Good peptides to stack with Reta for Muscle growth

[Airborne Daddy]

Tren e 200mg

 

[Devilseye]

Thank you for the detailed response, I'm gathering, correct me if I'm wrong, that for muscle growth alone it is likely not worth it - you can see for reta for example it is well worth it for weight loss ( as I've experienced myself) but CJC ipamorelin from these responses doesn't seem to give that big benefit (unless I'm wrong)

Honestly secretagogues and hgh are not gonna give you dramatic results on muscle growth like test can. Test might be boring but its tried and tested for muscle growth. Just do short cycles and youll be fine.

Insulin-like Growth Factor 1 Long Arg3—better known as IGF‑1 LR3—is a modified version of the naturally occurring IGF‑1 hormone, prized for its ability to increase muscle hypertrophy, enhance recovery, and promote cellular growth. With a longer half-life and enhanced potency compared to standard IGF‑1, LR3 has quickly become a go-to peptide for athletes looking to build muscle, retain gains after a cycle, or accelerate healing. It can be used along side CJC-1295 no dac / Ipamorelin (which I'm taking) It can mess with your blood sugar a little, be careful on dosing and it needs to be mixed with Acetic Acid 0.6% to hold up in the fridge longer, compared to Bac water.

IGF-1 is also not as potent for muscle growth as you may think. It does not directly affect hypertrophy but simply promotes cellular growth. This should cause alarms bells because IGF-1 is known to be associated with a variety of cancers and high IGF-1 gives poor prognosis. IGF-1 is to me strictly in the too risky category. Id even rather try HGH than that.

 

[miameow]

TLDR: there are no peptides that directly affect muscle growth. There are peptides that will help you recover better, sleep better, push harder, etc.

 

[RENjutsu]

Honestly secretagogues and hgh are not gonna give you dramatic results on muscle growth like test can. Test might be boring but its tried and tested for muscle growth. Just do short cycles and youll be fine.



IGF-1 is also not as potent for muscle growth as you may think. It does not directly affect hypertrophy but simply promotes cellular growth. This should cause alarms bells because IGF-1 is known to be associated with a variety of cancers and high IGF-1 gives poor prognosis. IGF-1 is to me strictly in the too risky category. Id even rather try HGH than that.

Ive always heard that test messes up your natural production and even short cycles are worthless, will you not lose the majority of the muscle mass when you come off a cycle?

 

[Ryanking11]

The cancer risks associated with hgh are a concern. I'd be keen to read up on some independent research. What I've read puts me off hgh . However I would like to understand if there is an ultra safe lower limit that has no cancer risk

Same for myself - I found the same from IGF LR3 too

 

[chonkkk]

Ive always heard that test messes up your natural production and even short cycles are worthless, will you not lose the majority of the muscle mass when you come off a cycle?

It will for sure mess with your production. You can go on HCG while using test and after discontinuing but there's no guarantee your production will be at the same level.

 

[Llanitox]

Ive always heard that test messes up your natural production and even short cycles are worthless, will you not lose the majority of the muscle mass when you come off a cycle?

Ok so yes it does mess up your natural production. However you can either run doses of HCG at the same time or follow a very strict PCT.

Whilst you do lose some muscle mass you can curtail this If you dial in your PCT and nutrition. You will still lose some mass ( mostly water weight) but not as much as if you did nothing at all .

 

[morti]

Great discussion, currently on reta & cjc + ipa, hopefully will start to see some body recomp in the coming few months

 

[petros600]

Low dose of 1-2IU of HGH x 5/week it helps out. From my research, troubles starts at a higher doses and ignoring blood work

 

[Troposphere]

Great discussion, currently on reta & cjc + ipa, hopefully will start to see some body recomp in the coming few months

Looking forward to hearing how the CJC/IPA work for you. I am thinking about starting these in about five weeks when work slows down and I can deal with the possibility of sleep interruption.