JEEP JEEP Important Announcement

[littledragon25]

Nobody expects grey to be the same as Eli Lilly, Molly. We also don't expect refunds on a not-guaranteed issue.

We do expect a better response than 'f*CK you all 🥰'

What are you doing about the remaining orange caps? Are you sending your current t30 black caps and other stock to be tested? Are you going to fix the ongoing issue with reusing the same batch number for months and months, insisting it is the same batch when it clearly is not?

 

[Airborne Daddy]

DEATH TO JEEP! BYE FELICIA!

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

If you have strict requirements for these trace indicators, we recommend purchasing genuine brand products.

Honestly this is good advice

 

[myopicmystic]

Personally I'd pay a premium to vendors that are prepared to underwrite their products with a level of testing.

Of course our third party testing is over the top.

I guess this high level result of endo underlines the importance of the community to jump in and contribute to group testing, as this is what highlighted the matter in point .

Agreed, how vendors respond to unexpected issues is a good indicator of whether they're worth giving my money. Every business/vendor will face an unexpected issue or make a mistake at some point.

I know that the sales reps are probably just passing a message from higher ups, but pretty poor handling of the situation.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Let them charge another 25 bucks a kit and guarantee endos under 250.... most ive seen are between 7-70 @2300 they should trash those kits. At best theyll sellem wholesale cheap and someone will pop up with a 50 dollar tirz 30 sale.

 

[m100568]

Perhaps something was lost in translation. I think the minimum qualification is Jeep's products don't fail the endotoxin test. I don't think it has to be the same as name brand, but you should at least assure us that your products don't exceed failure rates. Jeep may want to reword its response because it sure wasn't very reassuring.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Perhaps something was lost in translation. I think the minimum qualification is Jeep's products don't fail the endotoxin test. I don't think it has to be the same as name brand, but you should at least assure us that your products don't exceed failure rates. Jeep may want to reword its response because it sure wasn't very reassuring.

Whats the failure rate? Based on body weight we have 150 pounders and 400 pounders. Based on 70kg, endos couldnt be over 350 a vial, not a ridiculous request cuz this was the only test ive seen over 250, most were under 80 and i remember a 111 on meso that we thought was high....

 

[Garbo]

DEATH TO JEEP! BYE FELICIA!

Daddy!!!

 

[Raptorrunner]

Jeep is already on the higher end of the price spectrum, and with this endo report they should halt sales, do their own testing on their nickel and reassure their customers that they aren't trying to poison is.

This kind of result is exactly what big pharma and the FDA need to support their position that the grey market is unsafe and we don't know what we are injecting into our bodies.

If Jeep was doing their own testing prior to this one wold think they would have caught the problem before their clients did.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Daddy!

This is concerning... my wbc count has been elevated on multiple tests since i started glp1's and my crp test was 6 (should be under 1) chronic inflammation will take 10 years off your life. Maybe ill regain the 29lbs, go diabetic and live longer than the chinese junk i been pinning the last 16 months

 

[BellyD]

Let them charge another 25 bucks a kit and guarantee endos under 250.... most ive seen are between 7-70 @2300 they should trash those kits. At best theyll sellem wholesale cheap and someone will pop up with a 50 dollar tirz 30 sale.

There's one going on right now in a pepe chat 😂😂 like 55$...

 

[indolent]

Honestly this is good advice

Not in context it isn't

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Not in context it isn't

How so? They’re saying if you’re unwilling to accept nothing but pharma grade you need to be buying pharma. Thats the reality.

 

[indolent]

How so? They’re saying if you’re unwilling to accept nothing but pharma grade you need to be buying pharma. Thats the reality.

The context is that they're ignoring the continuum between all and nothing. They're offering danger when they have the ability to test and remove from delivery a product that is well beyond a reasonable middle ground.

They might as well say if you're unwilling to accept nondelivery of the product, don't send us money. That's not simply "caveat emptor"...if I could curse well in Latin I'd be able to give a relevant substitute phrase.

 

[RetCurious]

If Jeep was doing their own testing prior to this one wold think they would have caught the problem before their clients did.

Y'all still assuming they didn't know before they processed and sold it? 🤣
I'll bet this is no different than the Uther fiasco. They knowingly bought tainted product because they were offered a big discount. "Nobody tests for endos, so long as nobody dies they'll never know. So what if a few people get sick."
They made a business decision.
I don't do business with companies that make those kind of immoral decisions.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

The context is that they're ignoring the continuum between all and nothing. They're offering danger when they have the ability to test and remove from delivery a product that is well beyond a reasonable middle ground.

They might as well say if you're unwilling to accept nondelivery of the product, don't send us money. That's not simply "caveat emptor"...if I could curse well in Latin I'd be able to give a relevant substitute phrase.

They’re saying that they did not make particular commitments, so you should not impose expectations of such commitments on the after the fact. Sorry these are drug dealers. We can rebrand underground labs as our gray market pals, but at the end of the day, you can’t invent expectations of your drug dealers that they themselves never promised.

If you need pharma grade, buy pharma. I am
happy some of the newer folks are learning the reality of the situation.

 

[FNG33]

How so? They’re saying if you’re unwilling to accept nothing but pharma grade you need to be buying pharma. Thats the reality.

There is a massive space between Pharma and Toxic and that's where they have to operate. That's where most have been operating. Their response is absolutely unacceptable even for an international drug smugglers. They are 100% going to be a poster child for the next government crackdown as they are now identified as an unsafe CN drugs that gives no F's. This is not black and white, the 2nd and 3rd order effectsare goong to hurt all of us. They need to be smarter or...
Forum might even get their 30 minutes of unwanted fame.
Untimely the community will decide their fate.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

There is a massive space between Pharma and Toxic and that's where they have to operate. That's where most have been operating. Their response is absolutely unacceptable even for an international drug smugglers. They are 100% going to be a poster child for the next government crackdown as they are now identified as an unsafe CN drugs that gives no F's. This is not black and white, the 2nd and 3rd order effectsare goong to hurt all of us. They need to be smarter or...
Forum might even get their 30 minutes of unwanted fame.
Untimely the community will decide their fate.

It’s extremely black and white. They say what you can expect from them. If you expect more than that, that is because you manufactured your own expectations outside of the reality of the situation. All this gray area is coming from inside your head, whose fault is that? Now if they make promises and then fail to keep them, you have grounds to complain. This is why qsc was a good vendor, they were clear about their obligations and met them. The people who complained about qsc invented obligations that qsc themselves never agreed to. Then they stopped doing what they said they would do, and became a shit vendor. At this point I haven’t seen JEEP failing to do anything at all that they have committed to, do correct me if I am mistaken on that point.

 

[Chili777]

It’s extremely black and white. They say what you can expect from them. If you expect more than that, that is because you manufactured your own expectations outside of the reality of the situation. All this gray area is coming from inside your head, whose fault is that? Now if they make promises and then fail to keep them, you have grounds to complain. This is why qsc was a good vendor, they were clear about their obligations and met them. The people who complained about qsc invented obligations that qsc themselves never agreed to. Then they stopped doing what they said they would do, and became a shit vendor. At this point I haven’t seen JEEP failing to do anything at all that they have committed to, do correct me if I am mistaken on that point.

Technically you are correct, but the marketplace is changing. Glp1forum also has a vested interest in keeping them as a sponsor, and that's fine. Endotoxin is an increasing problem with manufacturing, and most finishers, as they all share the same API suppliers. First it was random peptides, then it was Uther NAD+, then this, all with increasing levels of endos found.

What Peter Magic said a year ago about Endo testing being not worth the money because it is so rare is no longer true. Customers now have a valid reason to be concerned. Jeep could have led the way for all vendors with a, "Yes, we have a problem and we will replace the affected product." Instead, we get "If you don't want to potentially be poisoned, buy brand name.". This is a financial decision, and the marketplace has now changed because of this.

Vendors can continue to say they don't care about Endotoxin, but customers will vote with their wallets as to whether that will continue as viable stance, or not. I know how I'm voting.

 

[staffn1]

It’s extremely black and white. They say what you can expect from them. If you expect more than that, that is because you manufactured your own expectations outside of the reality of the situation. All this gray area is coming from inside your head, whose fault is that? Now if they make promises and then fail to keep them, you have grounds to complain. This is why qsc was a good vendor, they were clear about their obligations and met them. The people who complained about qsc invented obligations that qsc themselves never agreed to. Then they stopped doing what they said they would do, and became a shit vendor. At this point I haven’t seen JEEP failing to do anything at all that they have committed to, do correct me if I am mistaken on that point.

Consumers have a right to have our own expectations and if the supplier doesn't meet it then we are fully able to voice our displeasure including by finding other suppliers. And that also includes voicing that displeasure and pointing others to better choices. And if the supplier doesn't like it they can either change or deal with it. And people are free to ignore it. Who cares. JEEP is going to learn this.

 

[FRMN01]

Finnnrick charges $110 for endotoxin and $120 for heavy metal tests. I'm pretty sure that vendors receive more than 100 kits per peptide. That's $2.30 per kit. I'm also pretty sure that anyone buying from US warehouse will be willing to pay $2.30 extra per kit. Can we ask/suggest vendors to get these tests? If a lot of us keep talking about these and asking for tests, there going to be vendors getting testing done. We, the consumers can make this happen.

 

[Mara_aa]

Everything’s fine and everything’s fair.

Everyone knows they’re taking their own risks. Some people test everything themselves, some try to get by with group testing, some can’t, some fear nothing, and some just don’t give a damn.
But one thing still stands, even if I compare grey‑market sellers to dealers and myself to an addict: they’re “merchants” and they not only can test what they sell - any seller with a basic instinct for self‑preservation would test it. And if they don’t, they’re garbage.
Exactly like a dealer pushing badly cut shit.
Period.
This stuff is dangerous and for an immunocompromised person it can be seriously harmful. If we go the grey‑market route, it’s simply because we can’t afford full pharmaceutical‑grade products for a period of time or for specific reasons.

I’m fucking pissed.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I’m

Technically you are correct, but the marketplace is changing. Glp1forum also has a vested interest in keeping them as a sponsor, and that's fine

I resent the implication. Nothing I said is inconsistent with any position I have ever taken in the past with this type of thing, Zippity posted a big ass banner warning people about the vendor, and I have no financial stake in any aspect of the site or success/failure of any vendor regardless. Over the past few years I have watched everyone whitewash the risks involved with these transactions, with a trend toward trusting vendor testing and treating people selling you things as your friends and saviors. This jeep thing is a teachable moment that you as the buyer indeed need to beware. They’re not your friends, you don’t know their names, you have no recourse, and you should set expectations accordingly.

 

[deleted.user.16]

Finnnrick charges $110 for endotoxin and $120 for heavy metal tests. I'm pretty sure that vendors receive more than 100 kits per peptide. That's $2.30 per kit. I'm also pretty sure that anyone buying from US warehouse will be willing to pay $2.30 extra per kit. Can we ask/suggest vendors to get these tests? If a lot of us keep talking about these and asking for tests, there going to be vendors getting testing done. We, the consumers can make this happen.

The issue is that they can test a different batch than they sell, or lie and say different batches are actually the same batch to save a buck on testing costs, or the supplier's supplier can lie about which vials are from which batch, etc.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Everything’s fine and everything’s fair.

Everyone knows they’re taking their own risks. Some people test everything themselves, some try to get by with group testing, some can’t, some fear nothing, and some just don’t give a damn.
But one thing still stands, even if I compare grey‑market sellers to dealers and myself to an addict: they’re “merchants” and they not only can test what they sell - any seller with a basic instinct for self‑preservation would test it. And if they don’t, they’re garbage.
Exactly like a dealer pushing badly cut shit.
Period.
This stuff is dangerous and for an immunocompromised person it can be seriously harmful. If we go the grey‑market route, it’s simply because we can’t afford full pharmaceutical‑grade products for a period of time or for specific reasons.

I’m fucking pissed.

An immunocompromised person absolutely should not be buying mystery vials of injectable powder from anonymous overseas strangers. I sympathize with the financial strain some face, but really (I don’t mean this to be cruel), it is positively foolish to do so. You’re accepting massive risk. Maybe you didn’t realize the risks before, now you do.

 

[Mara_aa]

Honestly this is good advice

Oh yeah from a vendor of endotoxins sound . Uc@. you all 🤣

 

[Mara_aa]

Honestly this is good advice

Oh yeah from a vendor of endotoxins sound .. u k you all 🤣

 

[Chili777]

I resent the implication. Nothing I said is inconsistent with any position I have ever taken in the past with this type of thing, Zippity posted a big ass banner warning people about the vendor, and I have no financial stake in any aspect of the site or success/failure of any vendor regardless.

I didn't mean to imply that any individual had any financial stake in Jeep or any other vendor, just that they are a sponsor here. And this is a wake up call. So much so, that I don't think any vendor will be able to hide behind, "We don't care about endotoxin", and remain viable going forward. Maybe they will have enough customers that just "slam" at will, but I doubt it. Your advice has been consistent, and has never been needed more than now.

 

[Mara_aa]

An immunocompromised person absolutely should not be buying mystery vials of injectable powder from anonymous overseas strangers. I sympathize with the financial strain some face, but really (I don’t mean this to be cruel), it is positively foolish to do so. You’re accepting massive risk. Maybe you didn’t realize the risks before, now you do.

Thank God I’m not immunocompromised, I’ve never bought any of Jeep’s crap, and I try to use only tested products, and this will be a lesson for me going forward. And just to clarify, my reply isn’t meant as an attack on you, that wasn’t the intention. My point was simply this: everyone who buys grey‑market stuff knows they’re taking risks, of course, but it still doesn’t feel right to turn the person who gets hurt into the one to blame when the seller is the one acting without any scruples. And honestly, a bit more empathy, trying to understand other people’s situations and what they’re dealing with, especially immunocompromised folks who are also here on the forum, would really help. 🫶

 

[FNG33]

It’s extremely black and white. They say what you can expect from them. If you expect more than that, that is because you manufactured your own expectations outside of the reality of the situation. All this gray area is coming from inside your head, whose fault is that? Now if they make promises and then fail to keep them, you have grounds to complain. This is why qsc was a good vendor, they were clear about their obligations and met them. The people who complained about qsc invented obligations that qsc themselves never agreed to. Then they stopped doing what they said they would do, and became a shit vendor. At this point I haven’t seen JEEP failing to do anything at all that they have committed to, do correct me if I am mistaken on that point.

I get what you're saying, we expect to much from them. Most don't think expecting them to provide the advertised product not a vial of toxic contaminates is out of line. Apparently it is.
Western VS Eastern culture, we hold our drug dealers to a higher level here.
The shit product isn't the main issue, shit happens. The shit response is. They could handle this like MIX did there issue or BBA did with customs intercepted 2 mill worth of product or they could do what they are doing. No hair off my back side I'll vote with my crypto.

I will say it again this will get us unwanted media attention and be used to go after Grey. That will be 100% on JEEP. Maybe just
Buy it cheap and stack it deep while you can. Just not from Cheap.