Peptide Testing With A Local University

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Anyone here work with their local university for their testing needs? I am not sure how much it will cost but they appear to have a very reasonable hourly rate and from what I understand pharmaceuticals like acetaminophen and ibuprofen take about 15 minutes to analyze. If I can make it work it seems like it would be a very good option based on price and proximity.
 

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Anyone here work with their local university for their testing needs? I am not sure how much it will cost but they appear to have a very reasonable hourly rate and from what I understand pharmaceuticals like acetaminophen and ibuprofen take about 15 minutes to analyze. If I can make it work it seems like it would be a very good option based on price and proximity.
I would steer clear from anything with government ties that your name will be attached to.
 
@Revo39564, I just saw your post in another thread. Can you tell me how you established this relationship and what they needed from you to make it work?

I pay a college to test the amino acid sequence and the total mg of tirzepatide…. $108… I don’t care about it being 99 percent … that would be a more expensive test anyway.
 
@Revo39564, I just saw your post in another thread. Can you tell me how you established this relationship and what they needed from you to make it work?
I am a Nurse practitioner . I contacted the university proteomics department for amino acid sequencing of compounded tirz …. He had never done that … I gave him tirz molecular weight, AA sequence and we discussed how to proceed … my boss let me use our clinic to setup an institutional account with the university. They can do the hplc testing for 300 $ but I am content with AA sequencing for $108… being an NP I am able to order medical supplies easily.. it is helpful …. I have used Janoshik and peptide test too. I double tested a bath with Janoshik and the university to. Similar mg results
 
I am a Nurse practitioner . I contacted the university proteomics department for amino acid sequencing of compounded tirz …. He had never done that … I gave him tirz molecular weight, AA sequence and we discussed how to proceed … my boss let me use our clinic to setup an institutional account with the university. They can do the hplc testing for 300 $ but I am content with AA sequencing for $108… being an NP I am able to order medical supplies easily.. it is helpful …. I have used Janoshik and peptide test too. I double tested a bath with Janoshik and the university to. Similar mg results

Seems like you are much more connected than the average person. That route might not work for me 🤔.

Thanks for the quick reply!
 
On a related note @Revo39564 , I recall you posting about a diy sterility test you did awhile ago. Is that something you think anyone could do, or do you have access to special equipment or connections through your medical background. Any info is appreciated, thanks.
 
On a related note @Revo39564 , I recall you posting about a diy sterility test you did awhile ago. Is that something you think anyone could do, or do you have access to special equipment or connections through your medical background. Any info is appreciated, thanks.
Yes anyone could do it….. bought agar paste off of amazon…. Bought Tupperware tray to put the agar plates into and used a seed mat to and bbq thermometer to make the plates 95-99 degrees. Was a little to hot so I put a porcelain plate on the seed mat and the Tupperware on top of it….. easy to do a swab a plate …I learned to do it in my microbiology classes but YouTube is great … but I used sterile water with no preservative to reconstitute the peptide…… I have a microscope around to teach my kids
 
Awesome, anytime we can shed some light on what we are injecting without spending hundreds is a win in my book.

Did you have to use an entire vial for thi
Awesome, anytime we can shed some light on what we are injecting without spending hundreds is a win in my book.

Did you have to use an entire vial for this?
No I used a small amount left over from a shot I think 0.2 ml … diluted the vial with 1 ml of sterile water. Nothing ever grew……. Once I did a nasal swab and it grew out fungi .. a bit scary
 
Thanks again revo. I don't want to hijack this thread any further, but if you have some time, this might warrant its own thread. With all the recent sterility fails, I would think alot of people would be interested in this.

I agree that this could be very helpful. I've actually been thinking about ordering a microbiological screening from Vanguard instead of a sterility test. IMHO sterility is a very high bar and actually not particularly useful for our purposes unless we are severely immunocompromised. It would be more useful to know if a product contains harmful microorganisms.

So maybe my new personal process looks like this:

DIY sterility test at home>
If it passes and I also know that the purity is good I go on my way>
If it fails I send it off for a microbiological screening>
If the results of the screening are okay I can keep it and use as is or filter>
If results are spooky I toss it
 
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Thanks again revo. I don't want to hijack this thread any further, but if you have some time, this might warrant its own thread. With all the recent sterility fails, I would think alot of people would be interested in this.
Agree this would be a great thread on its own partly because educating people more on this topic is important before they rush out to buy the supplies with zero understanding of sterile technique and then try to hang a vendor for having a contaminated product when they were the problem.

Micro labs have special equipment and ventilation that might be used for these things because even a mote of dust carries bacteria. Even invisible droplets from your breath carry them. The entire environment including the sky is just filled with mold, viruses and bacteria. I like the idea of the testing but I am picturing someone not washing their hands, their cat running around while they run their samples and then showing the community the horrible evidence that So-and-so vendor sells dangerous product.
 
Agree this would be a great thread on its own partly because educating people more on this topic is important before they rush out to buy the supplies with zero understanding of sterile technique and then try to hang a vendor for having a contaminated product when they were the problem.

Micro labs have special equipment and ventilation that might be used for these things because even a mote of dust carries bacteria. Even invisible droplets from your breath carry them. The entire environment including the sky is just filled with mold, viruses and bacteria. I like the idea of the testing but I am picturing someone not washing their hands, their cat running around while they run their samples and then showing the community the horrible evidence that So-and-so vendor sells dangerous product.

Really good call out. Didn't want to give the impression that I was going to run out and buy some petri dishes on Amazon then start experimenting.

There is a scientist on YouTube who does experiments to test the efficacy of cleaning products in her home and she's talked about her setup and procedures before. I was going to borrow her tools and methodology and see if I can get simple things right before I jumped straight to peptides.
 
Agree this would be a great thread on its own partly because educating people more on this topic is important before they rush out to buy the supplies with zero understanding of sterile technique and then try to hang a vendor for having a contaminated product when they were the problem.

Micro labs have special equipment and ventilation that might be used for these things because even a mote of dust carries bacteria. Even invisible droplets from your breath carry them. The entire environment including the sky is just filled with mold, viruses and bacteria. I like the idea of the testing but I am picturing someone not washing their hands, their cat running around while they run their samples and then showing the community the horrible evidence that So-and-so vendor sells dangerous product.
I sanitize my area with bleach solution . The agar plates can only be open for a couple seconds. Place in ziplock bags. Tupperware in dishwasher and then soaked in bleach. plates stored upside down…… always do a control plate at the same time….. but realistically you could have contaminated the sample when reconstituting too.
 
meone not washing their hands, their cat running around while they run their samples and then showing the community the horrible evidence that So-and-so vendor sells dangerous product.
Most vendors have at least 1 sterility fail by now from actual labs, so I doubt a diy sterility fail could really change anything there. I doubt people would take diy test failing that seriously.

I really don't want to hijack this thread, but for the sake of clarification, i know there is alot of contraversy about a vendor i will not name and their sterility fail right now. The contraversy has more to do with evidence of them trying to tamper and interfere with the test, rather than the test itself. I don't see a DIY sterility fail causing anything like that.

Apologies if that is not what you were thinking with this comment, but in case it was I wanted to clarify. I'll leave it there.
 
Most vendors have at least 1 sterility fail by now from actual labs, so I doubt a diy sterility fail could really change anything there. I doubt people would take diy test failing that seriously.

I really don't want to hijack this thread, but for the sake of clarification, i know there is alot of contraversy about a vendor i will not name and their sterility fail right now. The contraversy has more to do with evidence of them trying to tamper and interfere with the test, rather than the test itself. I don't see a DIY sterility fail causing anything like that.

Apologies if that is not what you were thinking with this comment, but in case it was I wanted to clarify. I'll leave it there.
I don’t trust a pass/ fail sterility test. Also a culture will not grow endotoxins. I would want an actual endotoxin count or bacterial count
 
If you are doing subQ injections, then what is the risk if not sterile? Rash, irritation, loss of efficacy?
 
If you are doing subQ injections, then what is the risk if not sterile? Rash, irritation, loss of efficacy?

I'd guess a local infection. Risks would be higher with immunocompromised individuals.

Anyone here work with their local university for their testing needs? I am not sure how much it will cost but they appear to have a very reasonable hourly rate and from what I understand pharmaceuticals like acetaminophen and ibuprofen take about 15 minutes to analyze. If I can make it work it seems like it would be a very good option based on price and proximity.

Can they test for TFA? Endotoxin tests are also interesting. But I think HPLC can detect TFA.

I'm not clear on the risks posed by the presence of TFA other than the USP allowable amount of 0.05%.

I'm guessing most of the stuff is higher than that. Again, unclear on the risks at the dosages we're taking or anything else.
 
Most vendors have at least 1 sterility fail by now from actual labs, so I doubt a diy sterility fail could really change anything there. I doubt people would take diy test failing that seriously.

I really don't want to hijack this thread, but for the sake of clarification, i know there is alot of contraversy about a vendor i will not name and their sterility fail right now. The contraversy has more to do with evidence of them trying to tamper and interfere with the test, rather than the test itself. I don't see a DIY sterility fail causing anything like that.

Apologies if that is not what you were thinking with this comment, but in case it was I wanted to clarify. I'll leave it there.
Endotoxin contamination would be a risk there is an acceptable limit for sq dosing ….. sq is low risk. I have seen some really bad infections from sq insulin and IV drug use .. mostly severe diabetics reusing needles and iIV drug addicts shooting up dirty water and many years ago bath salts …..
 
I'd guess a local infection. Risks would be higher with immunocompromised individuals.



Can they test for TFA? Endotoxin tests are also interesting. But I think HPLC can detect TFA.

I'm not clear on the risks posed by the presence of TFA other than the USP allowable amount of 0.05%.

I'm guessing most of the stuff is higher than that. Again, unclear on the risks at the dosages we're taking or anything else.

I am not sure but the university offers a range of services. They might be able to identify TFA. I do know that vanguard offers microbiological screenings that include endotoxins, so you might want to contact them if that's a concern.

Wondering if I should just buy my own HPLC at this point 🤔
 
Really good call out. Didn't want to give the impression that I was going to run out and buy some petri dishes on Amazon then start experimenting.

There is a scientist on YouTube who does experiments to test the efficacy of cleaning products in her home and she's talked about her setup and procedures before. I was going to borrow her tools and methodology and see if I can get simple things right before I jumped straight to peptides.
I guess that did seem kinda like a call out on my part, I know you didn't seem to take offense but it seems my comment may have been sort of abrasive. Apologies if so! I'm not always good at watching my tone with text. ♥
 
I don’t trust a pass/ fail sterility test. Also a culture will not grow endotoxins. I would want an actual endotoxin count or bacterial count
How effective do you think filtering would be? I had considered filtering when reconstituting, but knowing my own lack of attention to detail it might be better to do it per dose. My hope is that it's reasonably effective against most scary stuff
 
How effective do you think filtering would be? I had considered filtering when reconstituting, but knowing my own lack of attention to detail it might be better to do it per dose. My hope is that it's reasonably effective against most scary stuff
A regular 22 micron PES filter will get most bacteria and fungi……: endotoxins will usually pass though it. The more expensive filters that have a “positive charge” will remove endotoxins well but are much more expensive
 
I am a Nurse practitioner . I contacted the university proteomics department for amino acid sequencing of compounded tirz …. He had never done that … I gave him tirz molecular weight, AA sequence and we discussed how to proceed … my boss let me use our clinic to setup an institutional account with the university. They can do the hplc testing for 300 $ but I am content with AA sequencing for $108… being an NP I am able to order medical supplies easily.. it is helpful …. I have used Janoshik and peptide test too. I double tested a bath with Janoshik and the university to. Similar mg results
Hi what vendor did you purchase from?
 
Purchase what? The filters ? Newstar on Alibaba
Sorry, no I meant the Tirz, I know you said you sent compounded tirz for testing but I was wondering if you used a CN vendor for pure lyophilized tirz or you just order from the compounding pharmacy
 

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