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Reta + tirz has me in a pretty significant caloric deficit (between 1500 and 1750 daily), and in the 42 days I've been on it, my average daily loss is probably way too high at about .7#. I never did any body measurements prior to starting the slupp, but since I started counting protein intake...

I'm getting a little concerned about chasing down a never ending series of drugs, personally. Slupp & Ostarine to help focus the GLP-1s, mirabegron to make the slupp more effective, TRT to avoid the testosterone crash with Ostarine... Not sure how willing I am to keep chasing.

Yeah the math ain't troubling me as far as slupp concentration, but maybe I'm misunderstanding when you mention 10/90 DMSO/whatever as max for toxicity concerns. This stuff is miles away from my wheelhouse, so I probably shouldn't pretend to understand without looking up terminology first.

Well shit, did I get the terms in my ratio swapped?

Update I just posted elsewhere: TIL: DMSO is not for me. Before slathering on my full dosage of slupp salve for the morning, I tested a few drops on my forearm. At an 80/20 concentration of DMSO/moonshine (which came in at just under 180 proof) with 20mg/1ml slupp solution, even just a few...

Oof, that's pretty severe. Mind if I ask what dosage?

Haha! Same here, honestly. I was looking for Intro to Rhetoric, this doesn't seem right...

I have not. About to give Dr. Google a call...

Ok, y'all are making me slightly less terrified of trying. Good to know!

Damn, that was on my list... Might try a round of kisspeptin to get my test up. IM injections of the real thing just scare the crap out of me.

All good! With the possible exception of the mice on their treadmills in non-human trials, you've been the best resource I've found on this stuff.

Any estimate on the difference in bioavailability from oral -> transdermal -> injectable?

I don't wanna ruin anyone's dinner...

Enobosarm (aka Ostarine or MK-2866) is another one besides SLU-PP-332 that I'm hoping to test out soon. Wary of doubling up now while I'm playing with slupp, since I'd like to know which one's doing the heavy lifting, if either give me results; but it's definitely on my radar.

Can you enlighten a noob here -- does this mean tirz injected IM or taking tirz with some kind of muscle gains in mind? For those of you studying or using slupp -- is there any indication that tolerance might increase with usage, so that, say, a 5 day on 2 day off cycle would be helpful? Or...

This is actually one of the reasons I'm seriously considering subbing in some sema in place of tirz. If anything, my smoke breaks have become more frequent lately, after cutting down to close to a 1/2 pack/day pre-GLP-1.

[adds mercury to stack]

I'm completely ignorant of what goes on over in those body builder forums, so I'm not sure what the expectations are, or what their methodologies are for evaluating efficacy. If folks are expecting an immediate physiological response to the drug, they may very well be disappointed -- in my very...

Now this sombitch has some DATA!

I'm tracking dosage, measurements (weight, biceps, chest, etc), protein intake, feelz, and heart rate (just to make sure I'm not going to explode) & sharing updates (when things change) at another forum. Just a few days into the experiment at this point, though, so no particularly useful data yet.

Haven't filled 'em yet, but eyeballing & extrapolating, shouldn't even fill 1/2 the capsule at 100mg.

This is the anticipated transformation.

"Right" as in yeah, 10mg; or "right" as in no, they're taking 10 fucking gram doses?

A 10g dose sounds a little bonkers... 10mg, maybe?

@Someguy22922 I wonder if you could give us a breakdown -- some kind of reasonable guesstimate -- on the differences in bio availability from oral -> transdermal -> injectable? And do you think there's any need to cycle -- like a 5 days on, 2 off -- to avoid increased tolerance?

And 10g is equal to 40000 of those 250mcg pills everyone sells. So pretty damn cheap, if you ask me.

$180 for 10g raws at SSA if you're adventurous.

That'd be fantastic, much appreciated!

I do have some DMSO en route + an ultrasonic water bath cleaner doohickie. Planning to see how many mg I can get per ml that route. Initially thought I had read 2mg/ml DMSO would be near max, but I've heard other sources claiming up to about 30mg/ml.

Wow, thanks for that. Looks maybe slightly easier than rebuilding a carburetor. If I keep up with the slupp after this first batch is finished, I'll plan a little shopping spree.

Completely new territory for me. Any pointers to guides?

Yeah, I really wish I was smarter & could feel comfortable with just shaking up a vial of raws + BAC water to inject. But I'd probably kill myself.

I'm "researching" higher dosages at the moment. Started 1mg 2x daily, to 2mg 2x, 5mg 2x, and today 10mg 2x, working up to 100mg. If I knew how to turn the raws into injectables, I'd be all over that. I have a scale accurate to .001g (calibrated every time I use it just to be sure).

What dosage are you taking, if you don't mind sharing? I had a 10g delivery of raws a few days ago from SSA, have been making capsules.

So besides my 9 to 5 job here at the Green Mamba Dairy Farm, I have a little side hustle roasting coffee. Roaster's out in the unheated garage, but today wasn't terribly cold. Still, with that roaster in front of me and my propane heater blasting right up my backside, I came back in after 3...

Thank you for reminding me -- time to grab my pail and go milk the snakes. I often forget, and the snakes get surly.

So, 5 days trying to just break 100g of protein with actual food hasn't gone well. Today I broke down and had some Greek yogurt + protein powder, and that just made me sad. Yogurt's great for marinading Tandoori chicken or making biryani, but just scooping the stuff into my food hole does not...

23 days in, and I've been arguing with my "smart" thermostat since day 1. Bastard claims it's set to 70 degrees, when it's obviously well below freezing.

It's gotta rhyme or you'll never remember: Jeans are loose, gotta reduce Jeans too tight, dosage too light