MsGizmo
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I once worked at an autoparts store and a dude came in and asked me if he had a flat tire. He did in fact have a flat tire. Obviously flat.
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IshimaruKenta
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Naw man, that's normal, you're good.
IMO it’s okay to take the top off if you’re carefully pulling out the last dose to use pretty much right away. This is no different than using an ampoule. (Cover your breathing holes!). I don’t like to waste any of it, not just because it’s money, but sometimes it means not needing to open the next vial yet. The insulin syringes are much better than luer locks for minimal waste lost to the syringe and needle hub as well.
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
I "loaned" a girlfriend a 22mg vial of compound (not grey) tirz to try while she decides whether or not to get on it. (if she does, she can pay me back a vial, and if she doesn't, no big deal, I have so much grey in my freezer.) I've done it before for girlfriends who are hesitant to pull the trigger and just want to see if it agrees with them, and they always wind up getting their own and giving me one back,
I talked with her, we pulled the risks/side effects page from one of the pharmacies, I made sure she was aware of all of it, and I showed her the titration schedule. Made sure she knew that it was 10 units for 2.2 mg to start (I know 2.5 is fine, but it's easier to remember the 10 units, and that's what Southend has on their sheet.) Let her know she could text me if there was anything she didn't remember and/or couldn't find.
She went home, forgot the units, dosed WAY too high, and was ill.
I know her to be smart, capable, thoughtful, and competent. And holy shit am I glad it wasn't worse than it was.
I talked with her, we pulled the risks/side effects page from one of the pharmacies, I made sure she was aware of all of it, and I showed her the titration schedule. Made sure she knew that it was 10 units for 2.2 mg to start (I know 2.5 is fine, but it's easier to remember the 10 units, and that's what Southend has on their sheet.) Let her know she could text me if there was anything she didn't remember and/or couldn't find.
She went home, forgot the units, dosed WAY too high, and was ill.
I know her to be smart, capable, thoughtful, and competent. And holy shit am I glad it wasn't worse than it was.
To add to this helpful post, there’s typically a narrow slit on opposite sides of the rubber stopper that will help you see the needle tip.
I couldn’t find quite the right emoji to respond to that story. This kind of mistake happens very very easily to people, despite it being kind of mind boggling when you KNOW you’ve been so careful to go over everything. Professionals giving detailed instructions encounter this issue as well. Only in the medical field do people get trained on the spot then sent home. My car mechanic does not send me you home with a wrench.
If this just happened, you can help the situation turn out emotionally better. (And decrease the tendency for her to defensively shift blame onto you). Check in on her frequently. Get her some electrolytes and tell her she can get Zofran from an urgent care. Remind her she needs to eat a little to avoid gallstones. Tell her to get medical help from an ER if she’s getting dehydrated or experiencing excessive pain. Express lots of empathy.
Plot this out on shotsy or the Peppy’s half life plotter for her and help her take advantage of the few weeks of the proper effects while this dose is wearing off. And hopefully she’ll file this away as an avoidable side effect instead of it putting her off the class of meds.
In the future, you might have to actually help her with doses until you both have confidence she knows her level of competency.
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
Oh absolutely not. She's fine and recovering. She's an adult woman who knew better and does not need me to play doctor or parent, and she managed it fine on her own, I heard the story a few days later.
I don't feel responsible or guilty, only VERY aware that it could have been much more serious, and with a new appreciation and respect for my usual personal rule that I'll hand someone links to the information where they can get themselves some, but NEVER will hand them product. The fact that it wasn't grey seemed made it seem fine, but ope, now compound counts in that rule too.
I only even mentioned it as an underscore to "man, people do wild shit in lieu of reading and following the directions."
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I’ve had to do that with vial stoppers like this to get all the liquid out of the vial. I use a syringe filter then inject into a pen cartridge.
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
Would a 1.5 inch needle on your luer lock syringe that reaches all the way to the bottom of the vial make your life any easier? I would HATE trying to play "match the needle with the very bottom of the stopper to get all of it."
It’s a 10ml vial and I can’t get it all out with the 1.5” as the stopper height limits the needle angle and I can’t get to the bottom edge of the vial. It’s on my NAD+ vials only.
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
oh, well hell. That's not what I want to hear; I got some 10ml vials that I haven't opened so I can use them to mix up my KLOW next time, and I didn't even think to see if they're taller than 1.5 ml, OR if the stopper is thick! Sound like I'm likely to have 10ml vials to store glass beads in instead. 😀
Oh, I didn’t mean for my response to make you less likely to help people find out about glps, only to kind of mention this is just what happens sometimes because people make mistakes. And if you can avoid the trap (sometimes legal) of feeling inappropriately responsible for other people’s actions, there are just helpful ways to follow through when these things happen, when we cared enough to start talking about this path. (and not that doctor or parent is a role limited to doctor or parent, sometimes a friend needs some help.)
I think everyone makes odd mistakes even with the best of intentions, so I’m not blaming her either. I’m assuming that the evaluation the two of you made together prior to her starting was that it was overall a beneficial choice, and so despite a rocky self inflicted road, it was a good decision.
IshimaruKenta
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Are you going to get it back?
Sunflower80
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randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
If she does decide to go forward and get her own, she'll give me back a vial from her order, when she gets it. If she doesn't, then no. It's no big deal to me either way; I have so much that I got for so little. She's still got several doses worth in the vial she has, and I doubt she'll make that same mistake twice. She mentioned she'd going to wait three or four weeks and then try again, this time WITHOUT being careless. I'm not concerned about a repeat, she's not elderly or has any mental problems, and she had no doubt at all as to why she was sick; she was ashamed when she told me what happened. "Yeah so, remember when we talked about to start with ten units? I did not do that. I went home, did some stuff, and shot up thirty units because I am an idiot, and oh my god, I just laid around the last few days waiting to die as a result. I got some soup today, though, so thank god I'm getting better."
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MsGizmo
GLP-1 Enthusiast
That sounds like a case of intentionally taking more than is recommended because they want faster results. A different kind of stupid than just messing up the math. Still stupid though.
* Take note - Most people who do something like this and regret it will be the first people to call it stupid, I'm not attacking the woman. It just is what it is.
CrownJewels
GLP-1 Apprentice
In such a case a coworker always says „its just flat on the bottom, top looks fine“.
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
Nah, I don't think she was--the tone implied that she couldn't remember how many and just picked thirty, thinking it would be no big deal. And if she does decide it's not for her, I think it's no great shame; she only came to talk to me about it because she's been trying to lose the same twenty pounds for five years, and tirzepatide usage across my (very large) workplace has gone from "everyone suspects everyone else might be on it but nobody's admitting it" to "who cares, randompersonrandom is out there on Facebook saying she's on it and nobody's ostracizing HER, it's fine to talk about" so she's finding out that half the people she knows are on it.
My bigger freakout was jesus, I didn't have concerns at all about 'loaning out' a vial of the compound I still have to my girlfriends if they want, it's brought me such joy and my friends are smart, competent, sensible women who don't just go home and do stupid shit. But the number one rule of humans that it's like I suddenly forgot is that humans do stupid, thoughtless, careless shit and you cannot rule that out as a possibility (that's actually a fundamental tennant and a bedrock of the work that I do), and I do not need to be opening myself up to that kind of risk just to be nice.
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kimmieko22
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I got an argument with somebody on Facebook in one of the gym rat groups. He told me that peptides were drugs, and I was going to die early for taking them. Then, went on to say, testosterone wasn't real. I'm like, buddy Most people are deficient in it, and apparently i'm a druggie according to him since I take peptides. He continued his rant that all anybody needs to do is eat less calories and work out harder. I'm like, well that doesn't always work for women but according to doctor know it all, he says it's it does.
FRMN01
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Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Most manslaughter charges should be dropped if the victim was mansplaining.
IshimaruKenta
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Since he's using Facebook, I'm guessing he's over 70.
OregonSunshine
GLP-1 Apprentice
I'm surprised he didn't first ask for a man to confirm if he had a flat tire. You know, cause women can't do car stuff. /s
I do this for my final 2 doses, because I was gifted a bag of 500 of 5/16" diabetic needles. Too short; difficult to get all the product out of a 3ml bottle. I'll get some 5/8" needles in 10 yrs when this batch runs out... (lol)
But I bet she lost some weight!
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
You know what's weird? Almost none of my girlfriends who are on glp-1's are all that vocal about whether or not they're actually losing any weight. My work wife has been on tirz (albeit a very low dose) for six months and has never said yes, no, or maybe.
it's so bizarre to me. I lose half a pound and I'm like "WOOO, I LOST HALF A POUND, ASK ME ABOUT IT! 😀" These girls take of twenty or gain ten and are like "oh, did I?" I'm tempted to assume it's one of those Southern Women things that have to just respect from an incomprehending distance.
I got 100 1.5" noodles and a bunch of 3 ml syringes for a few bucks. I use them to draw up the vial for filtering. Easy peasy.
woundcarping
GLP-1 Specialist
I turn the vial upside down when drawing and keep the tip of the needle under the fluid level. When I get to the end of the vial I retract the tip until the bevel is near the stopper. Normally there’s not enough residue to make a noticeable amount in the bottom of the vial.
I pulled this from the trash, the residual using a 5/16” needle.
BNLFL
GLP-1 Specialist
I had to go over and look at Reddit and the r/Retatrutide deal. I just read down a little, and nope, I'm out.
Oh, I agree, I'm sure it can be done. I was struggling, however. Kept getting air, or bubbly mix. Perhaps it was because I was (an am) on a low dose, the top of my stopper was a pincushion after 24 separate draws, and letting air in? I dunno.
In frustration I popped the top, pulled out the stopper, drew out the dose, and popped the stopper back in.
Pulling the rubber stopper also led to a bit more insight on how it's shaped, which is helpful for future draws.
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