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Was using tirz and worked straight away, then sort of stopped even when upping dosage
Was using up to 10mg per week of tirz
Even used 12.5mg and then 15mg

Tbh didn’t really help or do anything for me although in the beginning it did

Just purchased reta and cagri

What dose should i start both on ?

I must have a high tolerance cos once i started tirz it worked in the beginning then stopped , even when upping dosages

Any advise
 
Low and slow is best to make sure you don’t have side effects. Ask ChatGPT with is the starting dose, it will even help you plan how to tirtrate up week to week.

Also I would stop Tirzepatide before starting. I would even wait a few weeks for it to be out of my system if I was taking 15mg Tirz.

FYI, you may gain weight in this period don’t fret. You will lose it and more once the Reta kicks in about a month to two months in. You got this!
 
Reta with cagri is on my radar as well since the cagri may help with food noise suppression until the dose of reta is high enough.

Regarding switching, I don't believe a washout period is needed since the starting doses would already be low.

Google Gemini recommends starting at 0.25 mg/week for cagri (when taken with the GLP sema, but it would be reta in this case) and starting at 0.5 to 1.0 mg/week for reta:

You're asking about two different investigational drugs: cagrilintide and retatrutide.

It's important to understand that:

  • Neither cagrilintide nor retatrutide are currently approved for general clinical use. They are still in clinical trials. This means there isn't a "standard" starting dose established for prescription in a typical doctor's office.
  • You would not typically start cagrilintide when starting with retatrutide, as they are separate medications, though both are being investigated for weight management. Clinical trials would test them individually or in specific combinations.
Let's break down what's known about their starting doses in clinical trials:

Cagrilintide:

  • Cagrilintide is often being studied in combination with semaglutide as CagriSema.1

  • In clinical trials for CagriSema, a gradual dose-escalation approach is used.2 Participants often start with a low dose, such as 0.25 mg per week for both cagrilintide and semaglutide, and then the doses are co-escalated over several weeks (e.g., to 0.5 mg, 1.0 mg, 1.7 mg, and finally to a maintenance dose of 2.4 mg per week for each medication over 16 weeks).

  • In studies of cagrilintide alone, doses have ranged from 0.3 mg to 4.5 mg per week. Some studies have started participants at 0.6 mg per week, doubling the dose every two weeks to reach 2.4 mg per week by the fourth week.3
Retatrutide:

  • Retatrutide is a triple-agonist, acting on GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptors.4

  • Similar to other injectable weight loss medications in development, retatrutide trials also use a dose titration approach.
  • A typical starting dose in clinical trials for retatrutide has been around 0.5 mg to 1 mg per week.
  • The dose is then gradually increased over several weeks (e.g., to 2 mg, 4 mg, 8 mg, and eventually to a highest studied dose of 12 mg per week, or even 20 mg in some earlier studies).
Key Takeaway:

Since both cagrilintide and retatrutide are investigational, their dosing protocols are part of ongoing research. Any use of these medications would be within the context of a clinical trial, where specific protocols for starting and escalating doses would be followed under strict medical supervision. They are not available for prescription outside of these research settings.
 
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Another option would be to just try the cagri first, with tirz:

Having stacked Tirz, Cagri and Reta, if food noise is annoying you, add Cagri. Low doses can reduce the food craving or completely stop you from eating altogether. Works wonder for me as I am at max dose for Tirz.
OTOH:
I added Cagri to my Tirz months ago and didn't have any effects (multiple vendors product). It wasn't until I was over 1mg that I noticed my low dose Tirz (5mg) was supressing through days 5/6. So it's hard to put my finger on but I continue to take it. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Might I suggest that you try microdosing Reta to get over the food noise hump before you enter the rabbit hole of stacking peptides? Microdosing will allow it to build up in your system quicker than if you dose once weekly (Reta has a 6 day half life). You can also start low on your first shot (1 mg) and increase incrementally on the next few shots as long as you don't have any heart palps. Remember, Reta is not tirz. You don't have any idea how well you will respond to it. When you start it with cagri you will never really know.
 
Would this mean a 6 day injection schedule could be advisable? Or stay with the standard weekly shot?
I microdose Reta and prefer it to once weekly injections. I’m still on a lower dose and taking it slow (based on the potential symptoms) but I haven’t had any issues and have started noticing a difference. It’s almost been a month total on Reta with 3 weeks at micro dosing.

Of course, do you due diligence and make sure the pros outweigh the cons for you!
 
I microdose Reta and prefer it to once weekly injections. I’m still on a lower dose and taking it slow (based on the potential symptoms) but I haven’t had any issues and have started noticing a difference. It’s almost been a month total on Reta with 3 weeks at micro dosing.

Of course, do you due diligence and make sure the pros outweigh the cons for you!
Are you microdosing daily? I was toying with the idea
 
I posted my experience from T15 to Reta & Cagri on another platform, and I believe on here too, as someone else posted a Reta/Cagri thread a few weeks back on here. Long short of it, began Reta @ 1 & cagri .125mcg. The Cagri I began first while on T15 roughly 5 months, titrating to T10. Once I got to T10, I began Reta 1mg the following week ( dropped Tirz). There are so many varied ways people are researching, it's difficult to say what will work for you. Since I hit maintenance, I am able to get good baselines due to better flexibility.
 

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