Anyone buying from ERP

I contacted Louise via a confirmed method so I could be certain it was her and not an imposter, and she confirmed sending out these requests.

Apparently their PayPal account has been frozen (a common occurrence with research suppliers) and they cannot access the funds for 180 days. Their proposed solution is to have customers pay for orders a second time at the discounted price via crypto, and then they will issue a refund of the original payment via PayPal.

PayPal usually allows sellers to issue refunds from frozen funds, so on its face it seems like a reasonable solution. The "good" part about these being PayPal payments is that they give you 180 days to file a dispute, so anyone who makes a "replacement" payment via crypto can still go back later and file a dispute with PayPal if they do not receive a refund.

I am not going to recommend whether anyone should do this or not. Everyone has to make decisions based on what is best for them and their situation. I simply wanted to clarify/confirm whether or not this was really ERP/Louise, and I am reasonably confident that it is.
Thanks for taking the time to delve into this! Your vigilance is always appreciated!

I guess my recommendation to Louise et al at ERP would be to handle things in the proper order: 1. Reverse the PayPal transaction. 2. Give the prospective buyer 48 or 72 hours to pay via crypto with a discount.

That would go a long way in building trust.
 
Dammit, im gonna have to learn crypto at some point. Luckily have been able to secure lots of peps so far but it looks.like that train is puffing the wrong direction.

The alternative is to pay way to much to places like amino lair. Boo.
Any experience with bank transfers? I've seen several vendors that accept them. Im not super excited about crypto either.
 
Thanks for taking the time to delve into this! Your vigilance is always appreciated!

I guess my recommendation to Louise et al at ERP would be to handle things in the proper order: 1. Reverse the PayPal transaction. 2. Give the prospective buyer 48 or 72 hours to pay via crypto with a discount.

That would go a long way in building trust.
I think the big issue is it’s locked, they most likely can’t action refunds right now. So I’m hesitant to send them anything if it’s not guaranteed I even get my original amount back
 
Any experience with bank transfers? I've seen several vendors that accept them. Im not super excited about crypto either.
That scares me more than PayPal. Totally transparent to government authorities regulating the banking industry. So both the US and the CCP will see what you’re transferring from your account to the Chinese vendor.

Move along…,.nothing to see here……

Learn crypto.
 
I think the big issue is it’s locked, they most likely can’t action refunds right now. So I’m hesitant to send them anything if it’s not guaranteed I even get my original amount back
I haven’t been asked, but there’s no way I’d do it unless they refunded the PayPal first. And I’m sure they don’t trust customers enough to do that. But I wouldn’t trust that I’d ever get my PayPal back either. I can see where this creates some cash flow issues for them, but the bottom line is that the money has left your account and is sitting in theirs.
 
I had also paid with PayPal, and the money was transferred back shortly before Christmas. I read that PayPal's guidelines prohibit illegal purchases of medication abroad. I then used ChatGBD to help me carry out a step-by-step crypto transfer. I took a screenshot of each step in the Coinbase app and uploaded it to Ki. The chatbot guided me through the process and told me what I had to do. Although I still wouldn't be able to pay with crypto on my own, I would do it again in a heartbeat..
 
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