Nexaph testing

Lullabytreehugger said:
How are you right at the top of dinosys list of green vendors with so many complaints against you? I smell some high level corruption going on here … I have his list with me and you are listed right at the top as number 1 on his list and all new comers would view that as the most trusted vendor on the list. What a load of croc … you paid to be number one on that list …
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Show me a list of complaints by actual customers, all of these "complaints" are from non customers. Ask these "complainers" for receipts of purchase.
 
Cain_SPC said:
Show me a list of complaints by actual customers, all of these "complaints" are from non customers. Ask these "complainers" for receipts of purchase.
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Please just block him and continue on with the other concerns, Cain.

No chance he is your customer or a future customer and like a 90% he is cantydes.
 
Lullabytreehugger said:
Look how dinosys tried to lure me into his forums …

Dwight is his best side buddy. Until he got me banned cause I abused his bf…
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This is a forum about GLP1 medications, similar peptides/meds, and the vendors that sell them.

It's not a forum about other forums about GLP1 medications, similar peptides/meds, and the vendors that sell them.
 
DwightTheDelight said:
Please just block him and continue on with the other concerns, Cain.

No chance he is your customer or a future customer and like a 90% he is cantydes.
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There is a thing called "potential customers".

So far many of us have overlooked issues from the past. I'm actually a customer, just not in this round.

I think you two should get a room personally.....
 
Cain_SPC said:
This is exhausting from the people that try to stir up drama around my company, its always the same people around it. If you cannot see that, i don't know what to tell you.

Degradation showed up in the Reta batch, after said degradation showed up i replaced the batch. What more do you want?
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I have never denied that you, more than any other vendor, are placed under an unusual amount of scrutiny. While that might not be fair (and i'm sure it's personally upsetting), in context it does make sense.

Back to my questions about the product issue.

Based on what you've currently said the poor test results were caused by incorrectly manufactured peptides (which you replaced at no cost).

- Did the manufacturer confirm this? Can you show us correspondence that would prove that?
- Is this the same manufacturer who caused failed sterility tests earlier in the year?
- Are you currently still working with them?
- If yes to the question above, what was the root cause of the issue, and what steps have they taken to ensure this won't happen again?
 
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brentm said:
There is a thing called "potential customers".

So far many of us have overlooked issues from the past. I'm actually a customer, just not in this round.

I think you two should get a room personally.....
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I would just like Cain to remain on topic about the concerns that were brought up earlier, that are somewhat new and personally affect me. Do you think there is anyone who doesn't already know that Cain is at the top of gator's list at this point? It's old news.

I just want the people who know more about this situation than myself and this other idiot to continue the conversation.
 
DwightTheDelight said:
I would just like Cain to remain on topic about the concerns that were brought up earlier, that are somewhat new and personally affect me. Do you think there is anyone who doesn't already know that Cain is at the top of gator's list at this point? It's old news.

I just want the people who know more about this situation than myself and this other idiot to continue the conversation.
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Cain is a business person... I think he can remain on topic without the support...

But now you have the "Streisand Effect" going on.... trying to keep it quiet just generates more noise.
 
Cain_SPC said:
Hi everyone, going to try to address as many of the concerns that i have seen in this thread as i can.

What fillers are used in our formulations:
We currently use either one or a combination of the following: mannitol, sorbitol, sucrose and trehalose. Histidine is currently only being used in Tesamorelin because of degradation worries. Tesamorelin has a tendency to degrade if not buffered properly hence the reason we use histidine. Histidine was used because that is what the FDA approved version of Tesamorelin used (egrifta).
Any formulation we make, you can directly ask me for the excipients used and ill be happy to answer that. I don't think any other vendor has that knowledge or can even tell you because they aren't directly involved in the manufacturing process. Saying mannitol is the only excipient used for any of these Chinese vendors or other vendors is completely false, mannitol only generally does not protect the peptide and you would have seen many other issues if that was the case.

Third party testing:
We do pay for third party testing for the peptides we sell, i believe this is normal practice among vendors. If this is not the case, please correct me. As for Michelle "infiltrating" and being an "agent" for me, this is absolutely ridiculous. She helps in organizing random donors for third party testing that is getting sent directly to the testing lab. This organizing is done for my telegram group and not for any other group outside of it. I didn't even know she was part of a group that does third party testing till SM1 made that ridiculous statement about me manipulating. Honestly these claims are just ridiculous and below the belt. We are trying to do right by our customers by paying for their third party testing and to reduce the burden of cost to them. Other than that we are not involved in any way.

Lastly:
I'm sorry to all my customers that have to deal with ridiculous claims made by these types of people that have nothing better to do than to drag a vendor because they have a grudge against them. I am not active on these forums anymore because of issues like this but am very active in my telegram community. So please if anyone has any concerns they can contact me on telegram or ask in the telegram channels so i can answer them directly.
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Where no one will question your products or integrity…or will get promptly booted if they do. 🙄
 
brentm said:
Cain is a business person... I think he can remain on topic without the support...

But now you have the "Streisand Effect" going on.... trying to keep it quiet just generates more noise.
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I'm in the unique position of being accused of being anti nexa by someone in the other forum today and being indirectly accused of being pro nexa by you.

The truth is I'm pro ME. I have bought a kit and I just want to know if I can fucking use it. I feel like if Cain just keeps getting jumped on by everyone here, we will never get the answers, because he could just wash his hands of this forum.

If bee, Cain, and a few other people with deeper knowledge of this situation can keep talking somewhat civilly, we can all benefit from it.
 
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DwightTheDelight said:
I'm in the unique position of being accused of being anti nexa by someone in the other forum today and being indirectly accused of being pro nexa by you.

I have bought a kit and I just want to know if I can fucking use it. I feel like if Cain just keeps getting jumped on by everyone here, we will never get the answers, because he could just wash his hands of this forum.

If bee, Cain, and a few other people with deeper knowledge of this situation can keep talking somewhat civially, we can all benefit from it.
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Funny that … you are the troll under the bridge and yet you fail to realise it???

Every single thread you enter, you derail it like a runaway train with the train driver smoking crack on the job …
 
This message says you used histidine in Reta…
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Lullabytreehugger said:
Look how dinosys tried to lure me into his forums …

Dwight is his best side buddy. Until he got me banned cause I abused his bf…
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I was a little upset that I had to join Alligator's site (which is a fine site) in order to access Alligator's list of Chinese vendors. I then had to post enough to be able to access it. I then made a bunch of stupid posts (stupider than what I post here). As a result, I can access Alligator's Chinese vendors list. I'm a little surprised that a person who is called Alligator is depicted by a picture of a crocodile with a top hat on. You can tell that it's a crocodile by the visible teeth with the animal's mouth closed. Still I put up with that because I view Alligator, aka dionysos, as providing valuable information. Also, on his own site, the person known as Alligator goes by Crocodie. That indicates to me that Alligator has done some serious introspection about his identity and has realized that he is a crocodile as opposed to an alligator.
 
DwightTheDelight said:
I'm in the unique position of being accused of being anti nexa by someone in the other forum today and being indirectly accused of being pro nexa by you.

The truth is I'm pro ME. I have bought a kit and I just want to know if I can fucking use it. I feel like if Cain just keeps getting jumped on by everyone here, we will never get the answers, because he could just wash his hands of this forum.

If bee, Cain, and a few other people with deeper knowledge of this situation can keep talking somewhat civilly, we can all benefit from it.
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Not sure how you inferred that I accused you of being pro nexa... I said you and Treehugger should get a room. Maybe you thought I was talking about Cain?

I mean I was pro Nexa... Still might be after all this... The water is pretty muddy here... but I think that if they can emerge from this better and stronger than before. More power to them!

I'm not usually the "grab a pitchfork" kind of guy wanting to character assassinate the next person that colors outside the lines. Who knows why they choose a different filler? Improvement sounds like the answer from Cain.

Anyway, it's all good. Cain will get it sorted out. Sorry you've got a kit on it with question marks. Gives me Amopure vibes tbh....
 
keangkong said:
I was a little upset that I had to join Alligator's site (which is a fine site) in order to access Alligator's list of Chinese vendors. I then had to post enough to be able to access it. I then made a bunch of stupid posts (stupider than what I post here). As a result, I can access Alligator's Chinese vendors list. I'm a little surprised that a person who is called Alligator is depicted by a picture of a crocodile with a top hat on. You can tell that it's a crocodile by the visible teeth with the animal's mouth closed. Still I put up with that because I view Alligator, aka dionysos, as providing valuable information. Also, on his own site, the person known as Alligator goes by Crocodie. That indicates to me that Alligator has done some serious introspection about his identity and has realized that he is a crocodile as opposed to an alligator.
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Just to add to the complexity of your analysis "Cocodrie" is Cajun French for Alligator. This despite the fact that it is Parisian French for Crocodile.
 
dionysos said:
Just to add to the complexity of your analysis "Cocodrie" is Cajun French for Alligator. This despite the fact that it is Parisian French for Crocodile.
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At least they both within the same reptilian order, crocodylia, with crocodiles belonging to the crocodylidae family and alligators belonging to the alligatordae famioly. When I was in Paris, I didn't see any member of crocodylia order, however, I was only there for about 5 hours.
 
noteablequotable said:
I have never denied that you, more than any other vendor, are placed under an unusual amount of scrutiny. While that might not be fair (and i'm sure it's personally upsetting), in context it does make sense.

Back to my questions about the product issue.

Based on what you've currently said the poor test results were caused by incorrectly manufactured peptides (which you replaced at no cost).

- Did the manufacturer confirm this? Can you show us correspondence that would prove that?
- Is this the same manufacturer who caused failed sterility tests earlier in the year?
- Are you currently still working with them?
- If yes to the question above, what was the root cause of the issue, and what steps have they taken to ensure this won't happen again?
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In addition to the questions above^, I think we'd all appreciate an explanation of the screenshot below @Cain_SPC

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PopTart said:
This message says you used histidine in Reta…
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