5-Amino-1MQ Injectable Experiences?

I am really curious if weight plays a factor in how well this works for people. As NNMT levels are higher in those who are heavier. It is highly likely that those who say it did not work for them are at (or close to) goal weight?
 
This is what I heard as well. Another issue is that the dosage for inj is all over the board. I've heard 1-5mg and I've heard up to 250mg. I started at .5mg today and felt energy. I"m also taking NAD as well. I do need to lose weight.
 
RicFlair said:
holy moly this blows my 0.5 mg out of the water lol. Looks like i need to start titrating up quickly and see how it works with me. How long will you be cycling it for? I have two kits of 5-amino 5mg so im hoping now that if i have to take a whole vial a day, it will do me any good. @eidos
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Me I'm a scaredy cat. I started at .5 mg.
 
eidos said:
It's excellent. It completely eliminates the fatigue caused by diabetes and Reta treatment. I'm taking 5 mg subcutaneously per day. I tried 10 mg, but it wasn't better, and the drop was too rapid.

a feeling of better ventilation during exercise, less lactic acid, and a heart rate that’s about 10 bpm lower.

I reconstitute it with sterile water for injection. It’s a quaternary ammonium compound, so it’s an antimicrobial. Be careful not to make a mess when you flush the needle: don’t do the injection while wearing clothes you care about.

I've seen people injecting 50 mg a day (not orally, but subcutaneously). According to the research I've read, the dose-response curve flattens out early, below the equivalent of 50 mg in humans. Plus, it's possibly a mutagen, so I wouldn't risk taking high doses. (The color reminds me of ethidium bromide: maybe that's what's holding me back to a lower dose).

What interests me greatly is that this would lower homocysteine levels and erase the epigenetic memory of fat cells, thereby preventing weight regain. We'll talk about it again in a year or two.
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"reconstitute it with sterile water" Does it call for sterile water or do you choose to use it instead of BAC water? I have ordered some but haven't fully learned all I need to know yet. Thanks
 
BlueDog55 said:
do you choose to use it instead of BAC water?
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Quaternary ammonium compounds are antimicrobials. You’ll find them in disinfectant wipes and certain medical-grade antiseptics (often benzalkonium). BA is a bacteriostatic agent; it wouldn’t be any more effective, so I don’t think there’s any point in adding it.
 
eidos said:
Quaternary ammonium compounds are antimicrobials. You’ll find them in disinfectant wipes and certain medical-grade antiseptics (often benzalkonium). BA is a bacteriostatic agent; it wouldn’t be any more effective, so I don’t think there’s any point in adding it.
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Am I understanding you correctly using either one is fine? I have BAC on hand so will just use it if I am understanding you correctly.
 
Swamp Thing said:
0.08ml daily of 5amino. From a US supply. 20ml bottle liquid form. $85 plus shipping better than others.
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It's like hearing your family pet tell you what to cook for dinner 😂

  • 8 units/0.08ml is not a dose.
  • There is no US supply. It's all from china.
  • 20ml bottle but you inject 0.08ml? What even
  • You are being robbed, we pay $85 plus shipping for ten bottles.
Can we get a moment of silence for this single vial warrior?
 
5 Amino for my wife and I has been amazing. We are at 3mg and use it as part of a pre workout pep.
 
birdwhacker said:
It's like hearing your family pet tell you what to cook for dinner 😂

  • 8 units/0.08ml is not a dose.
  • There is no US supply. It's all from china.
  • 20ml bottle but you inject 0.08ml? What even
  • You are being robbed, we pay $85 plus shipping for ten bottles.
Can we get a moment of silence for this single vial warrior?
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I fat fingered it. 0.80ml is what I should have typed. Thank you. now sit down, it doesn't all come from China. Ever heard of domestic brewers? $85 for one 20ml bottle of something that is far better than what you obtain from China.
 
Swamp Thing said:
I fat fingered it. 0.80ml is what I should have typed. Thank you. now sit down, it doesn't all come from China. Ever heard of domestic brewers?
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Shit, totally forgot about domestic amimos.

Sorry, you caught me at a bad time in the deficit.
 
Mind if I ask, what kind of test did you tank? I take slu-pp-332 inj. daily. And I had to pay the State $741. Sounds like we living the same life. lol
birdwhacker said:
I'm sorry to hear it. Bad week over here. Tanked my test with SLU-PP-332 and just found out I have an overdue traffic ticket!
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Swamp Thing said:
Mind if I ask, what kind of test did you tank? I take slu-pp-332 inj. daily. And I had to pay the State $741. Sounds like we living the same life. lol
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I h8 the st8 bro

And I crashed my testosterone levels lol. Apparently SLU can do that to men, particularly when taken at higher doses (100+mg) and while in a heavy calorie deficit.

But it seems like it could be beneficial for some people at 10-20mg orally. Particularly those not in a huge deficit, who've stalled, or those who are bulking and don't want to gain too much fat.
 
birdwhacker said:
I h8 the st8 bro

And I crashed my testosterone levels lol. Apparently SLU can do that to men, particularly when taken at higher doses (100+mg) and while in a heavy calorie deficit.

But it seems like it could be beneficial for some people at 10-20mg orally. Particularly those not in a huge deficit, who've stalled, or those who are bulking and don't want to gain too much fat.
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I am doing 0.50ml daily. Same vendor as my 5amino. It is 7.5mg/ml.
 
Trying to dial in my energy stack and I'm currently running SS-31 and NAD+

Been doing 5mg of SS-31 daily for the past two weeks and introduced NAD+ at 25mg last week MWF. Planning on doing this for a few more weeks (potentially upping the NAD to 50mg) before introducing some MOTS-c into the mix.

5 Amino has got me curious, though I'm wondering if I should just stay the course with my plan or introduce 5 Amino as well.

For reference: 44yo male, lifting 3x per week, shooting for body recomp.
 
thebonus said:
Trying to dial in my energy stack and I'm currently running SS-31 and NAD+

Been doing 5mg of SS-31 daily for the past two weeks and introduced NAD+ at 25mg last week MWF. Planning on doing this for a few more weeks (potentially upping the NAD to 50mg) before introducing some MOTS-c into the mix.

5 Amino has got me curious, though I'm wondering if I should just stay the course with my plan or introduce 5 Amino as well.

For reference: 44yo male, lifting 3x per week, shooting for body recomp.
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My understanding, which I admit I’m still working on lol, is that NAD & 5AM are a good pair, the 5AM basically preventing the NAD you’ve added from being wasted by the body
 
Hey
I took 1mg of 5-Amino, mainly during my night shifts. Shortly after taking it, I would feel a gentle internal warmth and a lot of energy. I’ve used NAD+ before, but I felt that with NAD, I’d get an energy spike lasting 2 or 3 hours, followed immediately by intense fatigue. With 5-Amino, I didn't experience that sharp energy spike or the sudden crash afterward. I preferred 5-Amino.
 
Video by Josh Holyfield said these dosages are far too low.
I planned on starting at 25mg daily to finish a kit in like a week but now I might do 50...

Thoughts?
 
I ran it 10 mg/day (5mg morning and 5mg pre-workout). Loved it. I used it as a bridge between my MOTS/SS31 cycles. Here's what I did:
Week 1-2: 25 mg NAD daily
Week 3-10: 50 mg NAD daily, 2 mg MOTS daily (I prefer this to the large doses 3x/week) and 4mg SS31 daily. Titrated MOTS and SS up first week and down last week
Week 11-12: 25 mg NAD daily, 10 mg 5Amino (split dose)
Week 13-14: 10 mg 5Amino (split dose)
 
jmon1977 said:
I ran it 10 mg/day (5mg morning and 5mg pre-workout). Loved it. I used it as a bridge between my MOTS/SS31 cycles. Here's what I did:
Week 1-2: 25 mg NAD daily
Week 3-10: 50 mg NAD daily, 2 mg MOTS daily (I prefer this to the large doses 3x/week) and 4mg SS31 daily. Titrated MOTS and SS up first week and down last week
Week 11-12: 25 mg NAD daily, 10 mg 5Amino (split dose)
Week 13-14: 10 mg 5Amino (split dose)
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I'm about to do a variation of that. Any side effects to watch out for?
 
Only negative side effect I had was when taking MOTS-C too close to my workout, I would get some shortness of breath. Changed it to first thing in the morning and no problems
 
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