It's KLOW time!

FatPanda said:
How long did you take a break from KLOW for?
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Bout four weeks, after about seven weeks on. I don't actually know if it does anything at all for me. I look younger and hotter than I did when I started, but also I've lost twenty pounds and deliriously happy, so who knows. I'm doing a second cycle in hopes that it helps with loose skin. I don't have any so far, and I don't want any.
 
randompersonrandom said:
Bout four weeks, after about seven weeks on. I don't actually know if it does anything at all for me. I look younger and hotter than I did when I started, but also I've lost twenty pounds and deliriously happy, so who knows. I'm doing a second cycle in hopes that it helps with loose skin. I don't have any so far, and I don't want any.
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sucking femme fatale GIF
 
randompersonrandom said:
Bout four weeks, after about seven weeks on. I don't actually know if it does anything at all for me. I look younger and hotter than I did when I started, but also I've lost twenty pounds and deliriously happy, so who knows. I'm doing a second cycle in hopes that it helps with loose skin. I don't have any so far, and I don't want any.
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I love that you look younger and hotter LOL can you keep us up to date on if it helps with loose skin!!
 
fatty33 said:
I love that you look younger and hotter LOL can you keep us up to date on if it helps with loose skin!!
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I would, but I doubt that I'll know! I started at 176, am currently at 146, and heading for 125 (5'5"). If I don't get loose skin, then maybe it's the KLOW, and maybe not. If I do, then maybe it would have been worse if I HADN'T.

And this is why eventually we'll prolly ALL have KLOW in our freezer and no idea if it's doing anything. 😀
 
randompersonrandom said:
I would, but I doubt that I'll know! I started at 176, am currently at 146, and heading for 125 (5'5"). If I don't get loose skin, then maybe it's the KLOW, and maybe not. If I do, then maybe it would have been worse if I HADN'T.

And this is why eventually we'll prolly ALL have KLOW in our freezer and no idea if it's doing anything. 😀
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I am starting at 210, I'm 58 so my skin is not going to be as resilient and someone younger. And I think I have a little lipedema on my upper thighs, not diagnosed but that is my opinion. And I am interested in anything that my help me out.
 
fatty33 said:
I guess I need to start researching this then!! I am assuming it is ok to take if you are already researching with Tirz. Just on different days.
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Do it. I’m 52, 5’8 started at 215 ish, menopause yanno, I’m now 175, 10 months later, doing klow, and my arm skin is tighter than I would have guessed. Also my nails are strong af again. The arm skin could be a fluke, but my pre meno nails coming back can only be something I’ve done, besides losing weight.
 
fatty33 said:
I guess I need to start researching this then!! I am assuming it is ok to take if you are already researching with Tirz. Just on different days.
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When I'm doing KLOW, it's every day including the tirz day til I've used up two vials; so around 8ish weeks.

Mind you...I am researching WAY too many peptides at once, like, in a "ok, randompersonrandom, it is REALLY time to start making a definite plan to either lay off some of this stuff or start spacing it out more; none of this stuff has been studied long-term and you don't even know what kind of risks you're introducing, let alone possible interactions that we don't know about because nobody studied it yet" kind of way. So take NO safety measures from MY playbook.
 
fatty33 said:
And I think I have a little lipedema on my upper thighs, not diagnosed but that is my opinion.
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Funny (not funny) I’ve wondered that too. Hubby touched my leg gently and it about sent me through the roof. No bruises. Only a few hot spots do that, it’s strange. Certain areas of “padding” are getting thicker faster. , a pad about a hand’s breadth, below my hip. Just strange.
 
randompersonrandom said:
Bout four weeks, after about seven weeks on. I don't actually know if it does anything at all for me. I look younger and hotter than I did when I started, but also I've lost twenty pounds and deliriously happy, so who knows. I'm doing a second cycle in hopes that it helps with loose skin. I don't have any so far, and I don't want any.
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I’ve been on NAD+ and GLOW among others for a few years and my personal opinion is that if I feel better about taking it than not then I’ll continue. I’ve spent far more on personal trainers, skin care, healthy food and supplements so adding one more angle to the whole picture may not give explosive results, it’s likely helping slow the downhill speed of aging. We don’t know what we would look like or how we would feel if we didn’t put forth effort but I know that keeping up one habit reinforces keeping up the others.

I started doing gua sha and milk light therapy on my abdomen in hopes it will prevent hard spots from all the injections. No clue if I’m making a difference but it makes me feel better. 😆
 
Foggy-Hollow said:
Funny (not funny) I’ve wondered that too. Hubby touched my leg gently and it about sent me through the roof. No bruises. Only a few hot spots do that, it’s strange. Certain areas of “padding” are getting thicker faster. , a pad about a hand’s breadth, below my hip. Just strange.
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"Hot spots" .... Allodynia, maybe?
 
Foggy-Hollow said:
Funny (not funny) I’ve wondered that too. Hubby touched my leg gently and it about sent me through the roof. No bruises. Only a few hot spots do that, it’s strange. Certain areas of “padding” are getting thicker faster. , a pad about a hand’s breadth, below my hip. Just strange.
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I can push on the side of my thigh and it hurts. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am. 🫤
 
Been taking KLOW for a while and think it's messing with my joints and making my skin sensitive. Will probably be jumping off this cycle once I finish this vial and I'll see how well KPV and GHK-Cu alone works out.
 
fatty33 said:
I can push on the side of my thigh and it hurts. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am. 🫤
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I started KLOW about a month and a half ago..I think...one of the posts mentioned to pin your love handles! Very little pain and no bruising. HOWEVER, I don't know about the batch or what, but after about 3 weeks on the same vial, after pinning, I get little lumps. So, now I'm only using what I need for 2 weeks and reconstitute another vial. So far so good. As far as results...well, I guess it's working since I don't have much lose skin. I'm 54 and 5'4 went from 185 to 145.
 
reddawg95 said:
I started KLOW about a month and a half ago..I think...one of the posts mentioned to pin your love handles! Very little pain and no bruising. HOWEVER, I don't know about the batch or what, but after about 3 weeks on the same vial, after pinning, I get little lumps. So, now I'm only using what I need for 2 weeks and reconstitute another vial. So far so good. As far as results...well, I guess it's working since I don't have much lose skin. I'm 54 and 5'4 went from 185 to 145.
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Curious if constitution would make a difference. I’ve not taken KLOW as a stack but I’m a GLOW cyclist 😛 - I have NAD+ that’s 200mg/mL and it burns like hell unlike the 50mg/mL. I put it in a vial reducing it to 100mg/mL and it’s much better. Plus I roll the syringe (cap on) in my palms to warm it before injection.

I started noticing my tummy skin getting hard to pierce because I pin so many times per week I’m running out of space. If you’re developing lumps, I wonder if diluting it and then pinning 1/2 and 1/2 in two different spots, like maybe you could metabolize it quicker with more surface area. It’s just a theory, I welcome anybody to explain why that doesn’t actually work.
 
50ShadesGreyMarket said:
Curious if constitution would make a difference. I’ve not taken KLOW as a stack but I’m a GLOW cyclist 😛 - I have NAD+ that’s 200mg/mL and it burns like hell unlike the 50mg/mL. I put it in a vial reducing it to 100mg/mL and it’s much better. Plus I roll the syringe (cap on) in my palms to warm it before injection.

I started noticing my tummy skin getting hard to pierce because I pin so many times per week I’m running out of space. If you’re developing lumps, I wonder if diluting it and then pinning 1/2 and 1/2 in two different spots, like maybe you could metabolize it quicker with more surface area. It’s just a theory, I welcome anybody to explain why that doesn’t actually work.
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Even with the KPV, KLOW is a stingy, itchy poke. I'd definitely dilute as much as reasonable and keeping pins above 10units. Depending on protocol and how the vial tested, that could vary quite a bit, but for me I recon the full 3ml for KLOW80 that tested ~20% over. A 1ml recon at 96mg/ml is about 10% dissolved solids which would be quite high for any peptide/protein so I try to push it down to ~32mg/100units (3% dissolved). Besides it's hard to be accurate below 10units.

Depending on your protocol you might be at 0.5mg to 3mg GHK-Cu per shot. I research the upper end of that so 10iu works just fine, but >5ml recon might be required.

No noticeable issues for my research as long as injection site moves, but I definitely notice scratches heal faster and a little bit of pinkness on skin in general. Low dose zinc supplementation is a good idea along with cycling.
 
desinr-gal said:
And?? How did it go?
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While I was on KLOW it certainly felt like my skin was tighter, but I still think it might have messed with my joints. I've only been off it for a few days, joint stuff has lessened or gone away but skin tenderness is still there, might be something else. Haven't gotten any GHK or KPV yet so I can't comment on that.

After reading what I wrote on my vial it turns out I was dosing too high, I was taking 4mg when I should've been taking around 3mg so take my experience with a grain of salt.
 
joseblo said:
Even with the KPV, KLOW is a stingy, itchy poke. I'd definitely dilute as much as reasonable and keeping pins above 10units. Depending on protocol and how the vial tested, that could vary quite a bit, but for me I recon the full 3ml for KLOW80 that tested ~20% over.
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I have that same KLOW (mine's from GYC, but I know a few places had that one with the overfill), and I reconned it with 12ml this time; filled four cartridges. 31 units of that. I FINALLY got relief at that concentration from the ISR's and the pain of the shot itself. I don't even have to use the 8mm pen needles with this concentration, the 5 are fine. It's a lot of bac water (24 ml for a full cycle, but it's only four times a year, and I have two cases of bac water.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I have that same KLOW (mine's from GYC, but I know a few places had that one with the overfill), and I reconned it with 12ml this time; filled four cartridges. 31 units of that. I FINALLY got relief at that concentration from the ISR's and the pain of the shot itself. I don't even have to use the 8mm pen needles with this concentration, the 5 are fine. It's a lot of bac water (24 ml for a full cycle, but it's only four times a year, and I have two cases of bac water.
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Do you pin in multiple locations? or how does that much liquid behave under your skin??
 
randompersonrandom said:
I have that same KLOW (mine's from GYC, but I know a few places had that one with the overfill), and I reconned it with 12ml this time; filled four cartridges. 31 units of that. I FINALLY got relief at that concentration from the ISR's and the pain of the shot itself. I don't even have to use the 8mm pen needles with this concentration, the 5 are fine. It's a lot of bac water (24 ml for a full cycle, but it's only four times a year, and I have two cases of bac water.
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Yeah, if you're not going for 3mg of GHK you've gotta go with more BAC!
Do you have confidence in the reconned carts staying good in the fridge?
I filter, but still worry about going 3-4 months since I cycle. Maybe filter into a 10mm vial and then filter each cart? Maybe, I'll do two carts and go up to 20units?

Does the Cu makes the bacterial hurt too?

BTW another thing I've noticed is those weird hairs that you thought were gone... they come back!
 
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