Worried about vendors not carrying

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So this is something I've noticed and been thinking about since I started shopping grey, but it seems to me like a lot of vendors don't offer semaglutide. I just posted in another thread about this, but it makes a lot of sense from a price standpoint. Semaglutide is way, way cheaper than any other GLP peptide. That, plus the fact that a lot of people have switched to different options, means there's not a lot of reason for vendors to stock it.

This sucks a lot for people like me who've only ever used sema, only want to use sema, and have been incredibly successful on it. I've been using it for several years now, lost over 100 pounds in the first year, and have been in maintenance since. For the vast majority of that time period, I was only using 1mg. I think I went up to 2 for a couple months in the beginning, when I was following the regular titration schedule, but I realized the benefits (for me) of using more weren't really there, so I dropped back down. I don't get side effects at all, as far as I can remember. I certainly don't have any now.

To alleviate my fears of vendors just completely not offering it anymore, I'm planning on buying a couple 30mg kits which would last me almost a decade on my current dose. Of course, I also provide for my little sister who's on 3mg a week, so that'll drastically cut down the amount of time I'll get out of a kit...but if need be, I can switch her to tirzepatide. I've held off on that because sema is so much cheaper and I'm buying peptides for me, her, and my girlfriend, so it adds up quick lol.

To people who've been doing this longer, do you think my fears are unfounded? Is this actually something to be worried about? It just seems like any time someone makes a thread about wanting to switch to sema or add it to a stack, a bunch of people jump in and talk about why it's a bad idea and they should just use tirze instead. I feel like that's doing a lot of legwork for vendors who would rather sell a 60mg kit of tirze for $250 than a 10mg kit of sema for $50. But maybe I'm just cynical and paranoid, who knows.
 
So this is something I've noticed and been thinking about since I started shopping grey, but it seems to me like a lot of vendors don't offer semaglutide. I just posted in another thread about this, but it makes a lot of sense from a price standpoint. Semaglutide is way, way cheaper than any other GLP peptide. That, plus the fact that a lot of people have switched to different options, means there's not a lot of reason for vendors to stock it.

This sucks a lot for people like me who've only ever used sema, only want to use sema, and have been incredibly successful on it. I've been using it for several years now, lost over 100 pounds in the first year, and have been in maintenance since. For the vast majority of that time period, I was only using 1mg. I think I went up to 2 for a couple months in the beginning, when I was following the regular titration schedule, but I realized the benefits (for me) of using more weren't really there, so I dropped back down. I don't get side effects at all, as far as I can remember. I certainly don't have any now.

To alleviate my fears of vendors just completely not offering it anymore, I'm planning on buying a couple 30mg kits which would last me almost a decade on my current dose. Of course, I also provide for my little sister who's on 3mg a week, so that'll drastically cut down the amount of time I'll get out of a kit...but if need be, I can switch her to tirzepatide. I've held off on that because sema is so much cheaper and I'm buying peptides for me, her, and my girlfriend, so it adds up quick lol.

To people who've been doing this longer, do you think my fears are unfounded? Is this actually something to be worried about? It just seems like any time someone makes a thread about wanting to switch to sema or add it to a stack, a bunch of people jump in and talk about why it's a bad idea and they should just use tirze instead. I feel like that's doing a lot of legwork for vendors who would rather sell a 60mg kit of tirze for $250 than a 10mg kit of sema for $50. But maybe I'm just cynical and paranoid, who knows.

Don’t know what you are talking about, all the vendors I use carry it.
 
I have seen the same trend with sema as you, it has gone from all the lists to much fewer.
I think it is a valid concern if you do not want to change in the future.

I also think at some point the same will occur with Tirz (or similar)
Too much money in coming out with the latest I phone to keep selling old models.. and apparently some fairly drastic improvements on later GLP1s and the like.
 
So this is something I've noticed and been thinking about since I started shopping grey, but it seems to me like a lot of vendors don't offer semaglutide. I just posted in another thread about this, but it makes a lot of sense from a price standpoint. Semaglutide is way, way cheaper than any other GLP peptide. That, plus the fact that a lot of people have switched to different options, means there's not a lot of reason for vendors to stock it.

This sucks a lot for people like me who've only ever used sema, only want to use sema, and have been incredibly successful on it. I've been using it for several years now, lost over 100 pounds in the first year, and have been in maintenance since. For the vast majority of that time period, I was only using 1mg. I think I went up to 2 for a couple months in the beginning, when I was following the regular titration schedule, but I realized the benefits (for me) of using more weren't really there, so I dropped back down. I don't get side effects at all, as far as I can remember. I certainly don't have any now.

To alleviate my fears of vendors just completely not offering it anymore, I'm planning on buying a couple 30mg kits which would last me almost a decade on my current dose. Of course, I also provide for my little sister who's on 3mg a week, so that'll drastically cut down the amount of time I'll get out of a kit...but if need be, I can switch her to tirzepatide. I've held off on that because sema is so much cheaper and I'm buying peptides for me, her, and my girlfriend, so it adds up quick lol.

To people who've been doing this longer, do you think my fears are unfounded? Is this actually something to be worried about? It just seems like any time someone makes a thread about wanting to switch to sema or add it to a stack, a bunch of people jump in and talk about why it's a bad idea and they should just use tirze instead. I feel like that's doing a lot of legwork for vendors who would rather sell a 60mg kit of tirze for $250 than a 10mg kit of sema for $50. But maybe I'm just cynical and paranoid, who knows.
https://nexaph.com/product/nxp-1p-10-vials-kit/
 
Almost all the vendors advertise having semaglutide, so I am a bit confused , have you tried to order it , but they do not have it in stock? It is super common for vendors to put just about everything on their lists but only actually stock the more common or popular items.
 
I have seen the same trend with sema as you, it has gone from all the lists to much fewer.
I think it is a valid concern if you do not want to change in the future.

I also think at some point the same will occur with Tirz (or similar)
Too much money in coming out with the latest I phone to keep selling old models.. and apparently some fairly drastic improvements on later GLP1s and the like.

That's pretty much how I think about it, the phone model is very apt. I'm not saying of course that no one will carry it, just as you can still buy older gen phone if you look hard enough. I'd be kind of surprised if it happened to Tirze though as a lot of people seem to really like it -- it doesn't seem to have the odd reaction where people talk about how bad it is. But also, I'm not looking so much in those threads because my girlfriend is the only one taking it so I don't have much interest in it other that how it's working for her.


Yep, that's who I currently use, which is why I specified about grey. I know (basically) all resellers still carry it, but I feel like there's a bit of a difference between buying direct from China and a third party. Also part of my reason for looking for a different vendor is I want to buy larger kits, as my sister is on 3mg, so a 10mg vial now lasts us less three weeks.

Almost all the vendors advertise having semaglutide, so I am a bit confused , have you tried to order it , but they do not have it in stock? It is super common for vendors to put just about everything on their lists but only actually stock the more common or popular items.

I've seen quite a few who don't list it at all, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong spots. And tbh, I'm really only looking for 20mg+ kits, so if they only list 10mg or smaller, I probably ignored it. I haven't reached out to anyone yet since I still have two 10mg kits in my freezer and I'm still trying to figure out crypto lol -- by that I mean I need to get my ID renewed, I have everything else sorted.
 
That's pretty much how I think about it, the phone model is very apt. I'm not saying of course that no one will carry it, just as you can still buy older gen phone if you look hard enough. I'd be kind of surprised if it happened to Tirze though as a lot of people seem to really like it -- it doesn't seem to have the odd reaction where people talk about how bad it is. But also, I'm not looking so much in those threads because my girlfriend is the only one taking it so I don't have much interest in it other that how it's working for her.



Yep, that's who I currently use, which is why I specified about grey. I know (basically) all resellers still carry it, but I feel like there's a bit of a difference between buying direct from China and a third party. Also part of my reason for looking for a different vendor is I want to buy larger kits, as my sister is on 3mg, so a 10mg vial now lasts us less three weeks.



I've seen quite a few who don't list it at all, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong spots. And tbh, I'm really only looking for 20mg+ kits, so if they only list 10mg or smaller, I probably ignored it. I haven't reached out to anyone yet since I still have two 10mg kits in my freezer and I'm still trying to figure out crypto lol -- by that I mean I need to get my ID renewed, I have everything else sorted.
What's that now?? why I specified about grey.

Do you think nexaph is not grey? Do you think china means you're buying direct from the manufacturer? All these sellers are 2nd, third or fourth party resellers of grey!
 
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Once cagrisema gets the FDA stamp of approval, it'd be all the MORE reason for vendors to carry Sema, and start carrying cagri. (Unless they're just going to formulate a combo, in which case ignore what I just said 😆)
 
What's that now?? why I specified about grey.

Do you think nexaph is not grey? Do you think china means you're buying direct from the manufacturer? All these sellers are 2nd, third or fourth party resellers.
I (personally) consider nexaph in particular in a weird category. He's an American reseller but his prices are much better than the others and he sells kits. Honestly, if he offered 30mg kits I probably wouldn't even be looking for a new vendor. But I asked and he said it's not something he's interested in doing, so here I am.

The language we use in this space is weird and complicated, but here's the way I phrase it -- grey = direct from China. Not the manufacturer, obviously. I understand everyone is buying and selling and buying and selling. But the closer you get to the source, the more you can cut out the middlemen, the less overhead you'll pay. Then I use resellers for everyone else, basically anyone who buys thousands of kits at a time, slaps a label on it, and claims it as their own. Those are the people that have much more incentive to continue offering semaglutide because they can charge so much more than a grey vendor can. Even nexaph with good prices still charges $200 for a 10mg kit, instead of the <$60 if you buy grey.

Obviously the distinction isn't perfect or even really correct, as they're all resellers, but that's the way I think about it at least.

Oh, also, completely unrelated -- I love your dog and you're what inspired me to put my dog as my profile picture lmao. So thank you!
 
I (personally) consider nexaph in particular in a weird category. He's an American reseller but his prices are much better than the others and he sells kits. Honestly, if he offered 30mg kits I probably wouldn't even be looking for a new vendor. But I asked and he said it's not something he's interested in doing, so here I am.

The language we use in this space is weird and complicated, but here's the way I phrase it -- grey = direct from China. Not the manufacturer, obviously. I understand everyone is buying and selling and buying and selling. But the closer you get to the source, the more you can cut out the middlemen, the less overhead you'll pay. Then I use resellers for everyone else, basically anyone who buys thousands of kits at a time, slaps a label on it, and claims it as their own. Those are the people that have much more incentive to continue offering semaglutide because they can charge so much more than a grey vendor can. Even nexaph with good prices still charges $200 for a 10mg kit, instead of the >$60 if you buy grey.

Obviously the distinction isn't perfect or even really correct, as they're all resellers, but that's the way I think about it at least.

Oh, also, completely unrelated -- I love your dog and you're what inspired me to put my dog as my profile picture lmao. So thank you!
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It is just an opinion of mine, or perhaps a guess.
We saw nothing available in the market unless diabetic, then we saw Sema, then Tirz just a short time after. Now Reta is not even approved yet and we are seeing developments like Eloralintide.

Folks are stocking 3-4-5 even 10 years + of GLP1s and other peptides.
Vendors will primarily stock what is selling, it won't be this year or the next, but as fast as we see this moving Sema could be considered obsolete before many of us run out of freezer stash.
 
...Semaglutide is way, way cheaper than any other GLP peptide...

I figure you saw it in the other thread, but reposting it here.
Using your numbers for Sema 30mg=$12 per vial.
30mg/2.4mg week = 12.5 weeks. $12/12.5= $.96/week

My numbers for Tirz, 140mg=$20
140mg/15mg week= 9.3 weeks. $20/9.3 weeks= $2.15/week

My numbers for Reta, 140mg= $32
140mg/12mg week= 11.6 weeks. $32/11.6 weeks= $2.76/week

$2.76-$.96= $1.80 x 52 weeks in the year= $93.60/year in difference, high to low. That's an irrelevant difference to me.


...This sucks a lot for people like me who've only ever used sema, only want to use sema, and have been incredibly successful on it. I've been using it for several years now, lost over 100 pounds in the first year, and have been in maintenance since. For the vast majority of that time period, I was only using 1mg. I think I went up to 2 for a couple months in the beginning, when I was following the regular titration schedule, but I realized the benefits (for me) of using more weren't really there, so I dropped back down. I don't get side effects at all, as far as I can remember. I certainly don't have any now...

I'm a fan of sticking with what works/dancing with the one that brought you. If you're not having symptoms, why change? From your other posts you've been very successful with Sema, you might as well have a plan in place to stick with it.
...To alleviate my fears of vendors just completely not offering it anymore, I'm planning on buying a couple 30mg kits which would last me almost a decade on my current dose...

Don't forget reconstituted vial life... it's a risk tolerance thing, my loose general guideline is 10 weeks (I've never used a vial that long). I've recently started taking .25mg/week of Sema, so 5mg vials are wasteful with that 10 week guideline. Using 10 week reconstituted life, a decade would need 52 vials to span that time.

...I can switch her to tirzepatide. I've held off on that because sema is so much cheaper and I'm buying peptides for me, her, and my girlfriend, so it adds up quick lol...

Finances are a personal thing, but if you're trying to stock up, Reta and Tirz should be considerably under $.50/mg... I posted my numbers earlier for bulk vials.

To people who've been doing this longer, do you think my fears are unfounded? Is this actually something to be worried about?

I wouldn't worry about it; I would plan and act accordingly. While I like using what works, I'm also a techie and like novel things. I also like having options/being prepared; buy it cheap, stack it deep. That's why I have years of Sema, Tirz, Reta, Cagri, and Elora on hand/order. I'm hopefully 4-5 months from my optimistic target weight.


I (personally) consider nexaph in particular in a weird category. He's an American reseller but his prices are much better than the others and he sells kits. Honestly, if he offered 30mg kits I probably wouldn't even be looking for a new vendor...

Nexaph pricing is hotdog water. While typing this post I ordered 5 kits of S5 for $243 delivered from a US warehouse. They only go up to S15 for $75, but Nexaph is $198 for S10. If I was only taking 1-2mg/week, I would not be interested in S30.
 

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