How old can a vendor test be before you say no thanks?

[randompersonrandom]

A vendor I like is having a sale on T-60. I don't really need any more, but the price is good. I'm going back and forth, and probably won't buy it because I already spent my mystery-powder budget for this month and can't buy any more until October or else my anti-hoarding rules will go into play, and I hate them. (Which means they work.)

Help me comfort myself; the tests on these are from mid-May. Everything else I've bought, the tests from the vendor was from the last few weeks. Is four months too long ago? I feel like it is, but I'm still fairly new.

 

[MsGizmo]

A vendor I like is having a sale on T-60. I don't really need any more, but the price is good. I'm going back and forth, and probably won't buy it because I already spent my mystery-powder budget for this month and can't buy any more until October or else my anti-hoarding rules will go into play, and I hate them. (Which means they work.)

Help me comfort myself; the tests on these are from mid-May. Everything else I've bought, the tests from the vendor was from the last few weeks. Is four months too long ago? I feel like it is, but I'm still fairly new.

Sorry, but the guy that does the testing says that age doesn't affect GLP1s all that much. Soo as long as its the still the same batch the test is valid as far as I can tell.

But remember what I said .. we don't know what fancy new stuff will come out before you run through what you already have in your freezer. Distract yourself from hoarding by building a wish board on pinterst for the new clothes you will need to buy next year.

 

[randompersonrandom]

Sorry, but the guy that does the testing says that age doesn't affect GLP1s all that much. Soo as long as its the still the same batch the test is valid as far as I can tell.

But remember what I said .. we don't know what fancy new stuff will come out before you run through what you already have in your freezer. Distract yourself from hoarding by building a wish board on pinterst for the new clothes you will need to buy next year.

but but but what if I titrate all the way up to 15mg next week and then run out in 5.4 yeeeeears??? (you can't see the flecks of foam forming at the corners of my mouth, but they're there.)

 

[rsmith]

This is just my opinion but most vendor-provided COAs are worthless. This is particularly the case for COAs provided by CN vendors. It's my firm belief that CN vendors like SRY and SSA sell their product without consideration to the age of the product and that they use the newest COAs to "verify" their purity/mass (even though the product could easily be from last year or older).

In other words, the product they send you is most likely not from the same batch as any of the newer COAs they will provide you. Instead, your product could be much, much older than even the oldest COA you come across. This makes 3P testing even more critical because the risk of degradation goes up with older product in most cases (much less so for Tirz so... buy away 🙂).

 

[keangkong]

This is just my opinion but most vendor-provided COAs are worthless. This is particularly the case for COAs provided by CN vendors. It's my firm belief that CN vendors like SRY and SSA sell their product without consideration to the age of the product and that they use the newest COAs to "verify" their purity/mass (even though the product could easily be from last year or older).

In other words, the product they send you is most likely not from the same batch as any of the newer COAs they will provide you. Instead, your product could be much, much older than even the oldest COA you come across. This makes 3P testing even more critical because the risk of degradation goes up with older product in most cases (probably less so for Tirz).

A COA from Janoshik is strong evidence that the tested substance is as described. However, you usually don't know whether the viasl you received are similar.

 

[rsmith]

A COA from Janoshik is strong evidence that the tested substance is as described. However, you usually don't know whether the viasl you received are similar.

Yes, exactly. What you receive from e.g., SSA is almost certainly NOT what was tested in the COA they provide you.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

Sounds like some Tracy bullshit

 

[randompersonrandom]

Sounds like some Tracy bullshit

I will NEVER touch QSC in any incarnation. I know it's not like, Drug Scouts that we're buying from, but once a company does a certain amount of sketch with a straight face, my risk tolerance nopes right out.

 

[BooneDonk]

I have 3 kits in the freezer. 3rd party testing is within 1% of vendor COA’s for my vendor. They are tested more than others due to an event a year ago. I’m of the opinion that I can store up quick to get me through ALL my cycles of ALL my peps and then duck out of the forums and discord channels. Really hope my KLOW results line up with Reta results!

 

[randompersonrandom]

I have 3 kits in the freezer. 3rd party testing is within 1% of vendor COA’s for my vendor. They are tested more than others due to an event a year ago. I’m of the opinion that I can store up quick to get me through ALL my cycles of ALL my peps and then duck out of the forums and discord channels. Really hope my KLOW results line up with Reta results!

Was the event Zero Pepgate?

 

[BooneDonk]

Was the event Zero Pepgate?

It was before my time. However SRY 💩 the bed is what I was talking about.

 

[randompersonrandom]

It was before my time. However SRY 💩 the bed is what I was talking about.

I've been reading all the scandals. This forum is so full of tales of scandal and fuckery, and I can't stop reading all of it like it's celebrity gossip, except without all the slut-shaming and racist overtones.

 

[BooneDonk]

I've been reading all the scandals. This forum is so full of tales of scandal and fuckery, and I can't stop reading all of it like it's celebrity gossip, except without all the slut-shaming and racist overtones.

Keep reading, you will find that too! I was a horrible person in 2002, that was a while back. Let’s hope we aren’t buying fent in 2025!

 

[kaahhllll]

I thankfully have found the world of telegram group buys, and the three that I have been part of all did community testing. I just got four kits of R10 from two different GB's that used the same vendor(JY - US based). The vendors COA is from April, but the kits I received all match the original vial. The vendor COA said 10.47 at 99.2%. The first GB COA shows 11.49 at 99.4%. Second GB is still on the way to jano.

I was really hesitant at first with how old the vendor COA is, but that hesitation was alleviated by having the community support and testing along with it. It takes a lot of the stress away, rather than hoping and crossing your fingers when getting directly from CN. I even tracked down more COAs for four more vials from the same batch ranging from 11.22-11.63 at 99.3-99.6% as well as an endo at 0.098.

I paid $80 less per kit for four kits that will have a total of seven mass and purity tests and one endo test than I paid for one kit that had one vendor mass and purity and one 3rd party. There's always better deals, and those better deals sometimes have better insurance as well.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you're questioning it that much, maybe it'd be better to source from somewhere else, especially if there is community tests involved.

 

[yesman1]

I thankfully have found the world of telegram group buys, and the three that I have been part of all did community testing. I just got four kits of R10 from two different GB's that used the same vendor(JY - US based). The vendors COA is from April, but the kits I received all match the original vial. The vendor COA said 10.47 at 99.2%. The first GB COA shows 11.49 at 99.4%. Second GB is still on the way to jano.

I was really hesitant at first with how old the vendor COA is, but that hesitation was alleviated by having the community support and testing along with it. It takes a lot of the stress away, rather than hoping and crossing your fingers when getting directly from CN. I even tracked down more COAs for four more vials from the same batch ranging from 11.22-11.63 at 99.3-99.6% as well as an endo at 0.098.

I paid $80 less per kit for four kits that will have a total of seven mass and purity tests and one endo test than I paid for one kit that had one vendor mass and purity and one 3rd party. There's always better deals, and those better deals sometimes have better insurance as well.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you're questioning it that much, maybe it'd be better to source from somewhere else, especially if there is community tests involved.

finding those sources with community testing is another task by itself 🙁

 

[tncc_rn]

This is just my opinion but most vendor-provided COAs are worthless. This is particularly the case for COAs provided by CN vendors. It's my firm belief that CN vendors like SRY and SSA sell their product without consideration to the age of the product and that they use the newest COAs to "verify" their purity/mass (even though the product could easily be from last year or older).

In other words, the product they send you is most likely not from the same batch as any of the newer COAs they will provide you. Instead, your product could be much, much older than even the oldest COA you come across. This makes 3P testing even more critical because the risk of degradation goes up with older product in most cases (much less so for Tirz so... buy away 🙂).

^^^^ This ^^^^

 

[tncc_rn]

I've been reading all the scandals. This forum is so full of tales of scandal and fuckery, and I can't stop reading all of it like it's celebrity gossip, except without all the slut-shaming and racist overtones.

When buying any of this stuff from anywhere on the Internet keep in mind we are buying from no one other than drug dealers.

Drug dealers (both legal and illegal) have a well earned reputation for scandal and fuckery. I've dealt with both, and you can NEVER trust either for anything other than they will take your money.