30-31g 8mm (5/16") Luer Lock or Luer Slip Needles only

[BNLFL]

Needle only. Anyone see these around anywhere? I looked for about an hour this morning with no luck. I know Amazon has some, but I read it feels like a food injection tool. I'd prefer Easy Touch or BD/Embecca. Closest I've seen is 30g 1/2".
Thanks

 

[TooBigtoFail]

What are you trying to use a luer lock needle for? Not for injections I hope... For insulin like injections/glp1, one piece syringes are used. Short needles, and thin. For bulk transfers to fill a vial or when using a filter, a luer lock is common, using a luer lock syringe with a luer lock needle. Those needles are longer, to reach the bottom of a vial, and larger in diameter, for easier, faster transfer flow.

 

[BNLFL]

What are you trying to use a luer lock needle for? Not for injections I hope... For insulin like injections/glp1, one piece syringes are used. Short needles, and thin. For bulk transfers to fill a vial or when using a filter, a luer lock is common, using a luer lock syringe with a luer lock needle. Those needles are longer, to reach the bottom of a vial, and larger in diameter, for easier, faster transfer flow.

Thanks, I know that. I have BD and Easy Touch 31g 8mm for injections. I have 27g 1.5" for the 3ml luer lock for reconning, filtering and stuff.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

What are you trying to use a luer lock needle for? Not for injections I hope... For insulin like injections/glp1, one piece syringes are used. Short needles, and thin. For bulk transfers to fill a vial or when using a filter, a luer lock is common, using a luer lock syringe with a luer lock needle. Those needles are longer, to reach the bottom of a vial, and larger in diameter, for easier, faster transfer flow.

Not all luer lock needles are too long or otherwise inappropriate for injection. The whole idea is you can use a longer, lower gauge needle for recon and filtering.

An insulin syringe is not the only tool.

 

[GTS97]

There are so very many medical supply stores online. I wish I could share the sites I use, but I still have this stupid tag. Literally just google “medical supply store” and you will a dozen.

 

[GTS97]

I can’t even link it, but there is another thread in this same sub-forum talking about this right now.

 

[Minkster]

Needle only. Anyone see these around anywhere? I looked for about an hour this morning with no luck. I know Amazon has some, but I read it feels like a food injection tool. I'd prefer Easy Touch or BD/Embecca. Closest I've seen is 30g 1/2".
Thanks

I've seen 32g 4mm Luer lock needles on Am-zon.

 

[BNLFL]

I've seen 32g 4mm Luer lock needles on Am-zon.

I've seen those. A bunch of reviews say they're not very sharp.

 

[Fordhayes]

Needle only. Anyone see these around anywhere? I looked for about an hour this morning with no luck. I know Amazon has some, but I read it feels like a food injection tool. I'd prefer Easy Touch or BD/Embecca. Closest I've seen is 30g 1/2".
Thanks

 

[CandyCap]

Did you try Underground supply?
https://www.undergroundsupply.shop/product/hypodermic-needle-luer-lock-30g-5-16-8mm/

 

[BNLFL]

Did you try Underground supply?
https://www.undergroundsupply.shop/product/hypodermic-needle-luer-lock-30g-5-16-8mm/

I did, but I'm just not sure on some of these brands. I've also passed on the idea I saw. Thanks.

 

[OldManStrength]

What are you trying to use a luer lock needle for? Not for injections I hope... For insulin like injections/glp1, one piece syringes are used. Short needles, and thin. For bulk transfers to fill a vial or when using a filter, a luer lock is common, using a luer lock syringe with a luer lock needle. Those needles are longer, to reach the bottom of a vial, and larger in diameter, for easier, faster transfer flow.

You can get lure lock or lure slip in any size gauge and wall thickness. It is all I have ever used for decades. I like Lure lock because I never injected with the same needle I draw with. It’s only pennies extra per injection to have a fresh sharp needle that has not gone through a rubber stopper. What do you think hospitals use for injections!

 

[BNLFL]

I skipped that idea. The 31g are fine. I have no problem drawing and pinning. Wife and I didn't even feel the needle. I have 400 1ml and .05 syringes, 31g 8mm.

 

[Fordhayes]

I skipped that idea. The 31g are fine. I have no problem drawing and pinning. Wife and I didn't even feel the needle. I have 400 1ml and .05 syringes, 31g 8mm.

I picked up 200 Nipro 1ml luer slip syringes with 27g ½” needles. Drawing is much faster. For injection I swap to a 30g ½” Easy Touch, which is painless since the needle is fresh and your skin is the first thing it touches.

The downsides are more dead space and the needle switching adds a step. I’ve gone back to preferring a 31g Easy Touch insulin syringe.

I figured out how to make the insulin syringe injections painless. Before injecting, lightly press the needle against the skin. If it feels like it’s going to sting, move a 2-3 mm over. Usually one or two small adjustments finds a spot that’s completely painless. It works because the small adjustment avoids hitting a nerve/pain receptor.

 

[BNLFL]

The downsides are more dead space and the needle switching adds a step. I’ve gone back to preferring a 31g Easy Touch insulin syringe.

I figured out how to make the insulin syringe injections painless. Before injecting, lightly press the needle against the skin. If it feels like it’s going to sting, move a 2-3 mm over. Usually one or two small adjustments finds a spot that’s completely painless. It works because the small adjustment avoids hitting a nerve/pain receptor.

I'll keep that in mind. Last shot was a pinch and poke and was smooth as heck.

 

[msyntakz]

Did you try Underground supply?
https://www.undergroundsupply.shop/product/hypodermic-needle-luer-lock-30g-5-16-8mm/

Have you used these before? Wasn't sure how much brand mattered with needles or not, but I am not seeing a specific brand name mentioned on the product page. I just see Shaotong in the images. Looks like a brand I see a lot of on Amazon.

If they are decent, it would be nice to have these for TRT, as I have lots of 21-25g that I can use for drawing, then swap to a fresh 30g for the SubQ.

 

[woundcarping]

It would be nice to have these for TRT, as I have lots of 21-25g that I can use for drawing, then swap to a fresh 30g for the SubQ.

I have literally hundreds of barrels and needles suitable drawing. Easy Touch 29-30g needles are something like $8-9. It's not an accident I have zero 29-30g needles (although it's not a big deal to me if you want to swap needles every time).

I use 1/2" 29g .5ml insulin syringes, which I also have hundreds of. I went with 29g because the drawing time is decently quicker than 30g. I warm the test vial in a small container of warm water while I'm brushing my teeth/doing other injections/whatever.

 

[msyntakz]

I have literally hundreds of barrels and needles suitable drawing. Easy Touch 29-30g needles are something like $8-9. It's not an accident I have zero 29-30g needles (although it's not a big deal to me if you want to swap needles every time).

I use 1/2" 29g .5ml insulin syringes, which I also have hundreds of. I went with 29g because the drawing time is decently quicker than 30g. I warm the test vial in a small container of warm water while I'm brushing my teeth/doing other injections/whatever.

Hmm, would not have thought going from 30 to 29 would make much difference in draw time. Good to know.

I have a couple hundred 30g 5/16 insulin syringes that I bought for GLP use. The TRT clinic sent me a bunch of barrels along with a bunch of 21 and 25 1" needles to go with them. I figured I could use them for drawing, swap to a 29-30 for injection, so the clinic's supply wasn't going to waste.

 

[woundcarping]

...So the clinic's supply wasn't going to waste.

I use them to recon peptides, although I also bought individually packed 3ml and 5ml syringes and needles as well. (The clinic supplied syringe/needle combos, individually wrapped).

 

[woundcarping]

Hmm, would not have thought going from 30 to 29 would make much difference in draw time. Good to know....

29g offers 20-35% more cross sectional area/flow than a 30g... the marginally bigger radial increase is a squared function.

 

[BNLFL]

Have you used these before? Wasn't sure how much brand mattered with needles or not, but I am not seeing a specific brand name mentioned on the product page. I just see Shaotong in the images. Looks like a brand I see a lot of on Amazon.

If they are decent, it would be nice to have these for TRT, as I have lots of 21-25g that I can use for drawing, then swap to a fresh 30g for the SubQ.

I dropped that idea. I have plenty of 23-25G for recon. I'll stick with my 31g ET and BD's. I'm used to them now. @woundcarping, do you warm them to help draw easier?

 

[woundcarping]

I dropped that idea. I have plenty of 23-25G for recon. I'll stick with my 31g ET and BD's. I'm used to them now. @woundcarping, do you warm them to help draw easier?

Warm what to draw easier? Test vials, yes. Peptides, no.

...I warm the test vial in a small container of warm water while I'm brushing my teeth/doing other injections/whatever.

 

[BNLFL]

Warm what to draw easier? Test vials, yes. Peptides, no.

I see, I miss read it.

 

[woundcarping]

I see, I miss read it.

I do peptides with 5/16-1/2" 30g, usually.

 

[msyntakz]

29g offers 20-35% more cross sectional area/flow than a 30g... the marginally bigger radial increase is a squared function.

 

[BNLFL]

I do peptides with 5/16-1/2" 30g, usually.

Same, but 5/16" 31g. I've got those down fine now. Just need to hit the center of the vial and draw slow.

 

[woundcarping]

Yep, 31g was a bit slower than I cared for for water based, so 30g for peps, 29g for oils.

 

[DrPEPr]

Sometimes the rubber stoppers seem to be too hard for >30g and so the needle goes dull. I thought this wasn't a thing, but I've done some stabby stabby before and after and it does make a huge difference.

I now settle with these... And bonus... It's dishwasher safe!


( j/k , I now use the BD Microfine 29G )

 

[BNLFL]

Sometimes the rubber stoppers seem to be too hard for >30g and so the needle goes dull. I thought this wasn't a thing, but I've done some stabby stabby before and after and it does make a huge difference.

I now settle with these... And bonus... It's dishwasher safe!
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( j/k , I now use the BD Microfine 29G )

I have a couple of those that came with some Cajun injection stuff for poultry.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

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