Big Pharma gaining ground on Grey?

[Peloma]

Hospira is all the hospitals I've worked at ever use for reconstituted injectables.

That's probably why it's sold by prescription by name brand. You can get off brand bac anywhere without issue. Our gvt leaders are uniformed morons who won popularity contests...

 

[janedoe]

That's probably why it's sold by prescription by name brand. You can get off brand bac anywhere without issue. Our gvt leaders are uniformed morons who won popularity contests...

I have seen Excela brand ( another pharma company I believe, but not clear) they had a recal though in March 2025. However, pfizer has in the past as well.

 

[dogmom]

Almost makes me want to panic buy another large order. However the Me x place often will have bac water that is close to expiring.

 

[Morbius]

I need to get one of those! Right now, I have sterile sleeves/pouches and the instapot, but an autoclave would be superior.

Technically I don't have an autoclave either, just a 15 PSI pressure canner. But you can verify the temperature inside, and temp/time sterilization tables are completely understood.

Most Instant Pots do not hit 15 PSI but you can sterilize at lower pressure if you can run it long enough. And sterilizing liquids is much easier than bulk dry goods where you need to make SURE the steam penetrates fully.

Hmm, what if benzyl alcohol isn't stable at high temperatures though? What if they use some other sterilization method like gamma radiation?

Checks google

Apparently benzyl alcohol is stable under autoclave conditions. It does seem quite possible to make our own bac water. I reckon it is a smaller risk than the Chinese chemicals we inject, hah.

 

[janedoe]

Technically I don't have an autoclave either, just a 15 PSI pressure canner. But you can verify the temperature inside, and temp/time sterilization tables are completely understood.

Most Instant Pots do not hit 15 PSI but you can sterilize at lower pressure if you can run it long enough. And sterilizing liquids is much easier than bulk dry goods where you need to make SURE the steam penetrates fully.

Hmm, what if benzyl alcohol isn't stable at high temperatures though? What if they use some other sterilization method like gamma radiation?

Checks google

Apparently benzyl alcohol is stable under autoclave conditions. It does seem quite possible to make our own bac water. I reckon it is a smaller risk than the Chinese chemicals we inject, hah.

I've read varying ideas on the instapot pressure. It appears to me from what I've gathered that the longer the better due to the PSI (averaging range 2-3 hrs). Personally, for me and my research, I don't think I'd pressure with the actual product, just sterilize the lab assesories/ vials, beakers, glass rods, and alike ( items for mixing). I would fill my sterilized vials and use my bac w/in 30 days since there would not be a vacuum. It's not ideal, but it is what I plan to do if the Hospira BAC apocalypse occurs. Not perfect, but certainly more comfortable for me than China swamp water.
I also have to nix the gamma radiation..... no one would like me when I'm angry