CJC/IPA Vs HGH

[tomokkerpro]

Been running HGH for a few months but because of the price hikes consider switching to CJC/IPA. Anyone else done the same, or vice versa, and have any comments?

If you look at Reddit or Meso they all seem to think HGH is like The Holy Grail!

37m, and not on Test, if it makes any odds!

 

[nkresho]

I'm the other way around. I'm already on trt though. 45mm here and lighting heavy >3x weekly. I only just started cjc/ipa. I plan on running a blast in the fall or early winter with gh.

Being that the cjc/ipa is encouraging natural gh production it's very sensitive to insulin. As in, you shouldn't eat hours (like 3 if you're on a glp) before taking it. And at least 30+ mins to an hour after.

Like I said I'm pretty early on though, just about a week in. I am realizing a bit better sleep. Recovery benefits it's just a bit too early to know.

From my reading and video watching it seems side effects may be less with the cjc/ipa but the benefits may also be less.

I'll run it a bit and see how I like it though.

A lot of the info from the bodybuilder side is that you really need test alongside either to see noteworthy muscle gains. Gh helps repair faster and build new muscle fibers but test grows those fibers bigger.

 

[miameow]

Is there really a price hike? I'm still paying about the same as I always have.

From an ROI perspective, GH blows any secretagogue out of the water. Unless you're running well above the typical 1–4iu/day range, it's really not that expensive. It ends up being around 50c per iu.

 

[nkresho]

Gray pricing of gh is around ( or most likely better than) $70 per 100iu. At 4iu a day that's $70/25 it comes to $2.80 a day.

Gray Price for 100mg cjc $145+100mg ipa $80=$225. Standard daily dose is like 250mcg each so 500mcg total. 200mg/500mcg=400 days. 225/400= $0.56 a day

 

[LabRatts]

They are two different things run for two different reasons .
If you can make GH naturally (via CJC/Ipa is still naturally) then do that, if not, then use HGH. It’s really simple.

 

[nkresho]

Not quite like hormone replacement though. Everybody has a pituitary and everybody makes gh, though it does decline with age.

GH injections force a specific saturation. Cjc/ipa initiates your pituitary to secrete it.

Less side effects is really the benefit for cjc/ipa.

People grow shoe and glove sizes with prolonged gh use. Swelling of the hands and feet. All kinds of stuff

 

[Troposphere]

I ran CJC/Ipa for a month at 250mcg twice a day. Blood work came back with IGF-1 at 124ng/mL and a Z-score of -0.3 (51M).

Switched to HGH at 2.5IU/ day two weeks ago and will get blood work done in two weeks from now. I will report back what happens

 

[bay_area_schizo]

I'm the other way around. I'm already on trt though. 45mm here and lighting heavy >3x weekly. I only just started cjc/ipa. I plan on running a blast in the fall or early winter with gh.

Being that the cjc/ipa is encouraging natural gh production it's very sensitive to insulin. As in, you shouldn't eat hours (like 3 if you're on a glp) before taking it. And at least 30+ mins to an hour after.

Like I said I'm pretty early on though, just about a week in. I am realizing a bit better sleep. Recovery benefits it's just a bit too early to know.

From my reading and video watching it seems side effects may be less with the cjc/ipa but the benefits may also be less.

I'll run it a bit and see how I like it though.

A lot of the info from the bodybuilder side is that you really need test alongside either to see noteworthy muscle gains. Gh helps repair faster and build new muscle fibers but test grows those fibers bigger.

did you have any mood swings on hgh? may I ask what dose you were on? and also are you doing both hgh and cjc ipa?

 

[CNCCurrency]

Not quite like hormone replacement though. Everybody has a pituitary and everybody makes gh, though it does decline with age.

GH injections force a specific saturation. Cjc/ipa initiates your pituitary to secrete it.

Less side effects is really the benefit for cjc/ipa.

People grow shoe and glove sizes with prolonged gh use. Swelling of the hands and feet. All kinds of stuff

did you have any mood swings on hgh? may I ask what dose you were on? and also are you doing both hgh and cjc ipa?

I apparently became a nicer person since starting it, so I have been told?

 

[sfkid]

People grow shoe and glove sizes with prolonged gh use. Swelling of the hands and feet. All kinds of stuff

This CAN be true only on super physialogical doses - IU in the teens. 2-4 IU daily is therapeutic with minimal sides.

 

[bay_area_schizo]

I apparently became a nicer person since starting it, so I have been told?

kinda scary cnccurrency making me wonder how mean you were without hgh 🤣

 

[CNCCurrency]

kinda scary cnccurrency making me wonder how mean you were without hgh 🤣

According to my ex a dickhead. Though I still think I am.

 

[nkresho]

did you have any mood swings on hgh? may I ask what dose you were on? and also are you doing both hgh and cjc ipa?

I haven't run the gh yet. Only the cjc/ipa.

I will likely be running the standard 4iu though when I do. I'll probably get labs after a month and adjust up or down to get igf1 where it needs to be.

 

[Retract8740]

I haven't run the gh yet. Only the cjc/ipa.

I will likely be running the standard 4iu though when I do. I'll probably get labs after a month and adjust up or down to get igf1 where it needs to be.

4iu is not the standard and probably not a dose you should jump right in to. You should get your baseline IGF-1 levels, then start at 1-2iu to see how you respond, and then get IGF-1 tested again.

Your dose should be based off of your IGF-1 level and z score, not a blanket 4iu. 4iu could be perfect for one person, but put another at a much higher IGF-1 level and z score.