Is a pen worth it or am I thinking about this too much?

[FlowerFairy]

Just curious with the pens…isn’t there too much product left in the vial neck? I ran into that years ago with a family member’s prescription.

You can get washer type adaptors to stop that. It seems to mostly be a Novo or Savvio thing, but the washers will fit all pens and you can buy them from Peppy, Underground and some Etsy shops.

 

[Peloma]

For glp1s I use syringes. But for peps like Glow or KPV that I use often, pens are the way to go. Wished I had jumped on the bandwagon sooner.

This just went into a fresh cartridge...

 

[christa_channing]

This just went into a fresh cartridge...

I finally got around to Klow last week. I can't find a site that doesn't burn. I started in the glutes. It didn't leave a welt, but the ache lasted for hours. Then I read to break up the dose into smaller doses. Got two welts on my thighs. They are still there three days later. I've done the other three in my stomach. I'm not a baby when it comes to pain, but MAN.

 

[Peloma]

I finally got around to Klow last week. I can't find a site that doesn't burn. I started in the glutes. It didn't leave a welt, but the ache lasted for hours. Then I read to break up the dose into smaller doses. Got two welts on my thighs. They are still there three days later. I've done the other three in my stomach. I'm not a baby when it comes to pain, but MAN.

Really? I find that KPV softens the blow, so to speak. Did you make your own blend or buy a mixed vial? Also, how much bac are you using? Just .5ml could make a difference.

 

[christa_channing]

Really? I find that KPV softens the blow, so to speak. Did you make your own blend or buy a mixed vial? Also, how much bac are you using? Just .5ml could make a difference.

I bought glow 50/10/10 and added the KPV myself. I used 3ml bac so it would all fit in my pen cartridge.

 

[zpped]

I bought glow 50/10/10 and added the KPV myself. I used 3ml bac so it would all fit in my pen cartridge.

16mg/ml of GHK-CU will usually cause pain in most people. I prefer mine around 5mg/ml

At least double your bac and split into two carts.

 

[Peloma]

I bought glow 50/10/10 and added the KPV myself. I used 3ml bac so it would all fit in my pen cartridge.

That would be in my tolerable range, with the understanding that there will be a little burn. Anything past 12 hours is a reaction moreso than just injection soreness.

 

[FlowerFairy]

I finally got around to Klow last week. I can't find a site that doesn't burn. I started in the glutes. It didn't leave a welt, but the ache lasted for hours. Then I read to break up the dose into smaller doses. Got two welts on my thighs. They are still there three days later. I've done the other three in my stomach. I'm not a baby when it comes to pain, but MAN.

I gave up and added lidocaine.

 

[bumbleb_19]

I gave up and added lidocaine.

Did that help with the welt to?

 

[Ted R]

The KPV is totally worth it. I may have missed it, but did you check the pH of your reconned GLOW?

 

[zanny-kanny]

I've been using peptides since late Jan and I have always just filled the syringe myself and injected. My mother gets the name brand Tirz 2.5mg from her doctor as "free samples" and absolutely loves the disposable pen. I've been curious about using a pen for my grey shots. Is a pen worth it? I don't have any issues with needles or pulling it from the vial.

I was looking at the auto injector 2

I'm currently on 7.5mg shots - T60@3ml BAC (so 38 units). I can always reconstitute with 2ml for less units and I am comfortable with doing this.
I am just worried that it is going to slam the plunger way too hard.

Am I thinking about this too much?

I use a Mumford Autoinject2.

Autoinject2

Very easy to use and works great. Definitely for those who do not like needles- it is push button spring loaded and the needle is shrouded so you don't see it insert and inject. You have to load it with needles each time you change peptides, but it is worth it to me (I'm on 5 peptides now).

I tried a V2 PepPen with a cartridge but I hated it. It is not spring loaded like the Mumford, you have to press it manually. I couldn't reach it with my thumb correctly so it was hard and the needle actually bent, messing up the shot. I ditched it and returned to using the Mumford. I wish I could find a spring loaded cartridge pen with the shrouded needle. Mumford makes a spring loaded cartridge injector but it's not shrouded so I'm having a hard time using it.

autopen

Anyone know of one like I'm describing which is easily purchasable?

 

[Peloma]

Breakfast goes down easier with these...

 

[peptidepower77]

Breakfast goes down easier with these...
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Where did you get those? I've been looking for colored ones as well to help me differentiate mine. Thanks!

 

[Peloma]

Where did you get those? I've been looking for colored ones as well to help me differentiate mine. Thanks!

A few different places. Mailordermeds.com has the savvios, Underground Supplies usually has the V1s (better than V2) and Alibaba is where I got the bird pen (spring loaded automatic).

 

[peptidepower77]

A few different places. Mailordermeds.com has the savvios, Underground Supplies usually has the V1s (better than V2) and Alibaba is where I got the bird pen (spring loaded automatic).

Thanks. Which is your favourite? Any chance you can pass on a link to the alibaba ones? Cheers.

 

[Peloma]

Thanks. Which is your favourite? Any chance you can pass on a link to the alibaba ones? Cheers.

I like the savvios for smoothness, the bird pen for spicy peps that I don't want to push myself, and the V2 goes up to 80 units for big pins. It's hard to pick a favorite.

 

[Peloma]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008054211485.html

 

[zanny-kanny]

Which is spring loaded? and is it shrouded?(you can't see the needle as it injects)

 

[Peloma]

Which is spring loaded? and is it shrouded?(you can't see the needle as it injects)

The bird pen is, but the needle is not shrouded. V2s are, but they are clunky. I believe there's a V3 that functions like the V1 and also has a shrouded needle, but it's not auto like the bird.

 

[Peloma]

Pen Chonghe Lin M30 Diabetes Home Automatic Injection Pen

That's the translated name, in case anyone wonders why it's easier to say bird pen...

 

[Ted R]

Pen Chonghe Lin M30 Diabetes Home Automatic Injection Pen

That's the translated name, in case anyone wonders why it's easier to say bird pen...

Don't know what Chonghe Lin means but I suspect this is why they call it the bird pen:

 

[FlowerFairy]

Did that help with the welt to?

I never got welts- I got hard itchy lumps under the skin. I still get the lumps but they don’t itch.

 

[rtw01]

Potentially unpopular opinion:

Pens are the safest way to inject peptides. Whether daily, weekly, or any other schedule.

Why? Using a pen requires reconstituting the peptides in 3ml or 4ml batches (as per your pen's cartridge), filling the sterile vial, and using one-time-use disposable pen needles. Following proper sterile measures and setting the pen up allows for single-use needles, less contact with the cap of the vial, and a far more consistent, safer dosing regimen.

It's very easy to accidentally push more than intended with a syringe than a pen. Of course, there's many factors for accuracy, but you're eliminating a major risk factor: human error.

If you're on a consistent and regular dose of a peptide you're better off labelling your pen with the dosage (i.e. do the math and calculate the units needed) and less likely to waste as well...

Is it necessary? No. Is it required? No. Is it safer? Likely, yes. Is it easier? That's up to you.

 

[Sun_Seeker]

For glp1s I use syringes. But for peps like Glow or KPV that I use often, pens are the way to go. Wished I had jumped on the bandwagon sooner.

THis is exactly the feedback I am looking for... And was wondering about - for those daily peps. Also seems like a nobrainer to fill a pin for international air travel.

 

[Sun_Seeker]

I seem to mostly use the most basic pens. Savvios do work very smoothly, they are metal, and you can get them from most of the vendors I know. I’ll post a few links once I’m finished. Novos are “top of the line,” very nice, but they have to be modified and use adapters, plus some cartridges are a tight fit. If you want an auto injection pen you only have 3 choices- Gansulin, Mumford and one known as “the bird pen.” They are ok, but are sold on Ali Baba, so the prices have gone way up. My bird pen was $19- I know someone who paid $40, which is what I paid for my Gansulin. If you want inexpensive and reliable, that’s a V1or a V2. And if you want to get fancy, there are wrapped pens on Etsy and wraps sold by a vendor who is mostly on STG. The supposed “Cadillac” of peptide pens is the Lilly Luxura. I hesitated to buy pre-tariff at $45; now? I saw it today and it was $81. 😳🤯 oh, and there is an ultra basic pen known as “the white plastic pen.” Works fine, but not sure it’s available right now (it’s back ordered).
Honestly, I love my Savvio. But if you just want a reliable pen? V1 or V2 is a solid choice.
Savvio- (discount code thanks25 gets you 20% off). https://mailordermeds.com/products/humapen-savvio-pen-injection-device-red
Novos and adapters (and more)- https://www.sunnybox.studio/?src=g-icon
V1and V2- https://www.thepeppen.com/?src=g-icon
Already wrapped V1/V2- https://www.etsy.com/shop/PeppyPensPenpire

All Things Peptides​

allthingspeptides.com
Best price on a basic V1or V2- https://form.jotform.com/243402951917155
Allstars- https://canadadrugstore.com/products/allstar-pro-blue
Pens on Ali Baba- https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-Insulin-pens.html?osf=direct&spm=a2g0n.aff-fail-over.header.

THank you for all this great information/links!

 

[nonyabizznez]

It's very easy to accidentally push more than intended with a syringe than a pen. Of course, there's many factors for accuracy, but you're eliminating a major risk factor: human error.

Just curious why anyone would have more in a syringe than they intended to inject?

 

[keangkong]

I've been using peptides since late Jan and I have always just filled the syringe myself and injected. My mother gets the name brand Tirz 2.5mg from her doctor as "free samples" and absolutely loves the disposable pen. I've been curious about using a pen for my grey shots. Is a pen worth it? I don't have any issues with needles or pulling it from the vial.

I was looking at the auto injector 2

I'm currently on 7.5mg shots - T60@3ml BAC (so 38 units). I can always reconstitute with 2ml for less units and I am comfortable with doing this.
I am just worried that it is going to slam the plunger way too hard.

Am I thinking about this too much?

I have used both official Zepbound pens and diabetic syringes to inject myself. I don’t see much of a difference. If the syringes bothered you, then using a pen would e worth considering.

 

[Glowworm]

I like pens because it removes the air from touching my peptide. It just feels cleaner, and some peps can gel from the air in the vial. (so I hear.) Call me silly, but we are all worried about cleanliness and then inject air into the vials to fix the vacuum. I mean air isn't sanitized. 🤣
I have v2s, but I just ordered a Bird pen to try.

 

[zpped]

I like pens because it removes the air from touching my peptide. It just feels cleaner, and some peps can gel from the air in the vial. (so I hear.) Call me silly, but we are all worried about cleanliness and then inject air into the vials to fix the vacuum. I mean air isn't sanitized. 🤣
I have v2s, but I just ordered a Bird pen to try.

I like pens too, but you heard wrong. Oxidation doesn't cause gelling in any peptides.

 

[Glowworm]

I like pens too, but you heard wrong. Oxidation doesn't cause gelling in any peptides.

That is good to know! Whoever said that was talking about AOD anyway, which I know tends to gel regardless. They thought it preserved better in a pen.