Zero Tirzepatide I was Scammed

I received the results from Freedom Diagnostics and they match what Krause Labs had stated. Not only was there zero Tirzepatide in the sample but there was no evidence of any peptide at all. As I have stated it makes no sense as it’s a lot of trouble to go through. I have received the replacement and am testing one vial. If it is legitimate I will actually end up ahead of where I was. If not I will be out 680 dollars and will consider it a lesson learned. I will post when I get the results as I realize this may be entertaining at the least to follow 🤣
If it was me I would recon it, draw it up at a much higher does than I normally take and give myself the shot. But that's just me. 🤣
 
Filter it. But I understand. That's why cheaper isn't always better.
Wasn’t any cheaper than any of the other grey I see listed here. Pretty sure they used a different source on my first order and ended up getting burnt themselves. The other shipment I paid for (before getting the bad test back) as well as the replacement shipment all seem to be identical packaging (fonts, labels, cases etc). I pinned a vial of the second shipment last week and took my second dose out of it yesterday and feel like it’s effective, My bathroom scale agrees as does the insomnia that is the only real side effect I have had so far. Still I want to see that on paper because there is a small chance I could be experiencing a placebo effect. One never knows as the mind does strange things sometimes 🤣
 
Wasn’t any cheaper than any of the other grey I see listed here. Pretty sure they used a different source on my first order and ended up getting burnt themselves. The other shipment I paid for (before getting the bad test back) as well as the replacement shipment all seem to be identical packaging (fonts, labels, cases etc). I pinned a vial of the second shipment last week and took my second dose out of it yesterday and feel like it’s effective, My bathroom scale agrees as does the insomnia that is the only real side effect I have had so far. Still I want to see that on paper because there is a small chance I could be experiencing a placebo effect. One never knows as the mind does strange things sometimes 🤣
But most of them have been tested. So no added expense.
I'm glad you got it worked out. That wà crazy.
 
Thanks for posting about this! I'm the person that got the false negative tirz result on the uther T60, which was confirmed to be wrong by Freedom. However, I have had quite a few other samples tested by Krause and I don't that they are all wrong. In the case of the tirz, I think it's something very very stupid like they mixed up the vials. In the same order with the Uther tirz, they also identified a very underfilled T60, which I had bought from a reseller. It was T10. I contacted the reseller, who immediately offered a refund because they claimed to have been scammed, sold the wrong thing by a known bad actor. I won't buy from that person again, mostly because he told me he had sent the kits out for testing and then told me he actually hadn't done that after I sent him the lab results. Anyway it's good to know that Krause gets it right sometimes. So sorry about your misfortune and I hope they are sending you the real deal this time.
 
Thank you for responding here. I really think the vendor in this case got scammed right along with me. Not that they are without fault as they never mentioned they were reselling product (although I suspect most vendors do). As I sit here working at my desk after not eating for about ten hours now and having zero appetite I have to believe that all is well and this story ends happily. If it does I am set for over five years and won’t be ordering anything else for a long time 🤣.
 
It also strikes me that it’s a lot for a vendor to go through to complete a scam. Why not just keep the money and ghost me? It’s bizarre.
That was my thought, too, when my tirz results came back "ND" (none detected). Why bother sending me a fake? Probably bc they're listed on Global Sources, which offers guarantees on shipping and product quantity.

I told the seller and they replaced both kits, which arrived today. Can I ask where you're sending yours to retest?
 
Wow, this is a tough call. Spend $300 more for a maybe? or count it as a loss and spend $300 on a vendor with a better track record... If it were me, I'd shit can em and not throw any more money at it.
Could you say more about scammers manipulating results for profit? I know Krause and the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk both have dubious reps here but I don't know why. Or why Janoshik is considered the gold standard, to the point if their results are different than two other labs, Janoshik is considered definitive. Thanks
 
That was my thought, too, when my tirz results came back "ND" (none detected). Why bother sending me a fake? Probably bc they're listed on Global Sources, which offers guarantees on shipping and product quantity.

I told the seller and they replaced both kits, which arrived today. Can I ask where you're sending yours to retest?
I haven’t decided yet. Turns out they both had it right unfortunately 🤣. Yeah I found GlobalSources before I knew glp1forum existed and it seemed like a freaking treasure trove of Tirzepatide retailers. I guess not so much. From your comment sounds like you got beat by a vendor on there too? It wasn’t the same one was it?
 
I haven’t decided yet. Turns out they both had it right unfortunately 🤣. Yeah I found GlobalSources before I knew glp1forum existed and it seemed like a freaking treasure trove of Tirzepatide retailers. I guess not so much. From your comment sounds like you got beat by a vendor on there too? It wasn’t the same one was it?
Same -- Global Sources came first and I started exploring. There are good vendors there.

I found GLP1forum later. I was thinking of ordering from one of their "premier vendors" before learning that means nothing in terms of business integrity. I guess anyone who pays enough can get that designation?

I got "no tirz detected" results on 2 kits from CN. I'm not sure who your vendor was? Mine did offer to refund or replace the kits, I chose the latter. Another vendor I found there told me listing on that platform means vendors have to stand by guarantees of shipping and product weight/purity.

Now I'm wondering how to ensure it's good stuff without using myself as a guinea pig lol. Besides Janoshik ($300/vial), which labs have a great rep? Vanguard is $250/vial.
 
The vendor that shipped it was not the same name as the listed company. The invoice said Haber Industrial I am attaching a screen shot of the listing. When I asked why it was not the same name the rep said it was the same company. Like I said I think it eventually worked out as whatever they gave me the second time is killing my appetite but I will let you know when I get the results back which won’t be for a month i am guessing. I am reluctant to say who I sent the vial to other than to say it was not Janoshik.
 

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If it does I am set for over five years and won’t be ordering anything else for a long time 🤣.
Spend enough time here and no matter how “set” you are, it won’t be long before you’re ordering again! LOL

I came for the tirz, got seduced by the stacks 🤤

Hope your next testing gives you more favorable results!

I know Krause and the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk both have dubious reps here but I don't know why. Or why Janoshik is considered the gold standard
From what I’ve learned (correct me y’all if I’m wrong), the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk —who sends to Krause— offers vendors to refute a poor lab result and retest for a price. So if Vendor X has a client who posted a bad result, they can essentially pay to undo it. So they scam the vendors by making them pay to play as it were, and they scam the independent testers by giving results that are less than accurate. Janoshik is considered the gold standard because that lab has been around longer than the others, and was already well established before peptide testing became a big thing (he got started by testing anabolics when it was rare/hard to test them).
 
I received the results from Freedom Diagnostics and they match what Krause Labs had stated. Not only was there zero Tirzepatide in the sample but there was no evidence of any peptide at all. As I have stated it makes no sense as it’s a lot of trouble to go through. I have received the replacement and am testing one vial. If it is legitimate I will actually end up ahead of where I was. If not I will be out 680 dollars and will consider it a lesson learned. I will post when I get the results as I realize this may be entertaining at the least to follow 🤣
So who sold you it?
 

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