Wasted $170 and 4 months with a certain vendor on my first experience

[msorganized01]

EDITED TO ADD:
The vendor provided test results of 99.8% and a fill of 12.8mg (10mg was purchased). This vendor has had stellar reviews on all platforms I've utilized for research, and consistently valid test results from others testing their product, so I went ahead and trusted them.
I'm not definitively saying they scammed me; I'm frustrated that I've wasted time and money when others seem to have had good experiences with them and confused as to why.
Believe me, I took over a year to research and even wasted product in the beginning of my journey because I was so nervous to start and procrastinated the first pin so long that I had to toss my first product (this was before I discovered CN vendors). I triple and quadruple checked my math, several different websites to verify the measurements, spent hours reading forums and other platforms to get the most info before starting.


I apologize in advance for the very long post with this has been a complex journey.

i DO want to name the vendor here but I don't want to be blackballed from this forum. I researched long and hard for about a year and a half buying from a CN supplier 3 months ago. I ordered a box of 10mg Tz and I received it within 5 days. I started at the normal dose and have gone all the way up to 10 mg and have experienced zero appetite suppression. If I'm being generous, maybe 20% on certain days here and there. To be fair, I did not test before using due to cost concerns. Which I'm fully expecting to get crap for, but that's ok. In all reality, we are paying for a product and we expect to be able to trust that we are getting what we paid for (in a perfect world, I guess).

What I'm asking is if it's okay to post a vendor name, and if anyone else has experienced this with this particular vendor. I'm willing to consider that maybe I'm doing something wrong but I have watched, read, and otherwise participated in every possible method of research before jumping into this so I don't think it's me.

Also of note is that I have used US suppliers and have lost 20+ lbs. This has been an almost 2-year long road for me and I've probably complicated things along the way by trying to find a better way of doing things or a better price even when something was working for me. However, every other vendor I've used has sent me effective product. This is the first time have felt no different than if I were on nothing, and as a matter of fact, have gained back some of the weight I initially lost.

Seeking guidance and suggestions. Thank you!

 

[indolent]

You won't be blackballed for naming the vendor and stating your experience and your perspective. It would be different if, for example, you're a vendor or reseller trying to smear another due to a vendetta. Your explanation was thorough and careful.

It's helpful for others to know, and to take your narrative along with whatever else is out there in order to make a decision about buying. Besides the vendor name, any batch info for the tirz (e.g. manufacture date and cap/crimp color) would be helpful. There might be known issues.

 

[GLP1Pharmacist]

Not saying your feelings don't matter but without testing of the vial I don't think it adds value..

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Real quick because I don't have a lot of time...

For legitimate vendor problems and complaints, naming the vendor is fine, even for brand new members as long as it's not in the Introduce Yourself section.

Brand new members (going entirely by post count, not join date) naming vendors in a question, in praise/promotion, and especially linking their website/telegram/whatever is generally not welcome. I'm not going to say what exactly that post count is, because post QUALITY and likes received also plays into it, but assume if you have under 20-something posts that mentioning vendors by name is not going to go well for you.

Members who have been around a while (and again, there's no specific time frame or post count) are pretty much free to name and discuss vendors at will as long as it isn't (or doesn't appear to be) shilling, and is not in the Introduce Yourself section.

Hopefully that clears things up.

 

[FrankTdog]

Also of note is that I have used US suppliers and have lost 20+ lbs.

It still came from China.

 

[msorganized01]

This was the test result I was provided with.

 

[joearimathea]

My best advice is to join a group for true 3rd party testing.

 

[slowsixstang]

If this is a well known vendor, there may be third party testing in FPPG on Telegram.

 

[keangkong]

You won't be blackballed for naming the vendor and stating your experience and your perspective. It would be different if, for example, you're a vendor or reseller trying to smear another due to a vendetta. Your explanation was thorough and careful.

It's helpful for others to know, and to take your narrative along with whatever else is out there in order to make a decision about buying. Besides the vendor name, any batch info for the tirz (e.g. manufacture date and cap/crimp color) would be helpful. There might be known issues.

You won't be blacklisted. However, you may find that people here will often doubt that the vendor is the problem if you haven't had the drug tested. While the newer weight loss drugs work quite well, they don't work for everybody.

I remember being skeptical when people started reporting that ASC had sold them bad peptides because I know ASC, at the time, had an excellent reputation. Then when those folks had it tested and proved that the stuff was garbage, I changed my mind.

 

[keangkong]

I took the liberty of running the task number and verification code through the Janoshik site. I then took a screenshot of the resulting COA. It's a vendor-supplied COA with the manufacturer being Nexaph. Does anyone know whether there has been any independent testing of that batch? Since OP discussed his FEELZ test, if you used that batch from Nexaph, what were your FEELZ results? The batch number is TIR1003262025-05. You may also try reaching out to Cain directly.

While a vendor-supplied COA from Janoshik that is genuine (as demonstrated by checking on the Janoshik site) proves that the drug supplied to Janoshik tested well, there is no guarantee other than the honesty of the vendor that you received something similar.

You might want to contact Cain directly and express your concerns. It's possible he'll say something that will address those concerns.

The feature of this site that I appreciate most is that folks do express their opinions about vendors. We are allowed to trash talk vendors. In general, I recommend folks use a vendor that is often discussed.

 

[DeafJam]

There were two vials tested third party on SNP’s third party TG page. Both tested well. I did not check other groups.

 

[slowsixstang]

Forgive me if this seems basic, but are you sure your dosing math is correct? I wonder if the age of the batch plays a part as it looks to be produced in late March (Nexaph uses mfg dates for batch #'s).

 

[cldfront]

Also of note is that I have used US suppliers and have lost 20+ lbs.

FWIW, Nexa is a US supplier. Is it possible you bought it from some place besides nexaph.com and they're suppling Nexa's test results for their sub-par stuff?
I've been using Nexa Tirz for months with good results, along with seemingly thousands of other folks.

 

[frankpeptid]

I've heard anecdotal reports that tirz from nexaph was not impacting them same as prior batch / brand. I can't understand it. All the 3rd party testing is impeccable. Doesn't make sense.

 

[YoYoFat]

There were two vials tested third party on SNP’s third party TG page. Both tested well. I did not check other groups.

It was also tested in FPPG, I believe. The full battery.

A friend of mine has the same batch and had to lower her dose a bit because she didn’t account for overfill and she’s still new. It was a lil’ too effective.

FEELZ is never a good indicator. But that appears to be OP’s testing means.

 

[YoYoFat]

I've heard anecdotal reports that tirz from nexaph was not impacting them same as prior batch / brand. I can't understand it. All the 3rd party testing is impeccable. Doesn't make sense.

FWIW, that hasn’t been my experience. There’s one pin a month where the same vial doesn’t seem as effective, but it’s coincidentally right before my cycle starts, when I’m naturally ravenous. But the same vial is just as effective once my cycle ends.

 

[DwightTheDelight]

FWIW, that hasn’t been my experience. There’s one pin a month where the same vial doesn’t seem as effective, but it’s coincidentally right before my cycle starts, when I’m naturally ravenous. But the same vial is just as effective once my cycle ends.

Yep, I can't comment on this specific situation, but regarding "the feels" that is being mentioned, I can say that I've been on brand zepbound/mounjaro for a long time and the feeling each shot would produce seemed so random, early on at least. Some weeks felt like I didn't even take a shot and then appetite suppression would return the following week. Same box, same shot location... Now I feel nothing noticeable, ever.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

I’m confused. They feel scammed because they bought 10mg and got 13mg? Is that the gist?

 

[lillypriceincrese]

I got brand name mounjaro and I feel hardly anything at the moment. I think it is either time for me to dose higher or my levels have just not built up as I have only been back on 2 weeks after a month off .