this page that AR is making custom in-house peptide blends.

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It is gratifying but not surprising to see this evolution by AR, Chef.
From the conversations I've had with other US peptide vendors
they see the potential market as HUGE. It seems to me that AR-Skye-Tydes intend to occupy the 'Highest Quality at Moderate Price' GLP1 market niche.

 

[dionysos]

If someone were to get infected due to whatever, it would be nice to have some antibiotics at the ready.

Thankfully, infection rates from subQ injections are far lower than from IMs.
The notable infection sources I've discovered have not been from Peptides but from rank contaminated "Bacteriostatic Water" sourced on Amazon Marketplace.

 

[iamedbile]

lol I have a dedicated freezer and vaccum sealer ? Lol

Can you tell me more about what you use the vacuum sealer for and why? I’m not currently doing that but I’m open to it.

 

[Revo39564]

Can you tell me more about what you use the vacuum sealer for and why? I’m not currently doing that but I’m open to it.

I use it to vaccum seal bags of hot peppers I grow. I also vaccum seal the vials for long term storage

 

[Revo39564]

HOL UP there Walter White, yer givin' me label-printer envy!
What label maker is that please? I may have to take the PTouch back to Office Max.

And I don't think you know @Revo39564 well enough to be callin' him GHETTO - ya feel me? /s

Well I am from South Mississippi originally have 6 kids, an ex wife , remarried , and live in Tennessee …… not ghetto though lol

Also we got our shrooms from
Cow fields in South Mississippi the way God intended lol

 

[geoguy78]

Here is an excellent article on peptide purity written by the business partner of the founder of peptidetest.com:

On Peptide Purity | TrustPointe Analytics LLC

Updated: 19-Jul-2024 Council On Harm Reduction - Peptide Safety Basics The Council on Harm Reduction (CoHR) for peptides

trustpointeanalytics.com

It goes into detail about what these purity numbers mean, and what they do not mean.

Specifically, a 99.575% purity result does *not* mean that 99.575% of the contents of the vial is the claimed substance, and only 0.425% is anything else.

All it means (to oversimplify a bit) is that only 0.425% of the contents is similar to *but not quite* the claimed substance.

The purity process that is being used (HPLC) does not detect substances that are radically different from the claimed substance. For instance, if a vial contained 20mg of perfectly pure tirzepatide and 10mg of arsenic, the HPLC purity test would report it as 100% pure because arsenic is not similar to tirzepatide. The equipment cannot be set to look for everything.

In addition to not detecting significantly different substances the purity score also says nothing about sterility.

Since a 30mg tirzepatide vial could be half poison and biologically contaminated and still get a 99.5% purity reading the question “why do we care about this purity number” is an excellent question.

My answer is simple: We do not have a better test.

I use purity as a proxy, hoping that a lab that does the work to produce a high quality peptide will also do the work to produce a sterile and uncontaminated product.

Wow, that's an eye-opener...

 

[Eclipse]

Well I am from South Mississippi originally have 6 kids, an ex wife , remarried , and live in Tennessee …… not ghetto though lol

Also we got our shrooms from
Cow fields in South Mississippi the way God intended

 

[Eclipse]

Those types of shrmz don't grow in the high elevations I'm in and I think they give something to the cows in the feed to kill those off.
I was amazed how many different kinds I could grow. It was a fun experience. Plus I live an RV so def playing into breaking bad.

 

[Revo39564]

Those types of shrmz don't grow in the high elevations I'm in and I think they give something to the cows in the feed to kill those off.
I was amazed how many different kinds I could grow. It was a fun experience. Plus I live an RV so def playing into breaking bad.

We had natural p cubensis … had to find the fields with grass fed beef for better yields …. Yeah need hot and humid weather . They grow crazy in South Mississippi. A RS could fill a large trash bag in 15 Minutes….. also the Audobon guide to mushroom identification was a great book…… this was many, many years ago

 

[milos]

Makes sense. I wish they wouldn't add filler. I'd be totally fine with just a few grains in the vial. Probably difficult to measure such a small amount.

from my understanding it would be difficult to dilute in water too, at least for Sema

 

[Bacchus]

OK this is exactly what i was trying to convey in post #1. It's like a false sense of security. That's why i won't be wasting any of my product or money on tests.

What i am doing, is using it as soon as i get it as a real-world test and let everyone know if anything is off. The best kind of test.

Well, if you don't do your own lab tests - you simply have to trust the provider to have your best interest in mind and do things properly (even if that means they lose money).

Though the lab test doesn't give you a safety guarantee, it sure doesn't hurt.

In general I would say the risk of your peptides being dangerous is very low. But you do increase that risk by not having a lab test, it could be a completely different compound in that vial for all you know.

I talked to a reporter from Vice UK a couple weeks back that was working on a story where someone had sold insulin pens as semaglutide. No idea if it's a true story, and I doubt it's a common occurrence in any case. But it is a reminder to err on the side of caution.

If you trust your supplier, that's less likely. But what if your supplier didn't test either, and their supplier made a mistake?

Over/underdosing isn't uncommon, whether it's by mistake or not.
And I strongly doubt you would be able to tell if or how much the dose is off by simply by taking it yourself. The FDA sets a 5% swing in the dose as acceptable, i have seen 100% underdosed and 60% overdosed on tests.

"I tried it it's safe" if a close friend said that, it would carry some weight. But from a random stranger, I would rather have a lab test done by a reputable 3rd party.

All that said, I put a lot of stuff in my body that isn't lab tested both IM and subq. But I would not sell it customers without lab testing first. For my personal use it's okay for me to trust my source - But to decide that my customers are ok with trusting my source because I do? Not cool

Do not misunderstand me, I am not fearmongering here, I'm rather confident you can order from more or less any supplier on Alibaba and it's perfectly safe. Honestly I would probably be fine with taking something that's down towards 90% for my own use. But I would not be ok selling it or giving it to others - there is a very distinct difference.

The point I'm trying to make, is that if it's for personal use - you do you, you are probably perfectly safe.

But if you resell without lab testing every single batch you receive, shame on you

 

[Broken Chef]

We had natural p cubensis … had to find the fields with grass fed beef for better yields …. Yeah need hot and humid weather . They grow crazy in South Mississippi. A RS could fill a large trash bag in 15 Minutes….. also the Audobon guide to mushroom identification was a great book…… this was many, many years ago

Used to pick them in South Carolina --- many moons ago. Not really able to recon cow fields these days, lol

I have a friend who grows them, dries, grinds, and fills capsules. I've been micro dosing for years. Mostly Jedi Mind Fuck, but he grows several strains and throws in whatever he has or blends them. Doesn't matter to me for my use.

 

[milos]

I have a friend who grows them, dries, grinds, and fills capsules. I've been micro dosing for years. Mostly

maybe, if he has a good flow hood and generally good sterile tek, he could be able to perform basic sterility tests of vials on agar both for mold & bacteria without the need to pay $200 to a profi lab...
I have somewhere around old DIY glove box and even with that I used to get close to 100% contamination free rates. I was playing around with isolating wild specimens of Ps. cube malay & Cop. cyan/trop.