"HCG monotherapy" – I tried it so you didn't have to!

[reta-stacker]

Lol I have, but truth be told I don't think I need it.

I found out it was retrograde ejaculation from masturbating while lying down. How embarassing!

No fuss, no muss.

 

[gusterbuster]

Arguably, most of us don't need a testosterone boost anyway. I am happy with my normal testosterone level, using just reta now. Formerly hypogonadal before losing 50+ pounds

Need and want are two separate things.

My outlook is, life is too short not to be optimized. My levels prior were 650, and man life is just better 900-1200. Life is just better. More assertive and cofindent, although arguably never had an issue and some might prefer me more docile so they aren't challenged, lol. Sex drive, borderline problematic and may or may not ask a few different women to marry me every day. Better recovery, better cardio, and just better outlook on life.

 

[gusterbuster]

250iu 3x a week is generally considered to be maintainence for keeping the testes active.

This is what i use on trt. But likely higher as all COAs I've seen in Grey HCG are like 30 percent over fills.

 

[FartfulCodger]

A little off topic but still kinda on topic...lol!
Do you guys know if Enclomiphene is helpfull when you are already on test?

I think that would create too much testosterone, depending on doses, of course. HCG is the thing that is often prescribed alongside testosterone therapy, because when your body detects too much testosterone, it shuts down its own endogenous production. HCG is the thing that tells your body to keep creating it.

 

[gusterbuster]

Do you guys know if Enclomiphene is helpfull when you are already on test?

The first question should always be, what are you hoping to accomplish?

And I can't think of anything to accomplish, adding Enclomiphene to test

 

[eidos]

It sounds like you would agree that HCG monotherapy is a bust...

I'm too much of a coward to have opinions. /j

 

[jamesprt]

When it comes to fertility and actively trying to conceive, a more intensive HCG protocol may be necessary, despite the hormonal side effects it can cause. However, if the goal is simply to maintain testicular function over the long term, a low dose twice a week is usually sufficient, depending on the HCG concentration. I'm currently taking HCG 5,000 IU, injecting 10 units twice a week.

 

[birdwhacker]

When it comes to fertility and actively trying to conceive, a more intensive HCG protocol may be necessary, despite the hormonal side effects it can cause. However, if the goal is simply to maintain testicular function over the long term, a low dose twice a week is usually sufficient, depending on the HCG concentration. I'm currently taking HCG 5,000 IU, injecting 10 units twice a week.

10 units isn't a dosage lol. We have no idea how much you're taking.

 

[jamesprt]

10 units isn't a dosage lol. We have no idea how much you're taking.

500iu 2x week

 

[Calm Logic]

My outlook is, life is too short not to be optimized.

Of course, not optimal for longevity. Hence the YOLO argument all the time (and trying to manage higher hematocrit or explain it away, and the lack of cardiovascular imaging at Meso). The ideal would be something optimal for lifespan as well, which is more the domain of peptides.

Certainly, long-term supraphysiological testosterone is a known cardiovascular risk at the cellular and structural level. The only question is how much, even with perfect bloodwork.