Supply going like hotcakes!

latviantower said:
I use the CNY shutdown and recovery phase to put a laser focus on geebeez that I know will take 4-8 weeks from start to finish anyway. Gives you a chance to ferret out attractive deals.

It’s not like 90%+ of us don’t have at least a couple of years stash in our freezers anyway. What do you think you’re going to run out of during this annual event? “Ooh, snap, I’m down two months’ of tirz - well shoot, only 58 months left in the freezer!!”
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Very true, very true, just offering explanation to those just dipping their toes in the pool for the first time. The OP appeared very concerned by the current shortages. Just trying to advise patience for those trying to place what may be their first order during a inventory shortage.
 
lessthanhalf said:
This quote from one of the above posts from Uther worries me a bit "Because peptides are becoming more popular in China. On TikTok in China" Although I thought tiktok was not accessible past the great firewall inside China? Maybe a local equivalent?
The only thing that might actually break the whole system is the Chinese government deciding to seriously crack down on the whole industry. There is already a new locally designed, owned and released GLP in china, and the major manufacturers are already aggressively price cutting in china in response to this and maybe the black market? The Chinese government is known to tolerate piracy and intellectual property theft when it suits them, and crack down hard when it no longer suits them and could interfere with potentially much more profitable legit industries. I see this as inevitable with peptides, the only question being when not if.
All it will take is a few publicised severe health problems or deaths resulting from peptides in China that could force the government to act to shut them down. And there are so many people there that this is going to happen sooner or later. This is separate to the local economic issues of the peptide pirates competing with the legit local industries , and any international diplomatic or political pressure from the west deriving from their interference in the profitability of the big drug companies.
I do not think they care if anyone in the west gets hurt by peptides, but I do think they will care if Chinese people in China are. They hung the people responsible for putting melamine in baby milk powder.
Supply will not necessarily be abolished if this happens but it will get a lot harder and more expensive.
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Yes, there is a Chinese equivalent to tiktok, Douyin.
 
Calm Logic said:
That's exactly what I was thinking. SRY's US warehouse was the bomb sometimes (before they had lots of drama like particles in their vials and eventually disappeared).

But now I like buying from small domestic resellers on TG, etc. My favorite US warehouse (whose Chinese warehouse has an $800 minimum now) doesn't have much variety for GLPs usually except overpriced tirz and survo.
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It seems like TG is the most popular way to do this process. I haven't made any purchases yet, still learning. But telegram makes me nervous. It's kind of overwhelming. How long did it take you to feel comfortable using it (and discord)?
 
2dogs2cats said:
It seems like TG is the most popular way to do this process. I haven't made any purchases yet, still learning. But telegram makes me nervous. It's kind of overwhelming. How long did it take you to feel comfortable using it (and discord)?
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It is a cesspool, eventually, if you go deeper and deeper. Saw one guy selling "Xanax" that could be laced with fentanyl in a Buy/Sell/Trade section of a steroid-friendly TG group.

So the technical aspect was minor for me compared to some other aspects. But I had to spend months there on TG before seeing a glimpse of the darker side. Like if somone ODs on fent, the cops will sometimes check their TG and Discord (or Signal or whatever else) for the dealer, not just their texts.
 
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Calm Logic said:
It is a cesspool, eventually, if you go deeper and deeper. Saw one guy selling "Xanax" that could be laced with fentanyl in a Buy/Sell/Trade section of a steroid-friendly TG group.

So the technical aspect was minor for me compared to some other aspects. But I had to spend months there on TG before seeing a glimpse of the darker side. Like if somone ODs on fent, the cops will sometimes check their TG and Discord (or Signal or whatever else) for the dealer, not just their texts.
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I'm just dipping my toes in right now but I can see how things could get dark pretty fast there. Thank you so much for your response. I'm trying to be ok with the likelihood of getting scammed but I'm really trying to learn how to do everything the right way
 
2dogs2cats said:
I'm trying to be ok with the likelihood of getting scammed
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Avoiding the Buy / Sell / Trade section of TG groups helps a lot. Scamming risk is higher with steroids than peptides, but there are other issues like lack of COAs.

Not buying from anyone who DMs you first, even if they seem to be the exact same person who is running a Chinese vendor's TG group. They fool people all the time since they will do it within minutes of that person joining the same group, making the person think it is legitimate.

Especially with the Chinese vendors, you will get ppl pretending to be the owner or staff, DMing you with a pricelist, or wanting to know what you are interested in, etc.
 
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Avoiding the Buy / Sell / Trade section of TG groups helps a lot. Scamming risk is higher with steroids than peptides, but there are other issues like lack of COAs.

Not buying from anyone who DMs you first, even if they seem to be the exact same person who is running a Chinese vendor's TG group. They fool people all the time since they will do it within minutes of that person joining the same group, making the person think it is legitimate.

Especially with the Chinese vendors, you will get ppl pretending to be the owner or staff, DMing you with a pricelist, or wanting to know what you are interested in, etc.
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Thank you so much for this! I've seen different people here talking about scammers impersonating well known vendor reps, which has me wary of using it. I've poked around but I haven't bumbled into any buy/sell/trade sections and will avoid them moving forward. It honestly seems easier to get started with crypto than to navigate TG
 
lessthanhalf said:
I do not think they care if anyone in the west gets hurt by peptides, but I do think they will care if Chinese people in China are. They hung the people responsible for putting melamine in baby milk powder.
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Yes but that was 300k counts of murder and attempted murder as far as commie china was concerned. They should have been hung.
 
I order from two suppliers. My main one is out of stock of so many things so I just placed an order with my secondary supplier. Secondary supplier is slightly more expensive. So far they seemed to have stock of everything I needed.
 
Calm Logic said:
And if you buy the R100, you perfectly meet the order minimum of $800. When he was supplying GBs, it was only like $300 for his R100 through a third-party GB.
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Yikes. The other place with a GB on R140 is $320. Not sure on the shipping. That sucker comes in a 3ml vial I saw. I pulled the plug on it.
 
BNLFL said:
Mine (big name) had a huge sale, and I ordered 2 different sizes of R. My bank screwed around and it took a week and half for to pay. My 30 kits are delayed due to selling out, but my 60 was in the US warehouse. They gave me options, like getting it from CN and I elected to wait for the 30's to arrive back in the US warehouse. They offered a % discount on my next order. I still had enough for 2 months, but have 2 kits arriving Wednesday.
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BFF?
 
The long inventory lists are what is available to them from the manufacturers from whom they purchase and sell to us. This is common in grey market CN goods. All these vendors here and elsewhere are not manufacturing or finishing. Maybe a couple of them are. Most are individual sales reps or sales reps from small resellers who buy what they can when they can from whomever they can.
 
pumacorp said:
I agree..Whatsapp is way better ..TG is crap...Discord is ok..
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I've never tried that one, why is it better? Do a lot on vendors use it? I rarely see it mentioned as much as TG or Discord.
 
TG was developed by someone with no idea of User Interface Design.

WhatsApp is used by some Chinese vendors and a group I know for B/S/T, but that's about it, along with some pharmacies on IndiaMart using it for messaging.
 
So true everything sells out so fast. By the time I get off work I can hardly find anything!
 
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BNLFL said:
I've never tried that one, why is it better? Do a lot on vendors use it? I rarely see it mentioned as much as TG or Discord.
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Whatsapp is better for communication with your vendor for making orders as it's encrypted end to end. The problem is that pinning things like prices lists and payment info can't be seen by people who join afterwards. There is no way to see historical posts, that I know of.

With TG and Discord, you can pin items and the historical posts are available to everyone. None of them are perfect, but I've gotten used to using all three of them now. With all the nuking on Discord, I now have more TG groups than Discord for the first time ever.
 
Chili777 said:
Whatsapp is better for communication with your vendor for making orders as it's encrypted end to end. The problem is that pinning things like prices lists and payment info can't be seen by people who join afterwards. There is no way to see historical posts, that I know of.

With TG and Discord, you can pin items and the historical posts are available to everyone. None of them are perfect, but I've gotten used to using all three of them now. With all the nuking on Discord, I now have more TG groups than Discord for the first time ever.
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Discord give me ulcers. Difficult to use, but that's my opinion.
Rickcaps said:
Yes sir. There is so much noise there that I don't know who to trust. Usually people with the same alias name contact me
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Maybe I'm used to it now, and get some help once in a while.
 
Calm Logic said:
By the way, the forum search function is currently limited now for some terms, so I sometimes use Google site search.
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Curious what you're seeing that makes it seem limited? There's been a recent change limiting search frequency to avoid bogging things down, but there shouldn't be any change to what is actually searchable. (Ironically, the server crash last week happened while installing Elasticsearch to improve searching. 🤬)
 
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