50 mg vial too much for lowest dose?

[Bamafever]

I use the lowest dose but want to buy qsc’s 50mg or even the 40mg. I wouldn’t use a vial in a month, and that’s what I’m supposed to do, right? Is there a way to use this that I’m not thinking of? Or do I just need less mg’s?

 

[moonpies4misfits]

Plenty of people go over 30 days. It's up to your personal risk level. Just make sure you are diligent about contamination. Some folks do 90 days, some go even longer. Personally, at the lowest dosage, I would get smaller vials.

 

[RedSkip]

I use the lowest dose but want to buy qsc’s 50mg or even the 40mg. I wouldn’t use a vial in a month, and that’s what I’m supposed to do, right? Is there a way to use this that I’m not thinking of? Or do I just need less mg’s?

Use alcohol wipes before and after your syringe draw from the vial.

 

[MakeItaDouble]

Not one to pass up a good deal, I bought 60mg kits. I am currently on 5mg/wk but won't dip into my Amo stuff until next year and will probably have titrated up by then. It's a personal level of comfort. I'm ok with 12 wks if care is taken.

 

[Bamafever]

Thank you so much for your replies!

 

[zpped]

You could also split the vial into two and keep one aside. less chance of contaminating it. or share it with someone.

 

[Bamafever]

You could also split the vial into two and keep one aside. less chance of contaminating it. or share it with someone.

I read something about splitting a vial but isn’t there more of a chance with cross contamination doing that vs just using the vial for longer periods? How would you even split it anyway?

 

[zpped]

I read something about splitting a vial but isn’t there more of a chance with cross contamination doing that vs just using the vial for longer periods? How would you even split it anyway?

If everything is in one vial, you puncture that vial every week. Every puncture is a chance of contamination. But lots of people also have no issue using the same vial for multiple months.

Simplest way is remove half of it after reconstituting and then inject it into a new sterile vial. Personally, I prefer pen cartridges so I use those. Also even better if you add a filter and new needle before injecting into the new vial so it's as sterile as possible.

 

[tangoecho311]

My tirz from a weight loss clinic said use within 90 days and it's from South Lake Pharmacy.

I personally prep my syringes. My last vial I got 12 doses out of. But I have a process that limits contamination

*NOTE: This is a watered down/simplified summary and is not meant to be used as a guide for sterile process.

*tie back hair and put on mask
*surgical scrub hands
*sanitize my counter
*get out all supplies, set aside but keep close
*don gloves
*use surgical technique to drape my counter with a sterile drape
*wipe vials with alcohol
*doff gloves
*Don fresh gloves
*wipe top of vial with alcohol
*reconstitute. One hand touches the vial, one hand handles the syringes
*draw up dosages, taking caution to never touch the needle to anything
*put syringes in air tight box in fridge

If I'm adding b12 to my tirz, I use a fresh needle and add it to the syringe with the tirz
so I only have to jab once. Sometimes I may use syringes with removable needles and remove them before storage and put on a fresh one for administering

 

[moonpies4misfits]

My tirz from a weight loss clinic said use within 90 days and it's from South Lake Pharmacy.

I personally prep my syringes. My last vial I got 12 doses out of. But I have a process that limits contamination

*NOTE: This is a watered down/simplified summary and is not meant to be used as a guide for sterile process.

*tie back hair and put on mask
*surgical scrub hands
*sanitize my counter
*get out all supplies, set aside but keep close
*don gloves
*use surgical technique to drape my counter with a sterile drape
*wipe vials with alcohol
*doff gloves
*Don fresh gloves
*wipe top of vial with alcohol
*reconstitute. One hand touches the vial, one hand handles the syringes
*draw up dosages, taking caution to never touch the needle to anything
*put syringes in air tight box in fridge

If I'm adding b12 to my tirz, I use a fresh needle and add it to the syringe with the tirz
so I only have to jab once. Sometimes I may use syringes with removable needles and remove them before storage and put on a fresh one for administering

Are you a CST? I do very similar. Not a CST but I did technically graduate as one with my cert but ended up going into IT instead

 

[tangoecho311]

Are you a CST? I do very similar. Not a CST but I did technically graduate as one with my cert but ended up going into IT instead

I worked in an ag genetics lab in college then in a pharmaceutical research lab for awhile. Then worked in the medical field. I'm probably "too" cautious. But gangrene scares me more than my gray market tirz

 

[Bamafever]

If everything is in one vial, you puncture that vial every week. Every puncture is a chance of contamination. But lots of people also have no issue using the same vial for multiple months.

Simplest way is remove half of it after reconstituting and then inject it into a new sterile vial. Personally, I prefer pen cartridges so I use those. Also even better if you add a filter and new needle before injecting into the new vial so it's as sterile as possible.

This is great advice! Thank you!

 

[moonpies4misfits]

I worked in an ag genetics lab in college then in a pharmaceutical research lab for awhile. Then worked in the medical field. I'm probably "too" cautious. But gangrene scares me more than my gray market tirz

I'm scared of cellulitis lol. I had a terrible case from a bug bite that ended up needing 3 rounds of abx. It was on the inside of my elbow and I've got some permanent swelling from it. My dad makes fun of it and calls it my popeye arm (the swelling is mild but noticeable when it's pointed out).

 

[zpped]

My tirz from a weight loss clinic said use within 90 days and it's from South Lake Pharmacy.

I personally prep my syringes. My last vial I got 12 doses out of. But I have a process that limits contamination

*NOTE: This is a watered down/simplified summary and is not meant to be used as a guide for sterile process.

*tie back hair and put on mask
*surgical scrub hands
*sanitize my counter
*get out all supplies, set aside but keep close
*don gloves
*use surgical technique to drape my counter with a sterile drape
*wipe vials with alcohol
*doff gloves
*Don fresh gloves
*wipe top of vial with alcohol
*reconstitute. One hand touches the vial, one hand handles the syringes
*draw up dosages, taking caution to never touch the needle to anything
*put syringes in air tight box in fridge

If I'm adding b12 to my tirz, I use a fresh needle and add it to the syringe with the tirz
so I only have to jab once. Sometimes I may use syringes with removable needles and remove them before storage and put on a fresh one for administering

Why not use a pen?
I do about 80% of that and I thought I was overkill.

 

[SLZRdad]

If everything is in one vial, you puncture that vial every week. Every puncture is a chance of contamination. But lots of people also have no issue using the same vial for multiple months.

Simplest way is remove half of it after reconstituting and then inject it into a new sterile vial. Personally, I prefer pen cartridges so I use those. Also even better if you add a filter and new needle before injecting into the new vial so it's as sterile as possible.

Where do you get empty pens?

 

[zpped]

Where do you get empty pens?

I think I got my last batch from ezpen. but you can buy them on alibaba. get some sterilization pouches from amazon. you can ask your dentist/nail salon/vet to run it through their autoclave. or use a pressure cooker.

 

[fetefille]

Where do you get empty pens?

I get mine on alibaba, just placed another order. I can send you the link & WhatsApp of the rep I use if you’d like

 

[SLZRdad]

I get mine on alibaba, just placed another order. I can send you the link & WhatsApp of the rep I use if you’d like

Yes please

 

[Tomes]

My tirz from a weight loss clinic said use within 90 days and it's from South Lake Pharmacy.

I personally prep my syringes. My last vial I got 12 doses out of. But I have a process that limits contamination

*NOTE: This is a watered down/simplified summary and is not meant to be used as a guide for sterile process.

*tie back hair and put on mask
*surgical scrub hands
*sanitize my counter
*get out all supplies, set aside but keep close
*don gloves
*use surgical technique to drape my counter with a sterile drape
*wipe vials with alcohol
*doff gloves
*Don fresh gloves
*wipe top of vial with alcohol
*reconstitute. One hand touches the vial, one hand handles the syringes
*draw up dosages, taking caution to never touch the needle to anything
*put syringes in air tight box in fridge

If I'm adding b12 to my tirz, I use a fresh needle and add it to the syringe with the tirz
so I only have to jab once. Sometimes I may use syringes with removable needles and remove them before storage and put on a fresh one for administering

damn. i feel like i might as well be reconstituting inside my compost bin, by comparison. do you do this for every draw / injection, too?

 

[tangoecho311]

damn. i feel like i might as well be reconstituting inside my compost bin, by comparison. do you do this for every draw / injection, too?

I'm usually pre-loading my syringes. I have a 3d printed case my syringes fit in that I store in my fridge. I have a garage fridge that doesn't have any food in it, just cases of drinks and gets sanitized regularly so the risk of mold in that fridge is lower than my food fridge. I also sanitize my syringe case before refilling.
For an injection I just get out my supplies, wash my hands, double sanitize my skin with alcohol, then pin. Being sure my needle doesn't touch anything except my freshly sanitized skin. I always let the alcohol dry fully. And I only do my injections immediately after a shower where I use antibacterial body wash.

It's a bit extreme, I know. It's definitely more steps than most probably "need" to take for harm reduction/risk mitigation. But I've worked in research labs and in the medical field. I've seen gangrene and cellulitis. No thanks. And once you're taught the procedures for sterile process, it sticks with you. It feels "wrong" to do it any other way.