TikTok is really creating problems in this space.

[Iamnew2this]

This is getting out of control, already!

 

[Delta]

I have seen that a few places today. I guess if you sell a chemical that is used to make fentanyl to the DEA you get in trouble.

 

[Modernomeds]

This is getting out of control, already!

So FN annoying that people can't go without telling the world about everything.😡

 

[Delta]

So FN annoying that people can't go without telling the world about everything.😡

The first one got caught selling steroids and this one selling chemical precursors to fentanyl. Dont think it's a problem with people telling the world about peptides.

 

[yobculture]

I'm not opposed to learning crypto. I've even attempted it a few times and given up because there's just TOO MUCH. Buy it here. Transfer it there. Move it over there. Convert this. Make sure they have the right type. Make sure you have the right type. And constantly it's "if you send it to the wrong place you will never get it back." I understand that some day that will be my only option and then I will find someone to walk me through it. And, that is why I'm here. To learn.

I feel your pain. I’m going through the same thing. If I’m going to continue with this potentially dangerous “hobby,” then I will need to eventually have to learn crypto. Unfortunately, with my level 1 autism, crypto makes my head explode.🤯 I know it’s easy for people to label people like us as “stupid,” but it’s not that simple. Everyone is wired differently and we all process things differently. For example, I can create incredibly complicated animations using the extremely difficult Adobe software After Effects, but most people can’t. But I don’t think they’re “stupid.”

Here’s a warning for those who are crypto inept: If you use a buyer (middle person who takes care of crypto for you), make sure that their transaction is guaranteed. I went through a buyer on a well-known chat community who had stellar reviews to purchase my first gray order. Just my luck, the first batch I get has a bug (or stopper chunk) in one of the vials. I wrote to the buyer but they chose to ignore me. I mentioned it on their chat site, but was rebuked by one of the moderators saying that there was no proof that it was their product. (Even though I posted pics.) Newbie mistake on my part because I didn’t think to ask if the buyer’s “service” was guaranteed. So now I’m hesitant to use anything from the kit, even with filtering. Lesson learned!

Moral of the story: We are all going to have to learn crypto or find another hobby.😖

 

[catdog]

The SRY fent precursor is old news that I think people are just now finding out about.

 

[chmuse]

I feel your pain. I’m going through the same thing. If I’m going to continue with this potentially dangerous “hobby,” then I will need to eventually have to learn crypto. Unfortunately, with my level 1 autism, crypto makes my head explode.🤯 I know it’s easy for people to label people like us as “stupid,” but it’s not that simple. Everyone is wired differently and we all process things differently. For example, I can create incredibly complicated animations using the extremely difficult Adobe software After Effects, but most people can’t. But I don’t think they’re “stupid.”

Here’s a warning for those who are crypto inept: If you use a buyer (middle person who takes care of crypto for you), make sure that their transaction is guaranteed. I went through a buyer on a well-known chat community who had stellar reviews to purchase my first gray order. Just my luck, the first batch I get has a bug (or stopper chunk) in one of the vials. I wrote to the buyer but they chose to ignore me. I mentioned it on their chat site, but was rebuked by one of the moderators saying that there was no proof that it was their product. (Even though I posted pics.) Newbie mistake on my part because I didn’t think to ask if the buyer’s “service” was guaranteed. So now I’m hesitant to use anything from the kit, even with filtering. Lesson learned!

Moral of the story: We are all going to have to learn crypto or find another hobby.😖

Something to remember is that even without a middle man, things just.... Go wrong, sometimes. The middle man can only do so much when the vendor themselves are shady!

Tips for using a middle man like that:

Vet the middle man. See what people have to say about them. Figure out how buys have gone in the past. If something goes wrong, do they argue with the vendor for you, or is this a take it or leave it situation?

Vet the vendor the middle man is buying from. Do THEY honor guarantees if the middle man is willing to do the leg work of talking to them? Is the vendor themselves reputable?

Keep in mind- anyone can go bad at any point. You're adding an extra place where the process can fail!

ASD might make it harder, but we have plenty of members on the spectrum who have learned. You just need to find the right guide. 🫶🏼

(I have also not taken the leap to crypto yet, both because the laws in my location are fucky and because taxes scare me.)

 

[chmuse]

The SRY fent precursor is old news that I think people are just now finding out about.

They're playing catch-up, they were all on compound until recently.

 

[catdog]

They're playing catch-up, they were all on compound until recently.

Ah I see, thanks for the context Chmuse

 

[yobculture]

Something to remember is that even without a middle man, things just.... Go wrong, sometimes. The middle man can only do so much when the vendor themselves are shady!

Tips for using a middle man like that:

Vet the middle man. See what people have to say about them. Figure out how buys have gone in the past. If something goes wrong, do they argue with the vendor for you, or is this a take it or leave it situation?

Vet the vendor the middle man is buying from. Do THEY honor guarantees if the middle man is willing to do the leg work of talking to them? Is the vendor themselves reputable?

Keep in mind- anyone can go bad at any point. You're adding an extra place where the process can fail!

ASD might make it harder, but we have plenty of members on the spectrum who have learned. You just need to find the right guide. 🫶🏼

(I have also not taken the leap to crypto yet, both because the laws in my location are fucky and because taxes scare me.)

The funny thing is that the middle man had phenomenal reviews on the chat site. Like, there’s a whole topic created about them. And they were highly recommended by many people here. And the vendor is so famous they have their own chat community/forum. So I thought I had vetted them. But to be fair, I don’t really expect the middle man to go through all that hassle over one vial from a first-time buyer. It was a newbie fuckup on my part. I learned my lesson. It’s just funny that my very first order was tainted. Welcome to the World of Gray! 🫠

Yes, I realize that I can eventually learn crypto, but it’s going to be difficult because there is literally no room for error, as @christa_channing pointed out. Her description was brilliant:

Buy it here. Transfer it there. Move it over there. Convert this. Make sure they have the right type. Make sure you have the right type. And constantly it's "if you send it to the wrong place you will never get it back.”

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[TheSavante]

The funny thing is that the middle man had phenomenal reviews on the chat site. Like, there’s a whole topic created about them. And they were highly recommended by many people here. And the vendor is so famous they have their own chat community/forum. So I thought I had vetted them. But to be fair, I don’t really expect the middle man to go through all that hassle over one vial from a first-time buyer. It was a newbie fuckup on my part. I learned my lesson. It’s just funny that my very first order was tainted. Welcome to the World of Gray! 🫠

Yes, I realize that I can eventually learn crypto, but it’s going to be difficult because there is literally no room for error, as @christa_channing pointed out. Her description was brilliant:

Buy it here. Transfer it there. Move it over there. Convert this. Make sure they have the right type. Make sure you have the right type. And constantly it's "if you send it to the wrong place you will never get it back.”

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Bitcoin is not as complicated as you and channing are saying. I learnt bitcoin in 2013 watching a 3 minute video. 12 years later it is even easier than it was back then. I am a luddite, so there's no excuse if I can learn it 12 years ago. The description is so far off base too. You can literally buy the bitcoin amount the vendor wants and send it directly to them right from any place of purchase. Moonpay for example even allows credit cards. No transferring, moving or converting or right type. If the vendor gives you a bitcoin wallet and you send bitcoin to that wallet it is not going to the wrong place. None of what was said is valid.

 

[Skidude]

Bitcoin is not as complicated as you and channing are saying. I learnt bitcoin in 2013 watching a 3 minute video. 12 years later it is even easier than it was back then. I am a luddite, so there's no excuse if I can learn it 12 years ago. The description is so far off base too. You can literally buy the bitcoin amount the vendor wants and send it directly to them right from any place of purchase. Moonpay for example even allows credit cards. No transferring, moving or converting or right type. If the vendor gives you a bitcoin wallet and you send bitcoin to that wallet it is not going to the wrong place. None of what was said is valid.

I would agree it seems more difficult than it is, and like many things in life, once learned you will wonder why you thought it was difficult.

However, many of the statements you made are missing important nuances.
Bitcoin (BTC) is a type of crypto, some people use other types so it is important to know what is accepted.
Sending crypto directly can be an issue if the value changes and you are sending crypto instead of stable coin like USDT.

Some prefer to keep USDT as opposed to crypto to minimize price fluctuations.

If you do not use a wallet you can have your account frozen by some so many do a simple 2 step approach. 1 crypto account for funding then transfer to a wallet for buying.

As long as you use a QR code or copy paste wallet information you are going to be pretty safe, we did have a vendor a few months back give the wrong wallet.

But most people will learn easily once they apply themselves, it's all greek until you learn greek.

I believe @zpped was discussing posting a guide with cool graphics.

 

[Garbo]

It just means that you will be limited, likely more each day, on who you can acquire the peps from.
🙂

I suggest everyone learn crypto or stock up.

Fair enough, dear Dude, but remember, the market adjusts ... and entrepreneurs are born. Where there's a need, or aan emerging demographic, there's an opportunity. And people who don't wanna bother with crypto are not precluded from buying from vendors who only accept crypto.

Unlike when I began this journey several years ago, there are fellow travelers among us who, for a small fee, will make crypto purchases for us. Or others who arrange group buys, handle the crypto end of it, and we pay them like the "friends and family" they are 😉
Yes, there is a surcharge, but it's madly worth it for some.

 

[Skidude]

Fair enough, dear Dude, but remember, the market adjusts ... and entrepreneurs are born. Where there's a need, or aan emerging demographic, there's an opportunity. And people who don't wanna bother with crypto are not precluded from buying from vendors who only accept crypto.

Unlike when I began this journey several years ago, there are fellow travelers among us who, for a small fee, will make crypto purchases for us. Or others who arrange group buys, handle the crypto end of it, and we pay them like the "friends and family" they are 😉
Yes, there is a surcharge, but it's madly worth it for some.

Very fair point!
Thank goodness for them as some people, who have no issue with understanding crypto have other reasons not to use.

 

[TheSavante]

I would agree it seems more difficult than it is, and like many things in life, once learned you will wonder why you thought it was difficult.

However, many of the statements you made are missing important nuances.
Bitcoin (BTC) is a type of crypto, some people use other types so it is important to know what is accepted.
Sending crypto directly can be an issue if the value changes and you are sending crypto instead of stable coin like USDT.

Some prefer to keep USDT as opposed to crypto to minimize price fluctuations.

If you do not use a wallet you can have your account frozen by some so many do a simple 2 step approach. 1 crypto account for funding then transfer to a wallet for buying.

As long as you use a QR code or copy paste wallet information you are going to be pretty safe, we did have a vendor a few months back give the wrong wallet.

But most people will learn easily once they apply themselves, it's all greek until you learn greek.

I believe @zpped was discussing posting a guide with cool graphics.

No there are no "nuances", Let us clear up these so called nuances and not validate stupidity and laziness for others

1) Some prefer USDT, I guess you mean some vendors? I have never dealt with a vendor that won't take bitcoin, but sure ok lets pretend what you say is true (it's is not). You buy usdt on the network the vendor wants (lets say ETH), then ask for the eth network USDT wallet, done, buy USDT on the eth network instead of bitcoin at the exchange.

2) If you do not use a wallet you can get the money frozen, sure ok, if you're sending thousands that is possible, but for some obese female that wants a few vials of tirz, I highly doubt they are freezing $300 in bitcoin going to a vendor. Again, 12 years of buying bitcoin and I have never once had a transaction frozen at an exchange.

3) let us assume you are correct regarding a frozen payment. If you have to buy USDT and then send to your own wallet first, isn't it just a matter of sending it to a second wallet. So you're saying someone can do it once, but doing a second time is too difficult?

4) Bitcoin prices change, but send an agreed upon bitcoin amount at an agreed upon time, the blockchain never lies. If you send $1000 at 8pm est, that is all on the blockhain, so if it fluctuates after that, it is the vendors issue to deal with. I have been through many volatile cycles of bitcoin and not once has the value dropped so extremely in 10 minutes that I have had to pay more.

5) Crypto is not learning greek or any language for that matter. Learning languages is much more complex and takes a bit more time to learn and be fluent in. You can learn crypto in a few minutes, period.

 

[christa_channing]

No there are no "nuances", Let us clear up these so called nuances and not validate stupidity and laziness for others

but for some obese female that wants a few vials of tirz, I highly doubt they are freezing $300 in bitcoin going to a vendor.

This obese female is neither stupid nor lazy. My order was for $1600. The ones that want a few vials of tirz in the freezer are not buying kits from the gray market in China. Good for you that it's so easy and you're so smart.

 

[Skidude]

No there are no "nuances", Let us clear up these so called nuances and not validate stupidity and laziness for others

1) Some prefer USDT, I guess you mean some vendors? I have never dealt with a vendor that won't take bitcoin, but sure ok lets pretend what you say is true (it's is not). You buy usdt on the network the vendor wants (lets say ETH), then ask for the eth network USDT wallet, done, buy USDT on the eth network instead of bitcoin at the exchange.

2) If you do not use a wallet you can get the money frozen, sure ok, if you're sending thousands that is possible, but for some obese female that wants a few vials of tirz, I highly doubt they are freezing $300 in bitcoin going to a vendor. Again, 12 years of buying bitcoin and I have never once had a transaction frozen at an exchange.

3) let us assume you are correct regarding a frozen payment. If you have to buy USDT and then send to your own wallet first, isn't it just a matter of sending it to a second wallet. So you're saying someone can do it once, but doing a second time is too difficult?

4) Bitcoin prices change, but send an agreed upon bitcoin amount at an agreed upon time, the blockchain never lies. If you send $1000 at 8pm est, that is all on the blockhain, so if it fluctuates after that, it is the vendors issue to deal with. I have been through many volatile cycles of bitcoin and not once has the value dropped so extremely in 10 minutes that I have had to pay more.

5) Crypto is not learning greek or any language for that matter. Learning languages is much more complex and takes a bit more time to learn and be fluent in. You can learn crypto in a few minutes, period.

Not only did your list misunderstand the statements you are addressing, it also validated many of the nuances.

The bigger question is, why are you so angry? if crypto is so easy then you should not concern yourself with other payments disappearing.

Step away from the puppy and put the shotgun down 🙂