A Question for Experienced Researchers

[angela_a]

Let me preface this post by stating that yes, I'm relatively new to this. I have a situation so please give me your honest opinion.

I purchased from a vendor listed in the vendor portal. I joined their Telegram and Discord and after reading many comments in both of those places, I decided to make a purchase.

One of the items I purchased was a few kits of GH*-C* 50 mg. The seller confirmed my order. I received the products and the two kits I mentioned above were listed as 50 mg on the container I received. So, I labeled them and sent one vial to the lab for testing. I received the CoA today and this particular product tested at 117 mgs.

I contacted the seller to inform her of the error and requested a reship of the correct item or a credit for my next order. At $225 a pop for testing, it makes no financial sense to relabel and retest.

I won't get into detail but 28 of these items were not for personal use. My COA was to accompany the product when received by others.

The vendor responded and informed me that I could either re-label with 100 mg or keep them labeled as 50 mg but she wasn't going to reship what I'd actually ordered or issue a credit on the next order.

If these were all for personal use, I'd be ok with it (more for me, right?) but they aren't.

I'm pretty bothered by the whole thing but at the same time, realize that this is grey market and it's risky.

But damn...

 

[pavlovs]

In the interest of harm reduction, can you name the vendor, please? There is a possibility that someone here may know the vendor or know someone who can help. If it were me, I'd label the GHK with 117mg and proceed this way. It is twice as much product, and even though the seller isn't making it right, you got two kits of 117 at the 50mg price. The fact that they mislabeled it is a big deal though. I wouldn't order from them again because of the mislabeling, suggesting you keep it labeled at 50 and because of the refusal to make it right, however, in this case, their mistake benefits you.

If the other people involved are friends/family, they should understand. If you are reselling to strangers and your business reputation depends on this, then you probably should buy new kits from a more reputable seller. Other than that, I don't think there is anything you can do other than hope someone here has contacts with vendor.

Also, could you please post the COA?

Just my two cents, and I am not exactly an old pro myself, am interested to see what others have to say.

 

[angela_a]

In the interest of harm reduction, can you name the vendor, please? There is a possibility that someone here may know the vendor or know someone who can help. If it were me, I'd label the GHK with 117mg and proceed this way. It is twice as much product, and even though the seller isn't making it right, you got two kits of 117 at the 50mg price. The fact that they mislabeled it is a big deal though. I wouldn't order from them again because of the mislabeling, suggesting you keep it labeled at 50 and because of the refusal to make it right, however, in this case, their mistake benefits you.

If the other people involved are friends/family, they should understand. If you are reselling to strangers and your business reputation depends on this, then you probably should buy new kits from a more reputable seller. Other than that, I don't think there is anything you can do other than hope someone here has contacts with vendor.

Also, could you please post the COA?

Just my two cents, and I am not exactly an old pro myself, am interested to see what others have to say.

 

[angela_a]

Here you go. Vendor name is in the second message. I have a friend who's willing to buy them from me so in that aspect, I'm okay. My main concern is inspeaking with a lot of people, they think the vendor's certificates have weight and don't test on their own. I can't imagine what would happen if someone were to use this thinking it was 50 mg

 

[TooBigtoFail]

Without your testing, Imagine the damage this could have caused to the folks downstream. Its bad enough the content between vials in the same kit, can vary by +/-10%, but this sloppiness is over the top. Name please. Thanks for sharing.

 

[dont_wanna_be_fat]

Thanks for sharing.

 

[angela_a]

Without your testing, Imagine the damage this could have caused to the folks downstream. Its bad enough the content between vials in the same kit, can vary by +/-10%, but this sloppiness is over the top. Name please. Thanks for sharing.

SRY is the vendor.

 

[pavlovs]

Thanks for sharing the vendor and the experience you had. There may be others who see this message and will at least have been made aware of SRY's mistake and its unacceptable response when you pointed it out. It's unlikely that they will contact the people who bought this kit and let them know, so thank you for doing that.

 

[angela_a]

Thanks for sharing the vendor and the experience you had. There may be others who see this message and will at least have been made aware of SRY's mistake and its unacceptable response when you pointed it out. It's unlikely that they will contact the people who bought this kit and let them know, so thank you for doing that.

I had to. People could potentially get hurt.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

I wonder how often this happens. I just got my R30 kits from SRY, now I'm apprehensive about using them.

 

[angela_a]

I wonder how often this happens. I just got my R30 kits from SRY, now I'm apprehensive about using them.

Please test. That's all I can say.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

Am I dumb and I can't see where to order a test from Freedom?

 

[angela_a]

Am I dumb and I can't see where to order a test from Freedom?

You can just Google Freedom Diagnostics.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

You can just Google Freedom Diagnostics.

I did, I go to their site and don't see anywhere to get a test done. I just see COA lookup.

 

[angela_a]

I did, I go to their site and don't see anywhere to get a test done. I just see COA lookup.

I'm sorry I misunderstood your initial statement. Here's where I found their contact form: https://freedomdiagnosticstesting.com/contact-1/

 

[texmexpep]

I want to thank you for posting this! I ordered Klow and Nad a couple weeks ago. The day after, I was told they ran out of Nad in US so I looked at something comparable in price and settled on 2 kits of ghk instead of waiting (and didn't have to pay the price difference 👍)
The other day I was looking for test groups and saw comments about it testing over 100mg. Curious if I had the same batch, you just confirmed that for me. 🥰
What surprises me is SRY hasn't said anything about it yet!
I don't know when I'll use mine. I'm currently stocking my new freezer for the apocalypse. These vials might be great to share with a friend though!

 

[IshimaruKenta]

I'm sorry I misunderstood your initial statement. Here's where I found their contact form: https://freedomdiagnosticstesting.com/contact-1/

Thanks! I thought I was missing something big. They're cheaper than Jano and Peptide Test, are they as reliable?

Sorry for all the confusion. 😅

 

[angela_a]

I want to thank you for posting this! I ordered Klow and Nad a couple weeks ago. The day after, I was told they ran out of Nad in US so I looked at something comparable in price and settled on 2 kits of ghk instead of waiting (and didn't have to pay the price difference 👍)
The other day I was looking for test groups and saw comments about it testing over 100mg. Curious if I had the same batch, you just confirmed that for me. 🥰
What surprises me is SRY hasn't said anything about it yet!
I don't know when I'll use mine. I'm currently stocking my new freezer for the apocalypse. These vials might be great to share with a friend though!

This is the report she sent to me after the fact and the report from the lab I used. And aren't we all stocking our freezers?

 

[angela_a]

Thanks! I thought I was missing something big. They're cheaper than Jano and Peptide Test, are they as reliable?

Sorry for all the confusion. 😅

Well, they are cheaper than both. I really can't say if they are as reliable I mean I think so they gave me the information I was looking for

 

[texmexpep]

And aren't we all stocking our freezers?

🤷‍♀️

 

[nonyabizznez]

Kudos on getting your product tested!

It looks like this product comes from a time when SRY was having fill problems with a lot of products. They may have submitted for a 100mg test and their sample came up short so they sold it as lower mg. Here's my previous post on their issues at the time: (it's not regarding Nexaph despite the link title)

Nexaph vial foreign objects?

Hate to say it but I think Cain might be getting too big for his britches

glp1forum.com

Despite the disappoint with SRY you might find the recipients happy getting double when you greet them with the great news! 😉

 

[desinr-gal]

This is the report she sent to me after the fact and the report from the lab I used. And aren't we all stocking our freezers?

That is a big difference between the two! 86 and 116..

 

[Rejuvenateme000!]

Let me preface this post by stating that yes, I'm relatively new to this. I have a situation so please give me your honest opinion.

I purchased from a vendor listed in the vendor portal. I joined their Telegram and Discord and after reading many comments in both of those places, I decided to make a purchase.

One of the items I purchased was a few kits of GH*-C* 50 mg. The seller confirmed my order. I received the products and the two kits I mentioned above were listed as 50 mg on the container I received. So, I labeled them and sent one vial to the lab for testing. I received the CoA today and this particular product tested at 117 mgs.

I contacted the seller to inform her of the error and requested a reship of the correct item or a credit for my next order. At $225 a pop for testing, it makes no financial sense to relabel and retest.

I won't get into detail but 28 of these items were not for personal use. My COA was to accompany the product when received by others.

The vendor responded and informed me that I could either re-label with 100 mg or keep them labeled as 50 mg but she wasn't going to reship what I'd actually ordered or issue a credit on the next order.

If these were all for personal use, I'd be ok with it (more for me, right?) but they aren't.

I'm pretty bothered by the whole thing but at the same time, realize that this is grey market and it's risky.

But damn...

I thought about your post all night. I wasn't going to get anything tested but as a novice, now I'm a lil nervous. I didn't order from them though. I did hcg many many years ago from India and never once thought about testing.

 

[indolent]

A recent Finnrick-submitted test performed by another less-used lab, Krause, came back at 95.3mg for a well-tested (by other labs, which had slight-overfill consensus) Nexa 60mg tirz batch.

Although every lab has its own methodology, which gives a small variation to results, we can't assume that small/new lab players know what they're doing to arrive in the ballpark. I think your best bet at this point would be to send a vial off to Janoshik, even though it's a lot more expensive. They're the established standard in the grey market.

 

[Wellwell]

Don't take this as me taking up for SRY because I no longer buy from them or trust their product.

Most suppliers will only take Jano tests seriously. If you want some money back for underfill or low purity they will ask for the jano.
Normally test groups get 3 vials tested and use the average because it's expected that what's on the sticker is not what's in the vials. You do get over fill and not every vial will be the same. I do agree that it's a big spread between the two tests. Because you used a different lab and only tested one vial we don't know how much of the difference is between the vials and how much is the lab.

From the sellers point of view, you got more than you paid for and you made a choice to trust a different lab.
You can see if any test groups are open or have shared their results for your batch. Take an average and label accordingly.

 

[LuckyLukey]

Here you go. Vendor name is in the second message. I have a friend who's willing to buy them from me so in that aspect, I'm okay. My main concern is inspeaking with a lot of people, they think the vendor's certificates have weight and don't test on their own. I can't imagine what would happen if someone were to use this thinking it was 50 mg

Thank you for this. In ordered a few things from SRY to add to overstock. I have it set aside to test or find test groups. When I have some free time I’m going to see if I can find any other private tests from this one. Eek!

 

[retnewb]

As sponsorships as I read your post I knew the company you were going to say because
I had a similar experience with the same company, though in my case it was 90mg. I’ll take responsibility for missing it at first—they sent me a large number of test results for different products, and I overlooked it in all the reports. When I finally noticed, I saw it was clearly listed at 90mg.

They explained that the product was originally supposed to be 100mg, but they came up short. As a result, they’re selling all of them as 50mg and giving extra until a new batch is ready. They pretty much said it wasnt dangerous and to just lower the does

They did offer me a discount on future orders, the service abd communication was excellent but I’m still not sure I’ll order from them again because that will worry me moving forward