Current henan order ineffective

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I ordered 10x30 in march. Switched over and for the last month I’ve had zero side effects. Zero suppression. Nada. Upped my dose still nothing. I went back to a vial of my last order from them and it works great. Soo that was a waste of $560. I emailed Cora let’s see if they want to fix this.
 
What mg was ineffective? Cap color? Are you a member of PTDS?
 
You should look into it. If I'm not mistaken that mg and cap color will be going off for testing. Goodkitty over at peppys can get you started in the right direction.
 
You should look into it. If I'm not mistaken that mg and cap color will be going off for testing. Goodkitty over at peppys can get you started in the right direction.

I’m just not a joiner do not wish to be in any chats or join any groups. I can assure you the batch I received this time is ineffective.
 
I’m just not a joiner do not wish to be in any chats or join any groups. I can assure you the batch I received this time is ineffective.
It’s just a forum, not a chat room. Provides really useful information collected about vendors in tidy spreadsheets along with reports from its community so problematic vendors as well as solid vendors can come to light (TBD w/XCE gone), and also reports out group testing results on a delay, unless they are failed results which are posted right away for the safety of the community.

See this post if you missed it:

 
It’s just a forum, not a chat room. Provides really useful information collected about vendors in tidy spreadsheets along with reports from its community so problematic vendors as well as solid vendors can come to light (TBD w/XCE gone), and also reports out group testing results on a delay, unless they are failed results which are posted right away for the safety of the community.

See this post if you missed it:

Grendel. that's precisely the sort of info I've been looking for 🙂
Can you provide the original peppys forum link please?
 
Grendel. that's precisely the sort of info I've been looking for 🙂
Can you provide the original peppys forum link please?
Removing answer to keep it more private. Send me a message if you missed it.
 
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It’s just a forum, not a chat room. Provides really useful information collected about vendors in tidy spreadsheets along with reports from its community so problematic vendors as well as solid vendors can come to light (TBD w/XCE gone), and also reports out group testing results on a delay, unless they are failed results which are posted right away for the safety of the community.

See this post if you missed it:

I saw the post …. I’m willing to bet if 15mg was the underdosed the 30 I ordered was much more. I ordered from a new supplier.
 
THANK YOU @Goreandhlitter and you @PrimroseHill for the very helpful reports on HT product quality.

Reliable User Reports like yours may be the most important feature of this forum for me.

Pity about the undeserved harassment; like evil, cave-dwellers are always with us.
They got tests back they are significantly under dosing. But it was incredibly obvious to me. I just ordered from a new supplier I’ll share if it’s good stuff.
 
My HT Sema 10 is the exactly the same. I doubled the dose and it's still like water. Went back to some leftover X and it works perfectly. Makes you wonder what is actually in some of their stuff?? 😩
Exactly I went way up and now it’s effective. But I have an old order from Henan I switched back to and it worked great. I think when they got more popular they started under dosing. I just ordered from a new supplier.. I’ll share if it’s good stuff
 
Exactly I went way up and now it’s effective. But I have an old order from Henan I switched back to and it worked great. I think when they got more popular they started under dosing. I just ordered from a new supplier.. I’ll share if it’s good stuff
How high up have you gone up to get it to work? I've doubled it (taking 5 mg when my usual dose is 2.4) and it's still not working.
 
Curious, what do you think the batting average is for getting swindled buying in the China market? I have gotten 5 good kits and 1 clearly bad one (dismal on purity and severely underdosed) on viewing Jano reports (publicly released from PTDS).

Three of the good kits were XCE though, so no comfort in having secured those as any indication of how things will go-
 
Curious, what do you think the batting average is for getting swindled buying in the China market? I have gotten 5 good kits and 1 clearly bad one (dismal on purity and severely underdosed) on viewing Jano reports (publicly released from PTDS).

Three of the good kits were XCE though, so no comfort in having secured those as any indication of how things will go-
IMHO the risk has maybe 3 different levels:

Low: Dealing with known suppliers like QSC, perhaps a 10% chance of being swindled.
Medium: Dealing with suppliers that have erratic histories but moderate name recognition, 20-30% chance.
High: Dealing with suppliers nobody has ever heard of before or who have a clear record of shittiness, 50%+.

The "good" news is that even "severely" under-dosed is still perfectly usable most of the time, it just ended up costing a bit more per milligram and can be accounted for when reconstituting and dosing as long as there are test results to work from.
 
IMHO the risk has maybe 3 different levels:

Low: Dealing with known suppliers like QSC, perhaps a 10% chance of being swindled.
Medium: Dealing with suppliers that have erratic histories but moderate name recognition, 20-30% chance.
High: Dealing with suppliers nobody has ever heard of before or who have a clear record of shittiness, 50%+.

The "good" news is that even "severely" under-dosed is still perfectly usable most of the time, it just ended up costing a bit more per milligram and can be accounted for when reconstituting and dosing as long as there are test results to work from.
Thank you so much! Appreciate all the wisdom you share here on this great forum! 🙏
 
I ordered 10x30 in march. Switched over and for the last month I’ve had zero side effects. Zero suppression. Nada. Upped my dose still nothing. I went back to a vial of my last order from them and it works great. Soo that was a waste of $560. I emailed Cora let’s see if they want to fix this
That’s weird. My may order of 10x30mg has been fairly effective. Mine are blue caps though. 5 mg have a small effect but 7.5 mg has been very nice for me.
 
They got tests back they are significantly under dosing. But it was incredibly obvious to me. I just ordered from a new supplier I’ll share if it’s good stuff.
Forgive me if you said this somewhere else and I just haven't seen it yet. But, any luck with the new supplier you tried? Is it any good? My stuff from HT was good, but I'm still keeping my eyes out for other options.
 
I’m at 10mg I was at 5 before I got this batch. It’s taking the edge off.
When I first got my 10MG HT order I thought it was effective... Now that I have used 7/10 vials I believe some have been effective and some pay not even have Tirz in them. Zero effect from some vials. Never experienced that with other suppliers. Waiting for an order from another vendor to be delivered. Will not use HT again.
 
When I first got my 10MG HT order I thought it was effective... Now that I have used 7/10 vials I believe some have been effective and some pay not even have Tirz in them. Zero effect from some vials. Never experienced that with other suppliers. Waiting for an order from another vendor to be delivered. Will not use HT again.
I did notice that actually where some felt great and some felt like they weren’t really working. I ordered from another vendor and started using a few days ago amazing prices fast shipping but I want to get through a few weeks before I decide if it’s good
 
I’m at 10mg I was at 5 before I got this batch. It’s taking the edge off.
Did you get your 10 mg from HT? I purchased two 10 packs back earlier in the year, didn't think much about it not being as effective but now I am slowly gaining a few pounds and I definitely have a LOT less suppression. I have the 10 mg in Red cap and Blue. Anyone heard anything about those I know it has been a while since I ordered and feel silly having it hit me now that maybe they were less effective? Now I have to see out of the two, which week seems better.. I need to write all this down or I am gonna lose my mind on top of all my psych meds, 2 kids and their meds. its a lot of info LOL 🙂
 
My subject finally evaluated the 30mg red top TZ from HT. Presumably same batch at @Goreandglitter received. Tried initial 2.5mg (been the standard dosing) and didn’t feel anything. Added another 50% of that and finally effective. That batch was definitely underdosed.
 
I did notice that actually where some felt great and some felt like they weren’t really working. I ordered from another vendor and started using a few days ago amazing prices fast shipping but I want to get through a few weeks before I decide if it’s good
I just tried my red cap from HT and I agree it's very underdosed. I'm looking for a new supplier was yours any good? If so can you please message me who you used. I appreciate it
 
Did you get your 10 mg from HT? I purchased two 10 packs back earlier in the year, didn't think much about it not being as effective but now I am slowly gaining a few pounds and I definitely have a LOT less suppression. I have the 10 mg in Red cap and Blue. Anyone heard anything about those I know it has been a while since I ordered and feel silly having it hit me now that maybe they were less effective? Now I have to see out of the two, which week seems better.. I need to write all this down or I am gonna lose my mind on top of all my psych meds, 2 kids and their meds. its a lot of info LOL 🙂
My orig order was of the 10mg and it seemed fine when I ordered the 30mg it was super noticeable
 
AC peptides has very quick shipping. They have worked on their volume issues. My testing shows their Tirzepatide is effect. The lipo C is at a good price for a kicker. They have a 10% off Welcome bonus . They have up to 65mg vials of Tirzepatide. Just search TZ in search box , they have it hidden .😉
 
AC peptides has very quick shipping. They have worked on their volume issues. My testing shows their Tirzepatide is effect. The lipo C is at a good price for a kicker. They have a 10% off Welcome bonus . They have up to 65mg vials of Tirzepatide. Just search TZ in search box , they have it hidden .😉
Who is “AC”. please? The US retail outlet?
 
I wonder if those who ordered 30mg and received red tops were sent the wrong ones? I ordered 20mg because it was the only MG I hadn't seen complaints about and was getting desperate at the time.. for 20mg they sent me red caps and it seems to be working great. I'm a slow loser due to PCOS/insulin resistance and taking it has helped break a stall I was going through.. I've lost 5lbs since starting it. I know that's not a lot to some, but since November I've only lost 35lbs, and it's taken 2 years (prior to Nov no glp) to lose 85lbs.. like I said slow loser. So either maybe they started sending the red tops as 20mg knowing they were underdosed 30s, or they weren't sending the correct ones to those ordering 30s.
 
FYI for anyone not aware of recent HT sterility tests...
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FYI for anyone not aware of recent HT sterility tests...
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This is scary. Right? I just came here to say I was using Guruite 12.5 mg (from 15 mg aqua caps) and for 2 weeks no suppression barely. Realized I had 7.5 Henan left (from 15 mg purple caps) so used that with 5 guruite last night - 12.5 total (my dose) and BAM. Suppression back. Got a Costco quesadilla today and could literally only eat one piece of it, nothing else today.

Was going to order from Henan just now because honestly I don’t know who to order from anymore and see your post. 🙁 Anyone have any luck ordering Tirz lately anywhere?
 
This is scary. Right? I just came here to say I was using Guruite 12.5 mg (from 15 mg aqua caps) and for 2 weeks no suppression barely. Realized I had 7.5 Henan left (from 15 mg purple caps) so used that with 5 guruite last night - 12.5 total (my dose) and BAM. Suppression back. Got a Costco quesadilla today and could literally only eat one piece of it, nothing else today.

Was going to order from Henan just now because honestly I don’t know who to order from anymore and see your post. 🙁 Anyone have any luck ordering Tirz lately anywhere?
Because sema and tirz are administered subcutaneously the chances of a severe bad reaction from contamination are pretty slim, and those tests do only reflect the one specific batch tested. QSC is always a decent enough backup, but recently Ronsen has tested well and even the SRY group has pretty good tests that they commissioned but I'm not sure if any other independent tests have been done (they also have some iffy customer service stuff recently).
 
This is scary. Right? I just came here to say I was using Guruite 12.5 mg (from 15 mg aqua caps) and for 2 weeks no suppression barely. Realized I had 7.5 Henan left (from 15 mg purple caps) so used that with 5 guruite last night - 12.5 total (my dose) and BAM. Suppression back. Got a Costco quesadilla today and could literally only eat one piece of it, nothing else today.

Was going to order from Henan just now because honestly I don’t know who to order from anymore and see your post. 🙁 Anyone have any luck ordering Tirz lately anywhere?
Did you end up ordering from HT?
Im unsure of who to order from now, I ended up waiting due to mixed reviews everywhere and then falling low on money, and now it seems alot of suppliers are closing their shops due to brand name being approved to sell in China, GP is no longer active either from what I've read and also no longer able to message my previous contact.
Any advice from anyone?
 
QSC is always a decent enough backup, but recently Ronsen has tested well and even the SRY group has pretty good tests that they commissioned but I'm not sure if any other independent tests have been done (they also have some iffy customer service stuff recently).
Ronsen is not a supplier that I'm familiar with. Do you have more details @ZippityDooDah ?
 
Ronsen is not a supplier that I'm familiar with. Do you have more details @ZippityDooDah ?
They have potential?

Most people believed that they were sourcing primarily from "Merck" although their catalog offers things Merck did not so it would seem they have multiple sources. When Merck got shut down, Ronsen also shut down for a week or so and when they returned their price list was quite different as to what was and was not available. Part of the changes also seem to be a result of removing items that were causing other suppliers problems with the Chinese govt and their rep Andy has apparently said as much to a number of customers.

Unlike most resellers they appear to order custom for their own inventory (much like the larger domestic vendors) instead of just reselling whatever the finishers have available. There were a few examples where concurrent Merck and Ronsen orders for the same product produced similar but not identical products in terms of cap/crimp colors, test results, etc. which tends to support that theory.

Their testing prior to the brief shutdown has been "decent". Nothing spectacular, but nothing terrible with the exception of one instance where a test donor ordered semaglutide but was sent semax instead (not sure if/how that was resolved). Most are under 10% +/- in fill and purity is consistently in the low-to-mid 99.x% range. There are still a handful of tests pending public release, but unfortunately they're all from the pre-Merck shutdown time frame as well so really until newer tests get done it's hard to say if the results will be comparable or not.

FWIW since opening back up there has been an increase in complaints regarding comms and customer service.

From an email I sent them a couple of months ago they prefer bank transfer or BTC payment but were at that time accepting PayPal sent as F&F. They do not use Alibaba.

Bottom line is they're probably reasonably safe to try, but probably worth waiting for more recent test results if possible. From what I've read it does seem like their main rep Andy and his assistants are far less patronizing and pushy than some of the other suppliers so that alone gives them a slight advantage imho.

Attached is a price list I was able to dig up on Discord from 11-July. Only the items highlighted in gray are currently available.
 

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They have potential?

Most people believed that they were sourcing primarily from "Merck" although their catalog offers things Merck did not so it would seem they have multiple sources. When Merck got shut down, Ronsen also shut down for a week or so and when they returned their price list was quite different as to what was and was not available. Part of the changes also seem to be a result of removing items that were causing other suppliers problems with the Chinese govt and their rep Andy has apparently said as much to a number of customers.

Unlike most resellers they appear to order custom for their own inventory (much like the larger domestic vendors) instead of just reselling whatever the finishers have available. There were a few examples where concurrent Merck and Ronsen orders for the same product produced similar but not identical products in terms of cap/crimp colors, test results, etc. which tends to support that theory.

Their testing prior to the brief shutdown has been "decent". Nothing spectacular, but nothing terrible with the exception of one instance where a test donor ordered semaglutide but was sent semax instead (not sure if/how that was resolved). Most are under 10% +/- in fill and purity is consistently in the low-to-mid 99.x% range. There are still a handful of tests pending public release, but unfortunately they're all from the pre-Merck shutdown time frame as well so really until newer tests get done it's hard to say if the results will be comparable or not.

FWIW since opening back up there has been an increase in complaints regarding comms and customer service.

From an email I sent them a couple of months ago they prefer bank transfer or BTC payment but were at that time accepting PayPal sent as F&F. They do not use Alibaba.

Bottom line is they're probably reasonably safe to try, but probably worth waiting for more recent test results if possible. From what I've read it does seem like their main rep Andy and his assistants are far less patronizing and pushy than some of the other suppliers so that alone gives them a slight advantage imho.

Attached is a price list I was able to dig up on Discord from 11-July. Only the items highlighted in gray are currently available.
I did a FB group buy with supposedly with Merck as the vendor around June 25th. We all were told Merck was raided and product seized, no one who paid got refunds and it was a lot of people.
 
Did you end up ordering from HT?
Im unsure of who to order from now, I ended up waiting due to mixed reviews everywhere and then falling low on money, and now it seems alot of suppliers are closing their shops due to brand name being approved to sell in China, GP is no longer active either from what I've read and also no longer able to message my previous contact.
Any advice from anyone?
I honestly was just about to order today because it’s the only one I get the same results as X but came back to read Zip’s post first and now don’t know where to order 🙁
 

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