Any heavy lifters out there??

[BillGoldberg]

Anyone lift heavy weights on a GLP-1?? I have been on Reta for 3 weeks. 4 mg a week. When I lift I feel completely wasted during and after the workout. I workout hard so after the workout is common for me. A couple days I felt like I was on the verge of going hypo during workouts. Started pushing a little heavier this week because I’ve been out with an injury. I don’t know if I’m just not eating enough or what. Today I got super lightheaded almost felt like I was going down. Don’t know if anyone supplements with anything preworkout or any tips from anyone that’s been doing this a little longer then I have. Thanks to anyone with input. Appreciate it.

 

[rkl123]

Anyone lift heavy weights on a GLP-1?? I have been on Reta for 3 weeks. 4 mg a week. When I lift I feel completely wasted during and after the workout. I workout hard so after the workout is common for me. A couple days I felt like I was on the verge of going hypo during workouts. Started pushing a little heavier this week because I’ve been out with an injury. I don’t know if I’m just not eating enough or what. Today I got super lightheaded almost felt like I was going down. Don’t know if anyone supplements with anything preworkout or any tips from anyone that’s been doing this a little longer then I have. Thanks to anyone with input. Appreciate it.

Up your carbs

 

[CrabbyD]

Natty other than Tirz 7.5 q week and sema 1mg q week. I can tell a huge difference lifting on glp1. I feel like it's mostly because the calorie deficit. Pre-workout and multi vitamins keeps me feeling pretty good at the gym. I find that GLP1s are not a "feel good" med, I'm constantly in a drained near nausea state.

I am still in the gym 5 days a week. On my bad days, I need to remind myself what a piece of shit I am so I can power through and be the better person I want to be.

 

[CrabbyD]

Up your carbs

Probably very correct! However I gave them up. I'm sticking to trash talking myself for motivation.

 

[Peptoidian]

I lift regularly, but I would not call what I do 'heavy' (as I've gotten older I've had to change my focus to injury prevention.) When I started Tirz, I was initially surprised how much weaker I felt in the gym. I suspect it was due to lower glycogen stores. I subsequently made an effort to ensure I was hitting my daily protein target (1g/lb) and my strength came back. So you probably just need to eat more.

 

[BillGoldberg]

Thank you for the responses. I’m going to put these recommendations into practice and see if it gets better. 🤙🏻

 

[hexagonal]

Anyone lift heavy weights on a GLP-1?? I have been on Reta for 3 weeks. 4 mg a week. When I lift I feel completely wasted during and after the workout. I workout hard so after the workout is common for me. A couple days I felt like I was on the verge of going hypo during workouts. Started pushing a little heavier this week because I’ve been out with an injury. I don’t know if I’m just not eating enough or what. Today I got super lightheaded almost felt like I was going down. Don’t know if anyone supplements with anything preworkout or any tips from anyone that’s been doing this a little longer then I have. Thanks to anyone with input. Appreciate it.

I wouldn't call it heavy, but I'm lifting 5 days a week, 8 exercises a day, 4 sets on 1-2 major compounds each day, 3 sets on isolations, going to 1-2 RIR for the first sets, then for everything I can fail safely, to failure and then lengthened partials until I can't even do those on the last set.

This was tough for me on tirz but fine for me on reta. My diet isn't dialed in macro wise on most days beyond a truckload of protein. Probably have more carbs than I should. On 8mg of reta split between two doses mon/thurs

 

[BillGoldberg]

Up my carbs ?? So my inner fat kid hears “doughnuts are back on the table”

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

some say slu-pp-332 gives a boost to workouts. I personally haven't experienced it.

 

[BillGoldberg]

some say slu-pp-332 gives a boost to workouts. I personally haven't experienced it.

I just posted about that a few days ago.

 

[mopo89]

I had to stop lifting because I haven't been able to eat enough to sustain it. All I can really manage is some light cardio.

I do have some slupp on the way though, so I might try that out and see if I'm able to lift.

 

[keangkong]

I had to stop lifting because I haven't been able to eat enough to sustain it. All I can really manage is some light cardio.

I do have some slupp on the way though, so I might try that out and see if I'm able to lift.

What is slupp?

 

[keangkong]

I wasn't lifting heavy even before I started on a GLP-1 medication. I do lift to prevent losing a huge amount of muscle while on a GLP-1 medication. However, progress has been very slow. When I've previously lifted after not lifting for a while, I always made rapid gains. Things are going quite slow right now. My endo advised that I up my protein to 1.6 grams per kilograms of body weight.

 

[StingerBee]

Me! I am female average lifting 3-4 days a week, I am not finding any strength less but then again I am also on ipamorelin 2X a day am/pm.
I am also on smaller maintenance doses of tirz and reta, my main focus now is muscle size and strength
Creative maybe??? I supplement this daily

 

[BillGoldberg]

Me! I am female average lifting 3-4 days a week, I am not finding any strength less but then again I am also on ipamorelin 2X a day am/pm.
I am also on smaller maintenance doses of tirz and reta, my main focus now is muscle size and strength
Creative maybe??? I supplement this daily

I’m super creative 🤣🤣🤣. I knew what you meant though. Did you switch from a higher dose at first or like a bodybuilder using glp-1’s for maintenance??

 

[mopo89]

What is slupp?

slu-pp-332. i affectionately call it slupp.
i will say though, it has no human trials so i'm a bit scared to try it, lol.

 

[ford54]

i dont life heavy anymore... but i do lift consistently... its been almost a year on GLP1s... and my cardio and endurance is through the roof. i just feel better overall... i am also the leanest i have been in almost 15years. also my joints feel a ton better... i'm currently using only 15mg tirz.. started out at 1mg.
the lethargy was killer the first 3 months or so.. after that, it wore off, and i have a ton more energy.
my theory is for those with a completely wrecked metabolism due to years of poor diet/lifestyle, they will have to endure lethargy until the body internally heals.
i'd say my metabolism, vascular system, etc moved to the positive, and thats when i stopped experiencing lethargy.

 

[Laxfinity]

Anyone lift heavy weights on a GLP-1?? I have been on Reta for 3 weeks. 4 mg a week. When I lift I feel completely wasted during and after the workout. I workout hard so after the workout is common for me. A couple days I felt like I was on the verge of going hypo during workouts. Started pushing a little heavier this week because I’ve been out with an injury. I don’t know if I’m just not eating enough or what. Today I got super lightheaded almost felt like I was going down. Don’t know if anyone supplements with anything preworkout or any tips from anyone that’s been doing this a little longer then I have. Thanks to anyone with input. Appreciate it.

@BenevolentMrTang .. just copy and paste what you said the other day? 🤣

Yes.. I do consider you one of my "experts" on this because you ae currently using everything I am asking about.. and I think it will help Mr. Goldberg...

Thanks!

 

[BenevolentMrTang]

@BenevolentMrTang .. just copy and paste what you said the other day? 🤣

Yes.. I do consider you one of my "experts" on this because you ae currently using everything I am asking about.. and I think it will help Mr. Goldberg...

Thanks!

I'm not sure what I said or where I said it 🙂 , but I would indeed recommend some SLU-PP-332 for endurance and reducing the feeling of being drained after a tough workout. I find it helps more for cardio than weight training, but I honestly feel some improvement in strength and endurance when lifting. It's easy to quantify with cardio. If I can do 2 hours without getting tired instead of 1 hour, then the benefit is obvious. With weight training, maybe some of the benefit is purely psychological, but I do feel a little stronger and not as drained following a workout.

Other than that, I'm currently at 9.5mg of Reta per week. That helps with energy throughout the day. Also, gotta eat enough protein, which is a fairly obvious observation.

Finally, TRT. Do it if you can, but make sure you monitor yourself with regular testing. When I was on TRT years ago, it certainly helped a lot, notwithstanding the fact that I was using it in a dumb form (gel) when I should have been using injectable.

 

[BenevolentMrTang]

Also, don't go so hard in your workout. Unless you are training as a competitive athlete, give yourself a break and don't overdo it. A few months ago, I overdid a workout and felt like absolute crap for a couple days. And I asked myself, why? Why am I going so hard to the point of injury? IDK. But don't do it. Your primary goal should be to maintain your health. You want to get the benefits of lifting, but it's counterproductive to injure yourself by going too hard for no good reason.

 

[Theotherone55]

some say slu-pp-332 gives a boost to workouts. I personally haven't experienced it.

there are literally 100 other things you could suggest for someone fighting fatigue BEFORE SLU...

It's like having a headache and telling him/her they should get a CT scan to check for tumors. WAY unnecessary.

OP, what does your diet look like? Do you drink caffeine at all?

 

[BenevolentMrTang]

there are literally 100 other things you could suggest for someone fighting fatigue BEFORE SLU...

It's like having a headache and telling him/her they should get a CT scan to check for tumors. WAY unnecessary.

OP, what does your diet look like? Do you drink caffeine at all?

This is a peptide forum, after all, and the poster I replied to was inviting me to offer my thoughts on a subject I have discussed here and elsewhere. Some of these substances are profoundly strong and effective. I know the science is not proven on SLU-PP-332 yet and may not be proven for years, if ever, but my personal experience is that it works better than anything I have encountered in my life. So, yeah, I encourage people to use it. TRT has been around a long time, and it works.

I would assume that the OP knows about the common sense remedies for fatigue.

You're tired? Get more rest. That's pretty helpful. Change your diet if it sucks. Is that what you had in mind? I thought my advice about not overdoing it is pretty common sense and simple.

 

[Theotherone55]

This is a peptide forum, after all, and the poster I replied to was inviting me to offer my thoughts on a subject I have discussed here and elsewhere. Some of these substances are profoundly strong and effective. I know the science is not proven on SLU-PP-332 yet and may not be proven for years, if ever, but my personal experience is that it works better than anything I have encountered in my life. So, yeah, I encourage people to use it. TRT has been around a long time, and it works.

I would assume that the OP knows about the common sense remedies for fatigue.

You're tired? Get more rest. That's pretty helpful. Change your diet if it sucks. Is that what you had in mind? I thought my advice about not overdoing it is pretty common sense and simple.

Why not let the actual person I tagged chime in before you come in hot buddy.
I didnt even readdd your post and somehow you reply to me like you're the SLU authority and i said something to you 😂

No matter what justification you say, adding an exercise mimetic like SLU should not be the first line of defense against fatigue. The OP didn't start this thread because he's asking for a boost for his workouts...he's stating a problem that he's noticed since taking reta. Anyone trying to problem solve would try to brain storm about WHY this is happening rather than what he should add to his stack to fix it. That's common sense. No problem with encouraging people to use it...but do it to work toward a goal, not to try a fix a possible serious problem.
Also, why not suggest GW501516? Why not nootropics? Why not kanna?

I'm also replying to this as someone who has used ALL OF THIS, so its not new and hot and trendy for me to suggest it.

 

[Sunflower]

Anyone lift heavy weights on a GLP-1?? I have been on Reta for 3 weeks. 4 mg a week. When I lift I feel completely wasted during and after the workout. I workout hard so after the workout is common for me. A couple days I felt like I was on the verge of going hypo during workouts. Started pushing a little heavier this week because I’ve been out with an injury. I don’t know if I’m just not eating enough or what. Today I got super lightheaded almost felt like I was going down. Don’t know if anyone supplements with anything preworkout or any tips from anyone that’s been doing this a little longer then I have. Thanks to anyone with input. Appreciate it.

Yeah, I had the same experience trying to lift early on with Tirz/ Reta. It’s mostly subsided now, but I still feel mentally tired resistance to getting to the gym, tho it disappears when I get to lifting.

Two male peptide bodybuilders I follow are dosing Reta 3x/wk at 0.5-1mg per dose, for cutting purposes while maintaining energy. They suggest doing this cycle for maybe 1-3 months.

 

[BenevolentMrTang]

Why not let the actual person I tagged chime in before you come in hot buddy.
I didnt even readdd your post and somehow you reply to me like you're the SLU authority and i said something to you 😂

No matter what justification you say, adding an exercise mimetic like SLU should not be the first line of defense against fatigue. The OP didn't start this thread because he's asking for a boost for his workouts...he's stating a problem that he's noticed since taking reta. Anyone trying to problem solve would try to brain storm about WHY this is happening rather than what he should add to his stack to fix it. That's common sense. No problem with encouraging people to use it...but do it to work toward a goal, not to try a fix a possible serious problem.
Also, why not suggest GW501516? Why not nootropics? Why not kanna?

I'm also replying to this as someone who has used ALL OF THIS, so its not new and hot and trendy for me to suggest it.

I wouldn't say that was really coming in hot, but OK. I never said an exercise mimetic should be the first line of defense. But it is something to consider, yes?

Why not suggest cardarine? Well, as someone in cancer remission who has read the studies on cardarine when I was considering using it, I was a little spooked by the fact that it caused all kinds of cancer in mice unlike just about any substance I have ever heard of. Granted, the mice were taking some high doses, but that was just messed up. I think it might be the most cancer-causing substance I have ever heard of, honestly. If you want to try that, be my guest. I'm pretty adventurous and not risk-averse, but damn. Cardarine is plain scary.

SLU-PP-332 is new and hot and trendy because ... it's new. And for some people, it really works. That will make something hot and trendy.

But yeah, my advice for a middle-aged guy feeling fatigued is:

1. Get plenty of rest.
2. Eat well. Cut down on bad stuff and eat good stuff.
3. Don't overdo it with lifting.
4. Consider TRT.
5. Take some SLU-PP-332 and whatever else will help you.

 

[hexagonal]

Also, don't go so hard in your workout. Unless you are training as a competitive athlete, give yourself a break and don't overdo it. A few months ago, I overdid a workout and felt like absolute crap for a couple days. And I asked myself, why? Why am I going so hard to the point of injury? IDK. But don't do it. Your primary goal should be to maintain your health. You want to get the benefits of lifting, but it's counterproductive to injure yourself by going too hard for no good reason.

For lifting in particular if you want to make progress for anything beyond newb gains, you have to go pretty hard. Most of the growth stimulus occurs on the reps that are close to failure.

Even as we get older we can still train hard without putting ourselves at undue injury risk. Proper form, control the eccentric, work to 1-3 reps in reserve. For movements where it is safe to go to failure, do so periodically to help calibrate your RIR, or if you can recover from it, take the last set to failure regularly. Otherwise, you're getting exercise, but you're not going to be giving your muscles the cues they need to grow (or maintain, if in a severe deficit).

 

[rkl123]

Why not let the actual person I tagged chime in before you come in hot buddy.
I didnt even readdd your post and somehow you reply to me like you're the SLU authority and i said something to you 😂

No matter what justification you say, adding an exercise mimetic like SLU should not be the first line of defense against fatigue. The OP didn't start this thread because he's asking for a boost for his workouts...he's stating a problem that he's noticed since taking reta. Anyone trying to problem solve would try to brain storm about WHY this is happening rather than what he should add to his stack to fix it. That's common sense. No problem with encouraging people to use it...but do it to work toward a goal, not to try a fix a possible serious problem.
Also, why not suggest GW501516? Why not nootropics? Why not kanna?

I'm also replying to this as someone who has used ALL OF THIS, so its not new and hot and trendy for me to suggest it.

Unless you're kidding, GW is super carcinogenic.

 

[BenevolentMrTang]

For lifting in particular if you want to make progress for anything beyond newb gains, you have to go pretty hard. Most of the growth stimulus occurs on the reps that are close to failure.

Even as we get older we can still train hard without putting ourselves at undue injury risk. Proper form, control the eccentric, work to 1-3 reps in reserve. For movements where it is safe to go to failure, do so periodically to help calibrate your RIR, or if you can recover from it, take the last set to failure regularly. Otherwise, you're getting exercise, but you're not going to be giving your muscles the cues they need to grow (or maintain, if in a severe deficit).

This is why I said not to go "too hard." Sure, you need to go hard to get the benefits, but you're not training for Mr. Olympia or trying to keep your spot on an NFL team. So, yeah, don't go too hard.

7 years ago, I was in the top 1% of men my age in terms of strength. It's hard to admit that sometimes you need to slow down a bit and accept that you cannot physically do the things you did when you were younger. I had to accept this reality when I went a little overboard and hurt myself unnecessarily, resulting in not being able to train as usual. Father Time is undefeated.

 

[Theotherone55]

But yeah, my advice for a middle-aged guy feeling fatigued is:

1. Get plenty of rest.
2. Eat well. Cut down on bad stuff and eat good stuff.
3. Don't overdo it with lifting.
4. Consider TRT.
5. Take some SLU-PP-332 and whatever else will help you.

I agree with this for sure

Unless you're kidding, GW is super carcinogenic.

The dosage equated for humans is no where near possible to consume.
GW has also been on the market for quite awhile now and we havent seen cases of negative cancer or cancer-like effects.

 

[rkl123]

I agree with this for sure


The dosage equated for humans is no where near possible to consume.
GW has also been on the market for quite awhile now and we havent seen cases of negative cancer or cancer-like effects.

We have. There are a smattering of threads on MESO where a young individual with no cancer history gets giga cancered. Not really a substance anyone responsible should suggest.