SLU-PP-332 as a Workout Replacement

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you could expand on that further and say you should't be doing any of this. everybody has their own line. sorry we crossed yours. wait. not sorry.

I'm not exactly telling this guy to stop taking it, am I? Or saying that you shouldn't be allowed to? I've simply said I wouldn't recommend it and why. I'm a strong proponent of letting adults put whatever they want in their body - I certainly ingest and inject plenty of things detrimental to my health.

We're on a public forum where this sort of thing is discussed and I'm expressing my opinion. I won't pretend to be sorry that I've upset your delicate sensibilities by talking about things, though.

 

[Someguy22922]

I'm not exactly telling this guy to stop taking it, am I? Or saying that you shouldn't be allowed to? I've simply said I wouldn't recommend it and why. I'm a strong proponent of letting adults put whatever they want in their body - I certainly ingest and inject plenty of things detrimental to my health.

We're on a public forum where this sort of thing is discussed and I'm expressing my opinion. I won't pretend to be sorry that I've upset your delicate sensibilities by talking about things, though.

I didn't take any offense to your reply what so ever haha. Sounded like a scientific and reasonable approach to me. Loads of ppl wait for new compounds to have established results in the community before taking them.

I understand there might be severe long term implications. I am a grown ass man and can decide for myself if I accept that risk, which I clearly do.

 

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I didn't take any offense to your reply what so ever haha. Sounded like a scientific and reasonable approach to me. Loads of ppl wait for new compounds to have established results in the community before taking them.

I understand there might be severe long term implications. I am a grown ass man and can decide for myself if I accept that risk, which I clearly do.

Yep! I think that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. You're a grown ass adult, there's scientific evidence of benefit in rodent studies, we know that these results sometimes carry through to humans, there are anecdotal reports of it carrying through to humans, you've got evidence that the benefit is there for you, and you're aware that there are potentially unknown risks. At that point there's not a single thing I can or would say against the choice.


And really, the making an informed choice as an adult is really all it takes. If you decided you wanted to just mainline mercury for some reason and knew what the risks are of that, then fuck it, you do you.

 

[Vicki]

Typically companies try to avoid injections during to piss poor patient compliance. I didn't see anything on oral bioavailability anywhere, but I didn't scan deeply for it. They don't even mention trying an oral suspension or pill.

Working on freeze drying it now. I think to reconstitute you, one would need to provide a specific reconstituion liquid.

That makes sense as most people will never want to self inject anything.

All the studies did an ip injection in the mice which seems to be a preferred method for animal studies. I'm not sure how similar that is to a subq or IM injection though.

Edit to add: they used 10/10/80 dmso, some surfactant called tween solution, and phosphate buffered saline.

 

[jimbothigpen]

[adds mercury to stack]

 

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[adds mercury to stack]

Hope the syphilis gets better, friend.

 

[Someguy22922]

That makes sense as most people will never want to self inject anything.

All the studies did an ip injection in the mice which seems to be a preferred method for animal studies. I'm not sure how similar that is to a subq or IM injection though.

Edit to add: they used 10/10/80 dmso, some surfactant called tween solution, and phosphate buffered saline.

Based off experience I use 10 / 40 / 10 / 40 DMSO / Peg 300 / Tween 20 (not 80, 80 is meant for oil and just floats on top completely separated) / type 1 HPLC water

If you want increased solubility, you can add 100 mg / ml 2 hydroxypropyl beta cyclo dextrin to the HPLC grade water.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

sorry that I've upset your delicate sensibilities by talking about things, though.

when you go on about how stupid something is....

but pretty much nothing offends me. i'm reverting to vintage oyster.

 

[Winty]

I am taking 20mg twice a day, once in morning and once at lunch. I am doing my BP multiple times a day, HR on apple watch, and getting blood panels done weekly for the next 8 weeks while I try this out. I’m currently doing 9mg of muscle tirz every 5 days and going to the gym doing splits 4x a week with 15m elliptical cardio each time.

Let’s see what happens!

I’m not taking any other major supplementation during the experiment.

 

[jimbothigpen]

"muscle tirz every 5 days"

Can you enlighten a noob here -- does this mean tirz injected IM or taking tirz with some kind of muscle gains in mind?

For those of you studying or using slupp -- is there any indication that tolerance might increase with usage, so that, say, a 5 day on 2 day off cycle would be helpful? Or y'all just chugging along with daily doses indefinitely?

 

[Someguy22922]

Can you enlighten a noob here -- does this mean tirz injected IM or taking tirz with some kind of muscle gains in mind?

For those of you studying or using slupp -- is there any indication that tolerance might increase with usage, so that, say, a 5 day on 2 day off cycle would be helpful? Or y'all just chugging along with daily doses indefinitely?

Not that I've noticed. It wouldn't shock me if most ppl using it, assuming they get a positive result, think it becomes less effective over time due to tolerance when in reality they lost weight and need to adjust calories accordingly in order to lose more.

 

[Someguy22922]

I successfully freeze dried and reconstituted SLU, first attempt was only 500 mcg / ml. Gonna try for 1 mg / ml and perhaps up to 5 mg / ml. I don't see anyone attach pics, so I won't bother haha.

 

[jimbothigpen]

I don't see anyone attach pics, so I won't bother haha.

I don't wanna ruin anyone's dinner...

 

[jimbothigpen]

I successfully freeze dried and reconstituted SLU, first attempt was only 500 mcg / ml. Gonna try for 1 mg / ml and perhaps up to 5 mg / ml. I don't see anyone attach pics, so I won't bother haha.

Any estimate on the difference in bioavailability from oral -> transdermal -> injectable?

 

[Someguy22922]

Any estimate on the difference in bioavailability from oral -> transdermal -> injectable?

Absolutely 0 clue haha. Sorry to be completely useless, but better than spreading bullshit I figure.

 

[jimbothigpen]

Absolutely 0 clue haha. Sorry to be completely useless, but better than spreading bullshit I figure.

All good! With the possible exception of the mice on their treadmills in non-human trials, you've been the best resource I've found on this stuff.

 

[Someguy22922]

All good! With the possible exception of the mice on their treadmills in non-human trials, you've been the best resource I've found on this stuff.

I have frequently acted as a human guinea pig haha. Have done some pretty stupid experiments these past few years like take a gram of tren and sit on the couch to see if I got swole. I did not. Just got fat haha.

Took IGF-1 LR3 for the 6 months. Meh. Not worth it.

Slammed an entire gram of AOD 9604 in a few months. Did fuck all.

PEG-MGF did zip.

Despite the fact I still experiment on occasion, the best lessons I can impart are:

Diet is the number 1 factor

Lift things. You don't have to murder yourself. 1 or 2 reps in reserve gave ne better results than constantly going to failure. My joints don't crack all the time anymore either.

Do your cardio. Muscles look dope, but your heart keeps you alive.

Simple, common, often reviewed drugs work best on average for everyone. They say Test is best in the BB world, they aren't lying.

Occasionally something comes along that works exceptionally well. Don't bother taking it if finances or the risks are a concern to you.

 

[jimbothigpen]

take a gram of tren and sit on the couch to see if I got swole. I did not. Just got fat haha.

Damn, that was on my list...

They say Test is best in the BB world, they aren't lying.

Might try a round of kisspeptin to get my test up. IM injections of the real thing just scare the crap out of me.

 

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Damn, that was on my list...

Might try a round of kisspeptin to get my test up. IM injections of the real thing just scare the crap out of me.

You can subq test and other AAS, it just isn't super tenable when you're having to do multiple ML a week.


I'm currently on 200mg test/80mg deca/50mg primo (trying it out as an AI, might drop it if I don't get AI effects, since I doubt 50mg is enough for significant anabolism) a week split between two dosages for my "TRT" (I don't respond super well to test, so I'm actually only slightly out of range on Labcorp values for total test, even at this dose.), and it's about .75ml per. I do it subq.