Amazon Imitation Hospira real?

[DrPEPr]

Yep it seems its a complete Fake.... dont ever order this shit and inject it into your body 😵
The https://drugtesting.eu is also just a fake Site....

Fake site? What makes you think that?
At least come with some evidence that supports your claim (and for me to work with).

 

[janedoe]

I decided to make my own indeed.

Finding benzyl alcohol was actually the hardest part, as most producers or sellers refuse to sell to private individuals in France. I was told they only work with schools or institutions, and that the issue was not minimum order quantities.

I eventually found an EU-based chemical supplier and was able to obtain 1 liter of 99.9% benzyl alcohol (around 35-50 euro). Enough for 1000 years of peptide experiments 😁.

I then bought medical-grade sterile injection water (like in the picture sold in pharmacies, cheap around 10-15 euro x10 vials) and dosed the alcohol using an insulin pen, pre-filling a 3 ml cartridge with the benzyl alcohol. With a 10 ml vial of sterile water, I only had to add 9 clicks to reach the correct concentration (0.9%).

Of course, it’s a bit of a hassle and there’s some waste, since I discard the BAC water produced this way after each reconstitution. But at least I’m fully in control of what I’m actually using for my experiments and I am sure the BAC is "fresh".

So far so good. I am still alive 😎, the reconstitution with tirze, reta and klow worked smoothly.

About a year ago, I posted I was contemplating making my own as well, if hospira BAC became to expensive or difficult to get. I researched a source for B/A, and decided, I would use hospira sterile water as the base. I haven't had to do it yet, as I obtained enough, Hospira BAC prior to the price increase, so I'm good for a while. I figured, I rather make my own... how bad could it be. Can't be worse than the foreign matter I'm pinning at the end of the day.

 

[catrix]

Fake site? What makes you think that?
At least come with some evidence that supports your claim (and for me to work with).

Extensive searches yield zero customer reviews, Trustpilot pages, Reddit discussions, or scam reports specifically for drugtesting.eu. Legitimate services like similar EU drug testing kits (e.g., protestkit.eu or smplest.eu) have visible feedback. No WHOIS details or domain age surfaced in searches, which is a red flag for unestablished sites. Established services have traceable histories; new domains under 6-12 months often signal scams, especially in high-risk niches like drug testing.

 

[Enyola]

Hi DrPEPr, thanks for your investigative work!

I wanted to share below a summary of the analysis I got from Gemini regarding the domain and the CoA (ChatGPT produced similar results). I don't mean to be alarmist, but the AI flagged specific inconsistencies with dates, formatting, and personnel that seem concerning. I'm sharing this to add to the discussion and welcome further verification.

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You asked me to check the company, the CoA, and the people mentioned—here is what I can tell you:

1. The Company (Drugtesting.eu)
Lack of Transparency: While the site claims to be based in Sweden, it does not list a specific physical address, only stating that work is done at "university labs". The domain was only registered in August 2022.
Contradictory Role: They market themselves as a public service for testing "unknown substances" to prevent harm, yet this certificate claims they are a "GMP-compliant QC laboratory" validating a manufacturing batch. Legitimate third-party testing labs generally do not manufacture and release their own pharmaceutical products.

2. The CoA (Certificate of Analysis)
Impossible Timeline: The document lists the "Test Date" for sterility as running from 15 Nov – 29 Nov 2025, yet the document was signed and issued on 20 Nov 2025. It is impossible to certify a 14-day sterility test 9 days before it finishes.
Amateur Formatting: The document is full of raw LaTeX code (e.g., $\le0.25~IU/mL$ and $\ge25$ kGy) instead of properly rendered symbols. Professional lab software (LIMS) does not output raw code like this; this suggests the document was manually typed up or "homebrewed."
Scientific Errors: It claims the water was sterilized using Gamma Irradiation. This is highly unusual for bacteriostatic water (which is typically autoclaved or filtered) because radiation degrades aqueous solutions and plastic/rubber stoppers.

3. The People (Antony Marttila & Anton Edlund)
No Professional Footprint: I analyzed the signatories listed: Antony Marttila (Analyst) and Anton Edlund (QC Manager). I could not find any professional profiles, research publications, or registration records for these individuals in the Swedish pharmaceutical industry.
Regulatory Red Flag: In the EU, a QC Manager releasing sterile injectables holds a heavy regulatory responsibility. The fact that "Anton Edlund" has no visible professional history suggests these names may be pseudonyms or fabricated to make the document appear official.

Bottom line: The combination of impossible dates, raw code in the text, and unverified staff strongly suggests this is a fake certificate generated to make a grey-market product look legitimate.

Nordchem doesn't have a proper impressum on their website. That says it all.

 

[cat_walk]

UPDATE2

I have contacted drugtesting.eu to verify if the CoA was authentic and they have confirmed that this is the case (see attached screenshot).

conclusion: The NordChem bac water from Amazon seems to be legit.

"Hey suspicious testing place, are you legit?"

"Of course we are, trust us Bro. We good."

"Okay!"

😂😂😂😂

DrPEPr, can you ask them to specifically comment on the points raised?

• suspicious dates
• mention of a sterilization approach during manufacturing which is totally wrong (it would actually destroy the Benzylic Alcool)
• use of handmade symbols
• no trace of the people signing the CoA
• no address / company information

Etc,etc...

 

[cat_walk]

My order from Canada to UK incurred no charges. 25 bottles with delivery worked out about £6 each...

Hi Mercutio, would you mind sharing some photos of the Hospira you got?

I was looking at the mentioned site from Canada: (https://www.midwiferysupplies.ca/pr...ssRUcm8F2cGTObX8phtR88LgcCTyLnzkuTtEA0gD7Q-Mw)

I don't understand why the label looks rather different from Hospira's. Is that Pfizer's version?

Besides, I have been regularly refreshing their page, in my months long quest to source legit Hospira Water to France, and they keep saying 4-8 weeks time delay until they ship.

You must have been Uber lucky in ordering and been served in such a timely way 🍀!

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Hi Mercutio, would you mind sharing some photos of the Hospira you got?

I was looking at the mentioned site from Canada: (https://www.midwiferysupplies.ca/pr...ssRUcm8F2cGTObX8phtR88LgcCTyLnzkuTtEA0gD7Q-Mw)

I don't understand why the label looks rather different from Hospira's. Is that Pfizer's version?

Besides, I have been regularly refreshing their page, in my months long quest to source legit Hospira Water to France, and they keep saying 4-8 weeks time delay until they ship.

You must have been Uber lucky in ordering and been served in such a timely way 🍀!

Hospira and Pfizer are the same company, however in Canada they can only use the Pfizer name.

The labels are different because of both the difference in the company name used, as well as the language laws that require both French and English.

 

[ghreid]

Y'all got any of them links to said Pfizer vials? 😄

I'm not much help there. I work in a medical clinic and I had it ordered thru our medical supply company. They carry the 10,20 and 30ml vials

 

[DjJoshua]

Any other brand on Amazon thats good? Why is it so hard to find bac water

I use this and im not dead yet....

Amazon.com: BAC Water 30mL (2 Pack) – 0.9% Benzyl Alcohol Reconstitution Solution – Research Use Only – Made in Draper, Utah, USA – Peptide Restore : Industrial & Scientific

Amazon.com: BAC Water 30mL (2 Pack) – 0.9% Benzyl Alcohol Reconstitution Solution – Research Use Only – Made in Draper, Utah, USA – Peptide Restore : Industrial & Scientific

www.amazon.com

 

[guster]

I use this and im not dead yet....

Amazon.com: BAC Water 30mL (2 Pack) – 0.9% Benzyl Alcohol Reconstitution Solution – Research Use Only – Made in Draper, Utah, USA – Peptide Restore : Industrial & Scientific

Amazon.com: BAC Water 30mL (2 Pack) – 0.9% Benzyl Alcohol Reconstitution Solution – Research Use Only – Made in Draper, Utah, USA – Peptide Restore : Industrial & Scientific

www.amazon.com

You already commented this. Do you work for the brand?

 

[DjJoshua]

You already commented this. Do you work for the brand?

I just figured some one like you needed to hear it twice.. ? and no.

 

[cat_walk]

I use this and im not dead yet....

Amazon.com: BAC Water 30mL (2 Pack) – 0.9% Benzyl Alcohol Reconstitution Solution – Research Use Only – Made in Draper, Utah, USA – Peptide Restore : Industrial & Scientific

Amazon.com: BAC Water 30mL (2 Pack) – 0.9% Benzyl Alcohol Reconstitution Solution – Research Use Only – Made in Draper, Utah, USA – Peptide Restore : Industrial & Scientific

www.amazon.com

Hi DjJoshua, have you read the contribution on page 1 of this thread from @ZippityDooDah?

I just figured some one like you needed to hear it twice.. ? and no.

Repeating “I didn’t die” twice doesn’t magically turn it into a safety standard (nor does it qualify as meaningful discussion among intelligent adults.).

It just makes the reasoning look thinner the second time.

 

[guster]

Update: i ordered hospira from the canada site. In the mean time im going to try this with a filter

PhD Products Bacteriostatic Dilutent - 10 ml - Ultra Clean Reconstitution Solution : Amazon.nl: Business, Industry & Science

PhD Products Bacteriostatic Dilutent - 10 ml - Ultra Clean Reconstitution Solution : Amazon.nl: Business, Industry & Science

www.amazon.nl

 

[DjJoshua]

Hi DjJoshua, have you read the contribution on page 1 of this thread from @ZippityDooDah?


Repeating “I didn’t die” twice doesn’t magically turn it into a safety standard (nor does it qualify as meaningful discussion among intelligent adults.).

It just makes the reasoning look thinner the second time.

Yes, this is my fault. I did post it twice by accident. I didn’t realize it was in the same thread when I did it in my only defense is it’s the same answer in my mind. I just didn’t realize it was in the same thread so that was my fault

 

[spookman]

Check you Lab1 Research H2O on Amazon this is apparently good, there are some tests floating around that say so

 

[BinaryPinecone]

According to this report https://healthproductshortages.ca/shortage/276227 the BAC shortage should be over so hopefully our orders ship out soon. Surely I won't have to rely on mystery juice!