GYC shipping vials with zero peptides detected
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chmuse
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Probably just straight mannitol, I would think?
Fantastic question, idk. Like chmuse said, *probably* mannitol…
They’re not the only ones in the last couple of weeks to have this result, though the other was ret
YoYoFat
Advanced Researcher
Wasn't there testing by the Jewel/Sabrina lady for GB9 that said it was fine?
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
peptide test. is that the one that doesn't know what they're doing?
YoYoFat
Advanced Researcher
No. That's a new gal on the scene.
But I think PT has had a number of "0%" lately, which does make me wonder if it's a source issue or a testing issue.
chmuse
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Gosh darn it, now we can't even trust the people testing our black market weight loss drugs! What is the world coming to?
Those were in different cases—a greenish/blue. Then they must’ve run out and w/in that buy, they started shipping in clear cases. That seems to be when things changed, according to Swiss server and buyers from gb 9.
zpped
Advanced Researcher
PT has been blind tested for numerous times, if they suddenly started messing up Tirz tests it would be huge news. They also double check strange results like this.
Previous results for the t40 from gyc are suspected from a different batch.
There could be lots of different scenarios for what happened,
No peptide added
Wrong peptide added
There is some current talk that the Freight Forwarder a few vendors were using might have been stealing and replacing the vials with duds.
Considering this test was paid for by gyc, it's unlikely they intentionally screwed anyone here. We'll see how it's handled.
This one is going to take a minute to unfold.
chmuse
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Sorry, my humor doesn't always translate well through text.
zpped
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Yeah, satire is dead because it's impossible to say what is an absurd opinion anymore lol. I'm also autistic so, there is that too.
Cndmk
Established Member
I mean, this is literally the BEST case scenario for GB in a way for 3rd party testing, vendor pays for testing, vendor fails testing, all customers are immediately refunded. This wasn't hidden or covered up, and is directly on GYC's own discord for everyone to see.
OBVIOUSLY the "bestest" case scenario is everyone gets their peptides and they test well, but if we all agree that we can't trust vendor testing themselves in their lab (which I think we all agree on), this kind of stuff is bound to happen in some form or fashion. The that fact that the vendor paid for the tests and the customers got to choose the vials, this is like 100% my dream failure scenario.
I think we focus too much on the fact that "someone failed" rather than the method by which the failure occurred and remediation happened that matters to me. Open, transparent failures are GREAT.
Quick edit: GYC hasn't responded yet (this happened while China was asleep), but I imagine they will just refund everything (it would be a death knell if they didn't IMO)
OBVIOUSLY the "bestest" case scenario is everyone gets their peptides and they test well, but if we all agree that we can't trust vendor testing themselves in their lab (which I think we all agree on), this kind of stuff is bound to happen in some form or fashion. The that fact that the vendor paid for the tests and the customers got to choose the vials, this is like 100% my dream failure scenario.
I think we focus too much on the fact that "someone failed" rather than the method by which the failure occurred and remediation happened that matters to me. Open, transparent failures are GREAT.
Quick edit: GYC hasn't responded yet (this happened while China was asleep), but I imagine they will just refund everything (it would be a death knell if they didn't IMO)
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zpped
Advanced Researcher
Absolutely agreed, They'll either refund/reship or they're done. I'm really banking on the first two because I ordered some of that sweet cheap reta last week.
Nikki nik
Advanced Researcher
Those are not the same cap color as the reta?
zpped
Advanced Researcher
Care to explain why? The lab has been proven to be able to test glp1s over and over again.
zpped
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nurseratchit
Advanced Researcher
Lisa of GYC has made this announcement in their server:
@everyone
1. Hello everyone, sorry for late reply. We just finished an internal emergency meeting.
2. We would like to make our position clear that GYC's original intention will not change. For the quality of the product we will be based on the test report 100% implementation of qualified products replacement (direct from our own warehouse)
3. We have conducted a preliminary internal investigation from the production of goods to the transportation of the entire chain. GYC has 4 warehouses in China, G1, G2, G3 and G4 at the Shenzhen port. The G4 warehouse is shared with the freight forwarder. At present, the most suspicious point is the sealing link of the freight forwarder, and we will start the investigation in the G4 warehouse.
4. GYC has already started to investigate and follow up the goods sent from G4, and will arrange testing as soon as possible. This incident is unprecedented for GYC. We would like to reiterate our attitude: GYC will be responsible to the end and solve the problem thoroughly.
5. After this incident, GYC will immediately adjust the new operation mode to ensure that there is no longer any loophole in any part of the process. GYC could not have come all the way without the support of all of you, and many of you have been with us from the very beginning of GYC to the present. Thank you very much, and we apologize for what happened this time. But GYC has never avoided problems, we will solve them head on!
@everyone
1. Hello everyone, sorry for late reply. We just finished an internal emergency meeting.
2. We would like to make our position clear that GYC's original intention will not change. For the quality of the product we will be based on the test report 100% implementation of qualified products replacement (direct from our own warehouse)
3. We have conducted a preliminary internal investigation from the production of goods to the transportation of the entire chain. GYC has 4 warehouses in China, G1, G2, G3 and G4 at the Shenzhen port. The G4 warehouse is shared with the freight forwarder. At present, the most suspicious point is the sealing link of the freight forwarder, and we will start the investigation in the G4 warehouse.
4. GYC has already started to investigate and follow up the goods sent from G4, and will arrange testing as soon as possible. This incident is unprecedented for GYC. We would like to reiterate our attitude: GYC will be responsible to the end and solve the problem thoroughly.
5. After this incident, GYC will immediately adjust the new operation mode to ensure that there is no longer any loophole in any part of the process. GYC could not have come all the way without the support of all of you, and many of you have been with us from the very beginning of GYC to the present. Thank you very much, and we apologize for what happened this time. But GYC has never avoided problems, we will solve them head on!
nurseratchit
Advanced Researcher
Haha…great minds 🤣
Cndmk
Established Member
yea hopefully the people who purchased these kits will get replacement + some kind of compensation thing, at least a store credit or something. I assume they might be waiting a month or 2 for replacement.
Also bought the R30 from the Christmas sale, this is just a good reminder to test and WAIT for test results before using product. As much as we like to think a specific vendor is immune to this kind of thing, I would challenge that concept. If Amazon warehouses can send out counterfeit goods, ANY peptide vendor can send out duds.
Also bought the R30 from the Christmas sale, this is just a good reminder to test and WAIT for test results before using product. As much as we like to think a specific vendor is immune to this kind of thing, I would challenge that concept. If Amazon warehouses can send out counterfeit goods, ANY peptide vendor can send out duds.
YoYoFat
Advanced Researcher
I trust PT, but I didn't think vendors reshipped based on their tests. I thought they required Jano?
Dallas_vibes
New Member
That does seem to be the trend(requiring Jano), but GYC paid for this PT test so hopefully they’ll honor it.
nurseratchit
Advanced Researcher
Many do but not all.
Cndmk
Established Member
I honestly hope we can eventually get one more qualified testing company as a “qualified” vendor to some of the peptide vendors. Monopolies and duopolies aren’t exactly the best for customer choice, and vendor guarantees drive which companies get business unfortunately. PT has made some strides in garnering respect from the community, and it shows with some vendors allowing tests to sway refund policy.
I just don’t see a third company really standing out yet, but maybe I’m not looking hard enough.
2 is better than 1, but 3 would be a start to ideal IMO
noteablequotable
Advanced Researcher
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Lullabytreehugger
Research Enthusiast
God dammid how does vials even have no peptide at all? It doesnt make sense? Apparently warehouse theft by the shipping company but common how? Replace all vials overnight in a warehouse with bunk and steal the original? Sounds far fetched to me … anyways i bought reta30 and tirz60 from them (Christmas special). What do you guys advise I should do? Wait for the investigation to conclude or ask for a refund? I still want my peptides though … I dunno at the time when I saw the janoshik reports they were both above 99.2% purity so I just dont understand any of this shit is too confusing … to the more senior members of this forum, plz advise what I should do?
zpped
Advanced Researcher
PT is still only able to test a very limited number of peptides as well.
There is no issue with the christmas sale as it hasn't shipped yet. If there is an issue with that shipment then cross that bridge when it comes.
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
The freight forwarder??? They say kits were replaced by bunk ones by them? Sorry I don't trust that
Lullabytreehugger
Research Enthusiast
Yep sounds like a job from the guys at Ocean 11 …
chmuse
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Funny how all the vials still have the same cap colors, too, even after being switched.
I imagine it's more like they got shitty raws and all the raws from that order went to the same warehouse?
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
Right, cuz this is also not the first time something like that happened, other times it was with other vendors
chmuse
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Since there's so few manufacturers and we're basically just buying from the low level dealers, there's probably a less reputable raw supplier that sometimes has great sales.
Lullabytreehugger
Research Enthusiast
Now that does seem like a plausible explanation …
Also I heard production costs have decreased for reta from the manufacturers so that could be another reason why reta dropped prices ($300 for reta30) …
stickfigure
Research Enthusiast
SRY usually has SRY printed on lids. Matching colors and print on lids while replacing in warehouse.. sounds like damage control from SRY.
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
It's getting worse by the minute. It could be affecting a lot of revendors at the moment, I'd not buy any promo atm
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
So far all the affected products have the same type of lettering on the label, some with different labels tested good.
Bottom line is that the issue is across multiple vendors, they could be getting the finished products from the same source
Bottom line is that the issue is across multiple vendors, they could be getting the finished products from the same source
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
I feel like a lot of vendor are in panic sell mode, have you guys seen the number of promotions posted in the last day? I mean sure it's Christmas but they all have promotions at the moment, some extended their current ones
I never seen that many posted in a day
I never seen that many posted in a day
noteablequotable
Advanced Researcher
This is what I've been thinking. Too many problems from even the "good" vendors who are known for consistently delivering good products. I think something must be happening with the finishers or manufacturers right now.
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
And they're all selling their shit before vanishing under a new name, or maybe not but what a weird coincidence uh
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
Ok I got the story wrong, it's most likely a vengeance thing here.
Freight forwarder worked with someone to replace the good products with bunk ones to ruin vendors credibility and ruin them financially too.
We still don't have any proof of any of that, but that's an elaborate sabotage for sure.
Any vendors using the same freight forwarder is at risk.
Freight forwarder worked with someone to replace the good products with bunk ones to ruin vendors credibility and ruin them financially too.
We still don't have any proof of any of that, but that's an elaborate sabotage for sure.
Any vendors using the same freight forwarder is at risk.
Cndmk
Established Member
It's so obvious that the Tesla Optimus robots are doing a REGEX replacement of all the peptides names of anything before the "-" in the name with a blank across the market. (This is programming humor)
That's why Elon Musk was tweeting about getting GLP-1's to everyone, he's planning to run the grey market through Twitter. Honestly I would rather order through CostPlusDrugs to get my fix, but I guess all markets go to the highest bidder now...
That's why Elon Musk was tweeting about getting GLP-1's to everyone, he's planning to run the grey market through Twitter. Honestly I would rather order through CostPlusDrugs to get my fix, but I guess all markets go to the highest bidder now...
GimmeABreak
Rabbit-hole Explorer
I think it is a little unbelievable that a FF had the exact cap colors and went through the process of lyophilizing mannitol with no peptides included just to defame GYC. More likely the raws were bunk or the finisher forgot to put them in the mix.
Is it possible this is corporate espionage from the flower company?
Is it possible this is corporate espionage from the flower company?
zpped
Advanced Researcher
It's not that hard to pull off. They just have to order 1000 vials from their buddy down the street for a few bucks.
I'm not saying it happened but it's not as far fetched as people are making it out.
GimmeABreak
Rabbit-hole Explorer
They have to order a 1000 vials (maybe more) in the right cap colors and have enough advance notice of the cap colors to do it. Open each box and replace the vials? It just seems a little far fetched to me. The more likely scenario is one of their raw providers but its odd that it is over multiple peps.
I'm telling you this stinks of EL trying to muck with the gray market. Pay the right people and it wouldn't be that hard.
clevesand
Research Enthusiast
I've been importing from China for 15 years. Not Peptides. This is not uncommon for the first of the year. The entire country shuts down for three weeks in January. Factories close, and nothing goes in or out of the country. They're just moving ware before they shut down.
