Looking at glutathione from dm pharma, they all say "single dose vial." But I can use BAC to reconstitute instead of what they include to use it for multiple doses, is that right? Also, how do you choose a brand?! I mean I can just go by price, but what else?
Anyone Bought or used Glutathion or know a Vendor
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Yes, you can use BAC and multiple doses. The only brand I’ve had negative experience with is American Remedies. There were problems with the crimps on a few vials I ordered.
Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Yeah I'll try 3.5 or 4ml as I've done 2ccs in the delt before. No pen.
Glutathione isn’t acidic. Ive been using it for a year and it’s not crystallized gelled up once.
StonePny
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Anything below a ph of 7 is considered acidic. When you recon glutathione you get it to about 3.5 (hopefully). When I test it without buffering it's red on ph papers. That's very acidic.
I've been using it for a while too, and it has gelled up for me, not making it up.
FlowerFairy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Same, but I’m a few months behind Andy
I guess the laws of physics are just different in our respective kitchens. 😝 I’m referring to reactivity with the body. Not a ph scale. I was going to post a bunch of regurgitated online articles about acidity and alkalinity but nobody cares and their google works fine. I don’t test it, I follow instructions and it’s never caused me an ISR. If you do test it, it's more stable at pH 3-6. For me, it’s never gelled or crystallized. Ive reconstituted with BAC, Sterile Water and now only use Ascorbic Acid. It’s a pretty stable peptide. I know that the more alkaline a solution is, the more likely it is to gel, but I wonder if it gelling for some people is from them refrigerating it? It’s stable for a week at room temperature after reconstitution and I’m able to easily draw and inject with a 30g 1/2 inch syringe.
StonePny
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Room temp vs refrigeration may have a lot to do with the gelling/crystallizing.
I'll ignore the condescending, because I know it's just your way 🙂 and I've always tried to show you respect on this forum. Understand that saying "it's never caused me an ISR" doesn't mean that it doesn't for lots of other people. It's known in the Korean beauty circles to raise up painful welts. I hear it more often than not. Some people get welts and isr's from mots-c, some don't. Doesn't mean they're doing it wrong.
The reason I test it--I'm prepping it for my daughter who is pretty fragile health-wise, with zero fat on her body, so the reaction and welts have led me to test and buffer as much as I can. Also, when it's painful and burns like a m-f'er she'll be less likely to do it.
I was responding to someone's question with my experience, was not in the least trying to challenge yours.
I'll ignore the condescending, because I know it's just your way 🙂 and I've always tried to show you respect on this forum. Understand that saying "it's never caused me an ISR" doesn't mean that it doesn't for lots of other people. It's known in the Korean beauty circles to raise up painful welts. I hear it more often than not. Some people get welts and isr's from mots-c, some don't. Doesn't mean they're doing it wrong.
The reason I test it--I'm prepping it for my daughter who is pretty fragile health-wise, with zero fat on her body, so the reaction and welts have led me to test and buffer as much as I can. Also, when it's painful and burns like a m-f'er she'll be less likely to do it.
I was responding to someone's question with my experience, was not in the least trying to challenge yours.
All condescension aside, I hope your daughter benefits from it greatly. I think glutathione has some of the most profound benefits of any peptide.
StonePny
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Thanks, AP, I really appreciate it. It's been a long road (Lyme).
For what it's worth, I took it out of the fridge yesterday and it un-gelled significantly 😒 💜
Peptide Minister
GLP-1 Apprentice
Most of the indiamart sellers are not genuine. They sell fake products. I am from India and Kawall is a legit seller. This nine life health solutions is probably a fake seller. He is selling peptide sciences vials of NAD and other peptides. Those are obviously fake.
FlowerFairy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I knew Kawall was the real deal, but it’s nice to hear it from you too. Thank you for speaking up .
FlowerFairy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Totally agree about the USPS. They sent back a shipment from Kawall and swore it was because the address was wrong or unreadable- anyone who uses Kawall knows his labels are very legible and easily read; the address was correct- don’t know why they decided I must not really want my purchase. What made me the angriest was that I filed a missing package inquiry; they swore that couldn’t find it, but I tracked the dang thing BACK to New York and back to India. I was furious with that “we can’t find it” bs- it was being scanned at every stop on its way back to the sender. My local post office is trash. If they might have to get out of the truck they will wait until I have several packages and deliver them all at once. My last 2 boxes from India have been left where they are exposed to the weather; one was soaked. I was angry, but complaining when they returned the one box didn’t do anything but make things worse.
FlowerFairy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I add 1 cc lidocaine to the big bottle. No worse than NAD+. Kawall sells that, too.
I’ve got lidocaine coming from Underground Supply 👍
dietpepsee
GLP-1 Novice
From what I understand, India has suspended all shipments to the US due to the unclear new customs rules... how are you all handling this situation? Most Glutathion sources seem to be in India.
It’s not unclear new rules. India just isn’t capable of meeting all the requirements. They (India) are shipping some stuff via other countries and it adds a lot of transit time. My vendor isn’t using any 3P carriers like DHL because they require documentation and if someone lies it’s a whole new can of worms.
Just order from Chinese vendors if you need it. I ordered from the Koreans and received trash Ascorbic Acid. The Glutathione might have been fine but I didn’t pay to get it tested.
Fisherman2356
GLP-1 Enthusiast
What do you mean? You received the wrong product, or the quality of it was trash (and if you are talking about quality being trash, how would you know, unless you tested it?)
The quality. Because I’ve been using Glutathione and Ascorbic Acid for over a year now and it neither reconstituted the Glutathione properly nor did it have any effect.
Is the big bottle 1200 or 600mg?
50ShadesGreyMarket
GLP-1 Apprentice
I know you’re looking for grey, but if you want a good source, I’ve been pleased with INNO out of China, they have 600mg reduced injectable, GMP-certified with all paperwork.
If you’re looking for API manufacturers which are cheaper but you’ll have to go through a licensed third-party, I would go with BMT (China) or Hakko (Japan) - both are highly rated, GMP-certified and hold GRAS notification status for consistency so you won’t have to worry about additional costs for testing.
Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Do u pin subq or intra muscular.... maybe ill go with 4.5 ml to 1200mg and pin thrice a week 1.5cc intramuscular. Paranoid about the burn and don't wanna get a deltoid carved out surgically.... jeez I've self let pints of blood with an 18g harpoon but this scares me more....
FlowerFairy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I pin SQ. It’s not bad with the lido- I pinned once without, thinking it was already added- i now have a huge respect for @AndyPanda - I was a very unhappy camper!
@StonePny, have you been successful with balancing the pH levels? What I really want to know is how much bac water and bicarbonate water you add to your glut. I’m still experimenting and failing.
StonePny
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I've done 3ml bicarb and 2ml bac, and also done all bicarb. Have gone up to 6ml liquid before as well. The higher bicarb did bring it out of the dark red ph, but the 1/2 and 1/2 seemed to burn for less time. I've also drawn up lidocaine (not mixed it in vial) into syringe with the glutathione and that helped. This is for 1200mg glut by the way.
I've tried something else now, that I think is the BEST (for me) so far: I ordered the 0.9% sodium chloride bac water (still has alcohol) and used that, 5ml. It stung a tiny bit, but went away after 10 minutes.
I found info from a wellness clinic and that's what they recommend for injection and basically it's saline which is what is used for IV glutathione.
Also, I've found the best place subq for this large (1ml) injection is in the butt with a slightly longer needle.
FlowerFairy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I’m sticking with my Indian vendors. Ihave enough to get through a longer transit. I trust that supplier so I’m sticking with it.
dietpepsee
GLP-1 Novice
I'm cool with longer transits... what I'm worried about is no transit at all. Online pharmacy storefronts that I've used before have suspended shipping to the US for now. 🙁
FlowerFairy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Kawaii is shipping. So is my backup vendor- but his gluta is super spicy even w/lido…
