Jeep Reta

RetCurious said:
Use a good filter and Hospira Bac and you'll probably never know someone sneezed on the open vials. 😆
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sick jim carrey GIF
 
5byfive said:
I think the standard view tends to be assume nothing is steril and filter everything. If that's the view, then knowing something has failed shouldn't really matter. It hits different when you see it, but I feel like, if we are being consistsnt, it shouldn't matter. Endos look low to me. I don't think it would be as big a concern if Jeep hadn't failed endo spectacularly recently. Like I said, I think this is likely typical of what we have been using and we just haven't had the proof.
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That is exactly how I see things personally

Bac water, refrigeration, filtering and using all of my peps within three months are the ways I try to manage my sterility risks

But as I see it, I’m still not 100% risk free

What if the filters I purchased are actually crap?

What if my filtration technique is crap?

What if there is something a little off with my Bac water? (I never test my Hospira)

What if my filters, technique and Bac are all technically fine, but they do not happen to filter out/control the specific mold/ yeast/ bacteria in my vial?

That’s why everyone needs to really think about their own risk
 
Am I right in saying that it isn’t going to go cloudy? Sure would be nice if it could be detected without test. And is it fair to say then, because there seems to be some debate, if it’s cloudy it is most certainly a Bac ph issue not the peptide and likely fine to use?
 
Loosehead said:
Am I right in saying that it isn’t going to go cloudy? Sure would be nice if it could be detected without test. And is it fair to say then, because there seems to be some debate, if it’s cloudy it is most certainly a Bac ph issue not the peptide and likely fine to use?
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Unfortunately no. According to ppl who know more than I do, the cloudiness can mean the pep is not binding with excipients. If that’s the case, the peps are not bioavailable to us (ie., useless). Also, the cloudiness could be caused by a defect that occurred during the lyophilization process, which means the Bac ph might be irrelevant to the cloudiness problem.
 
Retazempic said:
Unfortunately no. According to ppl who know more than I do, the cloudiness can mean the pep is not binding with excipients. If that’s the case, the peps are not bioavailable to us (ie., useless). Also, the cloudiness could be caused by a defect that occurred during the lyophilization process, which means the Bac ph might be irrelevant to the cloudiness problem.
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Ah……once again…well, shit.
 
BNLFL said:
My side effects are some heartburn on pin days. I and my wife are both on 6mg. Not sure how much difference this has made, but we've stuck with Lilly's test schedule. Started 2mg for 4 weeks, then bumped up 2mg every 4 weeks. Everyone is different. YMMV
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I wish I had ANY side affects to know that ive actually gotten Reta. Only side affect was no appetite for 2 days at 0.5mg. After that and titrating up too quickly, I have no side affects (week 5 and today, 6, I pinned 5mg). I am a big dude thoigh so not sure if that plays a role (6ft 290lbs). But I dont even have appetite suppression at this dose. Makes me thing I got either flaked by them or something idk. Its a vendor from this forum too that posts a lot. Not gonna say the name, because rules, but I might have to switch to someone else. And yes I use a calculator online to double check my reconstitution n all to get the accurate dosage.
 
Tator said:
I wish I had ANY side affects to know that ive actually gotten Reta. Only side affect was no appetite for 2 days at 0.5mg. After that and titrating up too quickly, I have no side affects (week 5 and today, 6, I pinned 5mg). I am a big dude thoigh so not sure if that plays a role (6ft 290lbs). But I dont even have appetite suppression at this dose. Makes me thing I got either flaked by them or something idk. Its a vendor from this forum too that posts a lot. Not gonna say the name, because rules, but I might have to switch to someone else. And yes I use a calculator online to double check my reconstitution n all to get the accurate dosage.
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I hear many ppl don’t get a result until 6mg, and others don’t see a result until 8 or 9mg. So you still have runway to titrate up.

Did you ever take another GLP1 that you can compare with?

Is your Reta cloudy or clear after reconstitution? If cloudy, it might be ineffective.

You should consider joining a test group
 
Tator said:
I wish I had ANY side affects to know that ive actually gotten Reta. Only side affect was no appetite for 2 days at 0.5mg. After that and titrating up too quickly, I have no side affects (week 5 and today, 6, I pinned 5mg). I am a big dude thoigh so not sure if that plays a role (6ft 290lbs). But I dont even have appetite suppression at this dose. Makes me thing I got either flaked by them or something idk. Its a vendor from this forum too that posts a lot. Not gonna say the name, because rules, but I might have to switch to someone else. And yes I use a calculator online to double check my reconstitution n all to get the accurate dosage.
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If you felt the effects when you first started, likely you got what you think you got. With all the major vendors, we really aren't seeing many issues with mass/purity on the GLPs. If what you are looking for is appetite suppression, your on the wrong med. Reta isn't great at this and you often need to push to higher doses. It doesn't make sense to continue to increase does just to get something that is not a primary effect of the med. If suppression is your goal, Tirz would be a better option.
 
5byfive said:
If you felt the effects when you first started, likely you got what you think you got. With all the major vendors, we really aren't seeing many issues with mass/purity on the GLPs. If what you are looking for is appetite suppression, your on the wrong med. Reta isn't great at this and you often need to push to higher doses. It doesn't make sense to continue to increase does just to get something that is not a primary effect of the med. If suppression is your goal, Tirz would be a better option.
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I’d be careful with some of those conclusions. Yes, Tirz is better for appetite suppression - that’s my experience too. But plenty of ppl get appetite suppression from Reta at right dose. Also, for many, appetite suppression on Reta looks different than suppression on Tirz. For example, on Reta, many don’t report full suppression, but instead say they need to eat way less to get full. Finally, just bc we don’t hear about mass/purity issues doesn’t mean they don’t exist. There are many reasons for that.
 
Tator said:
I wish I had ANY side affects to know that ive actually gotten Reta. Only side affect was no appetite for 2 days at 0.5mg. After that and titrating up too quickly, I have no side affects (week 5 and today, 6, I pinned 5mg). I am a big dude thoigh so not sure if that plays a role (6ft 290lbs). But I dont even have appetite suppression at this dose. Makes me thing I got either flaked by them or something idk. Its a vendor from this forum too that posts a lot. Not gonna say the name, because rules, but I might have to switch to someone else. And yes I use a calculator online to double check my reconstitution n all to get the accurate dosage.
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How long are you staying on a certain dose, like 1 week, 4 weeks?
5byfive said:
If you felt the effects when you first started, likely you got what you think you got. With all the major vendors, we really aren't seeing many issues with mass/purity on the GLPs. If what you are looking for is appetite suppression, your on the wrong med. Reta isn't great at this and you often need to push to higher doses. It doesn't make sense to continue to increase does just to get something that is not a primary effect of the med. If suppression is your goal, Tirz would be a better option.
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While I've never tried Tirz, Reta started my appetite suppression and feeling full day 2 at 2mg. Everyone is different with different reactions.
 
Retazempic said:
I’d be careful with some of those conclusions. Yes, Tirz is better for appetite suppression - that’s my experience too. But plenty of ppl get appetite suppression from Reta at right dose. Also, for many, appetite suppression on Reta looks different than suppression on Tirz. For example, on Reta, many don’t report full suppression, but instead say they need to eat way less to get full. Finally, just bc we don’t hear about mass/purity issues doesn’t mean they don’t exist. There are many reasons for that.
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I don't disagree with that, I'm just saying that since appetite suppression isn't the primary effect of Reta, it is not the right metric to use in figuring out dosage. I'm not saying its a bad choice (although I think for many people it isn't the best option, that's another post) I'm just saying that if appetite suppression is the primary concern, Tirz is better.

Also, I'm not saying testing isn't important, I want 3P testing for anything before I take it. I'm just saying that, since he is already taking it, if he got it from one of the major vendors (and I didn't see if he said in a different post) it is likely that he got what he thinks he got (although maybe slightly under, or more likely, over filled).
 
Tator said:
I wish I had ANY side affects to know that ive actually gotten Reta. Only side affect was no appetite for 2 days at 0.5mg. After that and titrating up too quickly, I have no side affects (week 5 and today, 6, I pinned 5mg). I am a big dude thoigh so not sure if that plays a role (6ft 290lbs). But I dont even have appetite suppression at this dose. Makes me thing I got either flaked by them or something idk.
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Getting past side effects would seem like a normal and reasonable goal though with your fast escalation you may still have some to deal with in the coming weeks. Protocol is doubling the starting dose every 4 weeks, once you leave the tracks you don't know what's coming next.
No mention of weight loss or the lack of, are you tracking this?
Did you get baseline blood work when you started for comparison?
What are your goals?
Cut yourself some slack, give the pep and your body time to work together.
The conditions we are treating didn't suddenly appear overnight, it takes time to properly address them.
 
RetCurious said:
Getting past side effects would seem like a normal and reasonable goal though with your fast escalation you may still have some to deal with in the coming weeks. Protocol is doubling the starting dose every 4 weeks, once you leave the tracks you don't know what's coming next.
No mention of weight loss or the lack of, are you tracking this?
Did you get baseline blood work when you started for comparison?
What are your goals?
Cut yourself some slack, give the pep and your body time to work together.
The conditions we are treating didn't suddenly appear overnight, it takes time to properly address them.
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I weigh myself everyday. I've been balancing between 292-295 for the past 6 weeks, not a pound above or below
I workout 4-5 days a week strength training and take a few different vitamins.
Bloodwork was mostly normal before starting. Just high cholesterol.
My goal is to get down to at least 220lbs.
 
Retazempic said:
I hear many ppl don’t get a result until 6mg, and others don’t see a result until 8 or 9mg. So you still have runway to titrate up.

Did you ever take another GLP1 that you can compare with?

Is your Reta cloudy or clear after reconstitution? If cloudy, it might be ineffective.

You should consider joining a test group
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Ive never taken another GLP1 before.
My Reta is always clear. Im lucky the BAC water from the same vendor has been making it clear.
I guess ill have to wait n see when I titrate up.
 
RetCurious said:
Getting past side effects would seem like a normal and reasonable goal though with your fast escalation you may still have some to deal with in the coming weeks. Protocol is doubling the starting dose every 4 weeks, once you leave the tracks you don't know what's coming next.
No mention of weight loss or the lack of, are you tracking this?
Did you get baseline blood work when you started for comparison?
What are your goals?
Cut yourself some slack, give the pep and your body time to work together.
The conditions we are treating didn't suddenly appear overnight, it takes time to properly address them.
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To add on to this. I pinned 8mg 3 times and with no side affects. Im going to have to test my vials because its probably not reta and probably tb 500
 
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