Getting tired of sticking every day for GLOW. Ready to jump on the pen train. Where do you suggest I begin? Seems the pens are being sold on Aliexpress now. Are those safe? What about the carts? Is there a guide or resource out there for a good beginners guide?
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Jailbreak7
GLP-1 Enthusiast
my suggestion is to start by watching a few of those how to videos.. (tbh that may be all you need, really). as for ordering - you can do aliexpress or maybe "domestic" - pep pen has a really good sale now... and btw those are all same pens .. PS.. don't forget the case.. a really nice thing to have.
stickfigure
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Needles are always sharp - no need to dull them with rubber stopper. It's also a lot easier to dial in the correct number of units. There is very little dead space, so you could use all of the reconstituted peptide without struggling to collect it from under the stopper. The stopper of the cartridge is protected from dirty hands by the needle holder thread, reducing the chance of contamination with bacteria.
It literally takes me 10 seconds to inject with a pen, including handling the needle.
It literally takes me 10 seconds to inject with a pen, including handling the needle.
as @beefsteak points out, it is indeed true that all the domestic places are selling the same pens you can get on alibaba/aliexpress, so if you're not in a hurry you can save a few bucks by getting them that way. there is some skepticism about whether the alibaba cartridges are sterile so you can buy ones that are sterilized by the reseller. the testing server is figuring out whether they are in fact sterile straight from the china source but that hasn't been done yet, so if you're a worrier you'll want to get them from a domestic source that does sterilization. i just get carts off of aliexpress and have lived to tell the tale, though.
if you're going domestic then i highly recommend https://allthingspeptides.com/ for pens and sterilized cartridges (and skins for your pens if you want to get sassy). run buy a good, honest person who is respected in the peptide community. I've purchased from them and it was a great experience.
I get my pen needles on amazon, been very happy with the one-care brand, 32g x 5mm.
if you're going domestic then i highly recommend https://allthingspeptides.com/ for pens and sterilized cartridges (and skins for your pens if you want to get sassy). run buy a good, honest person who is respected in the peptide community. I've purchased from them and it was a great experience.
I get my pen needles on amazon, been very happy with the one-care brand, 32g x 5mm.
Superfluous
GLP-1 Member
Been looking a bit into this myself but feel as if I'm not fully informed yet, or it seems more hassle than its worth vs disposable needles. I can maybe see the advantage for travelling, but the problem is I live on a Mediterranean island and won't have domestic supplies of the cartridges so will constantly need to pay international postage as they're not cheap enough to buy bulk - whereas I can get 100 disposable insulin needles locally for dirt cheap.
It’s the fresh needle that makes the biggest difference for me. There’s some peps I take infrequently so I just normal vial and syringe and the dulling from the viable is so noticeable after using pens the last few months.
I also bought a cheap cartridge holder off of Etsy that hold us up like 4 cartridges at once so filling them has gotten easier as well.
i buy cartridges 100 at a time for $50 shipped to USA from china, so $0.50/pc. once filled, a cartridge will support anywhere from 10-30+ injections depending on the peptide and concentration/dose. Pen needles are cheaper than insulin syringes. So at the end of the day it's not like it's a high cost endeavor, perhaps adding a few cents per injection.
there is definitely a learning curve to filling them, but at this point it only takes me a few minutes and like i said only happens once every 10-30 injections. for me the hassle trade-off is well worth it because i am taking a couple of injections per day, which are significantly streamlined by the pen. If it was one per week I would definitely not bother with pens.
Superfluous
GLP-1 Member
Thanks, I just found the cartridges you speak of on Aliexpress so that's now a legit option for me. I am injecting once per week at the minute but I might be encouraged to go this route if I start stacking, or start buying more concentrated stuff (currently only using 15mg Tirz vials at the minute so would be a bit of a hassle to transfer to pen when I'm only on 7.5mg per week - 60mg vials it would make sense).
GimmeABreak
Rabbit-hole Explorer
I agree it doesn't really make sense for 1x week dosages but you could reconstitute 2-3 vials into one cart and then be good for 4-6 weeks.
echohunter
New Member
Can we trust that these cartridges on Ali Express are actually properly sterilized? Would be nice to find a more legit vendor for these cartridges.
GimmeABreak
Rabbit-hole Explorer
Most of the smaller vendors that sell the pens also sell sterilized cartridges for a few bucks each.
Ok I broke down and loaded my first pen carts. Kind of made a mess of it when the meds bubbled up and out the vent needle. Oops. I do feel good about having the air purged out of the vial. I wonder if having no contact with air makes the contents last longer.
How accurate are these pens you think dosing wise? Has anyone made a test dose and then sucked it into a syringe to measure and compare?
How accurate are these pens you think dosing wise? Has anyone made a test dose and then sucked it into a syringe to measure and compare?
echohunter
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I don’t really know but I’d guess they all come from the same supplier
thepeppen has them. Currently oos but I think you can back order them
I don’t really know but I’d guess they all come from the same supplier
I just took the dive. Bought some from Ali some from peppen. I’ll risk the Chinese vials, haven’t heard any horror stories yet. Though I messed up and bought the wrong needles from Ali, they’re not here yet but too late to cancel them. Peppen has had great customer service, minutes to respond via text and they are letting me add needles to my existing order. I think the time saved for three sticks a day mon-fri will be well worth it. Hadn’t considered the sharp needle benefit.
Peppens.com is where I bought mine a few days ago
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GimmeABreak
Rabbit-hole Explorer
EZ Pens has them too for $5
They are probably buying them from AliExpress or some other CN site and then sterilizing them. I have ordered from EZ pens, peppens and everything peptides and they all have been sterilized (according to the pouches).
Cartridges For Pens (5) — EZP Supply
Bundle of 5 cartridges for your favorite pens
www.ezpsupply.com
echohunter
New Member
What about the pouches tell you that they are sterilized?EZ Pens has them too for $5
They are probably buying them from AliExpress or some other CN site and then sterilizing them. I have ordered from EZ pens, peppens and everything peptides and they all have been sterilized (according to the pouches).
Cartridges For Pens (5) — EZP Supply
Bundle of 5 cartridges for your favorite pens
GimmeABreak
Rabbit-hole Explorer
There is an indicator on the pouch that changes color for either steam or UV sterilized. Only one sterilization method is required.
stickfigure
GLP-1 Enthusiast
It's either steam or EO. There is no indicator for UVC - you are not supposed to do UVC sterilization in a pouch.
Yes, I tested a couple times and it was accurate. I did it bc someone on discord was saying how inaccurate his were. It’s worth a check for yourself.
Good call. I’ll fill a vial with water and check it. I’m not sure how to change vials and still have the plunger be in the right spot though
Jailbreak7
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Get more pens 🙂 so you don't have to change carts in between.. but it's a good idea to practice with a water.. It is also interesting to note how long it runs after the plunger bottoms out (ie you do not want to pull out the second your thumb bottoms out... it keeps running for like 2 more seconds or so)
I want to test the individual pen however. They’re both loaded right now. I’ll wait until they’re empty I guess
If I’m understanding your question correctly, you don’t have to worry about where the plunger is. You can swap carts out no problem, back to back. The only thing is it’s a bit of a hassle getting the plunger back to where it was. Meaning, you’ll need to insert a pen needle, then dial it, press it, dial it, press it, etc. until you get a little dribble from the needle letting you know the plunger is back in contact with the art.
GimmeABreak
Rabbit-hole Explorer
You're right, EO, not UVC. All I have purchased have been sterilized with steam.
Yeah that’s basically my concern. It kind of sucks to lose a little medication but I spill some all the time fucking around with it I guess
GtownBrown
GLP-1 Member
The pens seem to be all the same—cheap. However, they work. I like using them for a small daily shot like GLOW. I can inject myself standing with the fridge door open rather than dragging out all the accoutrements.
If you’re on discord, check out Toad’s Wild Ride for a good price on pen stuff. They have a section under The Palace.
I feel you, that’s what prompted me to get more. I gotta place another alibaba order soon for a few more. I thought I’d only use them for daily/bid used peps, but even the 3x/week ones are easier in a cart & pen.
zpped
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I've bought maybe 10 pens from aliexpress. I did find one that I didn't trust to use. It had very faint markings for the units and i think the mechanism occasionally slipped instead of pushing the plunger. I test every new pen with a cartridge of water and its the only one I've rejected.
Lullabytreehugger
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I will change over to pens soon. It takes too much time and effort to pull out syringes, then start doses for reta, sema, tesamorelin, ipramorelin, cjc non dac, motsc, ss-31,
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