Anyone else jump on the nexaph t30 presale...

Grogu said:
They’ll say of it’s better than Temu Tirz, but then why is it full of staph.
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I can’t deal with the full-of-staph thing. I just can’t unsee that. I’m filtering now because of it and it’s not like the vendor behaved well after it happened and he got called out.

There is a pizza place not far from me that I used to get pizza from very occasionally until the place got shut down for dirty dining for a couple of days and when a news reporter asked the owner about it he got belligerent and rude to the reporter.

I’ve never been back, never will go back. There is other pizza anyway.
 
Grogu said:
The thing is that it is Temu Tirz just with a bow tie in a pretty purple box. This statement is the same type of thing the shills proffer and then go buy their own stuff using GBs. It’s all the same stuff. They’ll say of it’s better than Temu Tirz, but then why is it full of staph.
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I would agree that it is all coming from the same sources. The ease of credit card payments and quicker shipping creates a value for the consumer. Some will happily pay the mark up as I did. I am fully aware that people had to throw away the December pre sale due to sterility issues along with higher endo counts. They are no where close to being a great vendor including the Tesa/BPC mix up just last month. Almost none of them are. Jeeps disaster with the t30 endo and the response was horrific and quickly course corrected once consumers reacted.Hardly a shill. Had a great strategic gamble and so far it has won. That will not always be the case.
 
Nopenada said:
I can’t deal with the full-of-staph thing. I just can’t unsee that. I’m filtering now because of it and it’s not like the vendor behaved well after it happened and he got called out.

There is a pizza place not far from me that I used to get pizza from very occasionally until the place got shut down for dirty dining for a couple of days and when a news reporter asked the owner about it he got belligerent and rude to the reporter.

I’ve never been back, never will go back. There is other pizza anyway.
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Yup, some things you just can't unsee!
 
chewonmysac said:
I would agree that it is all coming from the same sources. The ease of credit card payments and quicker shipping creates a value for the consumer. Some will happily pay the mark up as I did. I am fully aware that people had to throw away the December pre sale due to sterility issues along with higher endo counts. They are no where close to being a great vendor including the Tesa/BPC mix up just last month. Almost none of them are. Jeeps disaster with the t30 endo and the response was horrific and quickly course corrected once consumers reacted.Hardly a shill. Had a great strategic gamble and so far it has won. That will not always be the case.
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OMG! I've been so busy with the tax deadline and totally missed it (well, I didn't have a horse in the race so I wasn't really following). JEEP steps up and does the right thing. That's EXACTLY what Nexaph should have done. I would actually consider buying from JEEP now. I'd 100% buy JEEP over Nexaph at this point.

I'm really not trying to give you a hard time, but for JEEP it's a disaster and horrific inital response but it's not the same for Nexaph? If JEEP can issue replacement kits, so could Nexaph. And if people don't see that, something is up.
 
Grogu said:
OMG! I've been so busy with the tax deadline and totally missed it (well, I didn't have a horse in the race so I wasn't really following). JEEP steps up and does the right thing. That's EXACTLY what Nexaph should have done. I would actually consider buying from JEEP now. I'd 100% buy JEEP over Nexaph at this point.

I'm really not trying to give you a hard time, but for JEEP it's a disaster and horrific inital response but it's not the same for Nexaph? If JEEP can issue replacement kits, so could Nexaph. And if people don't see that, something is up.
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You are one of the smartest dudes on here and I appreciate your candor and I agree Cain should have stepped up and he didn't.
 
Summer48 said:
Think I must have missed something here what’s the privlem with some of nexaphs products. I’ve got quite a few some bought around December too
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12/23 Pre-Order
Batch: 2TZ3012242025-20 was in question and has been tested multiple times using different labs. Showed yeast, higher than normal Endo but acceptable, and Staph bacteria strains.
 
I posted this thread Apr 2025.... i see where its relevent now, same presale but a whole 5 bucks cheaper. Normally id pass. With the chinese shipping halted and us warehouses selling out, I did 1 last run with Cain... closing the Terry Benedict freezer after this so not even Oceans fourteen can get in.... ( after 1 more reta, mots and tesa I meant)
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Getting spooked with all the recent seizures I'm seeing on vendors discord. Seen the pre-sale this am for 210 including shipping which is same or cheaper than what I pay with hk and lspl after paypal surcharge and shipping. I'm using nexas ret and sema last month no complaints...
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I just got mine delivered for the early april t30 presale. Any info on testing groups for it?
 
Airborne Daddy said:
I posted this thread Apr 2025.... i see where its relevent now, same presale but a whole 5 bucks cheaper. Normally id pass. With the chinese shipping halted and us warehouses selling out, I did 1 last run with Cain... closing the Terry Benedict freezer after this so not even Oceans fourteen can get in.... ( after 1 more reta, mots and tesa I meant)
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Oh dang. I can't read. 2025 😆
 
ThatNextGril said:
I think I've got almost 8 years of tirz, all from his presales. So, yeah, I realllllyyy don't need any more. 🤣 But I'm starting to think about GB for other peps I'm getting into and liking. Eventually, I'll need to do more looking into them and how to join, etc.
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I thought they only stay good for like two years?? What are you going to do with eight years worth??
 
DragonOfTheSea said:
This.


The search function is your best friend, @UghItsStupidNIHateIT and welcome to the forum!
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I have been reading. I haven’t come across anything that says peptides can be stored for eight years. That’s why I asked. Maybe I’m not using the right search words but it’s not readily available.
 
Grogu said:
OMG! I've been so busy with the tax deadline and totally missed it (well, I didn't have a horse in the race so I wasn't really following). JEEP steps up and does the right thing. That's EXACTLY what Nexaph should have done. I would actually consider buying from JEEP now. I'd 100% buy JEEP over Nexaph at this point.

I'm really not trying to give you a hard time, but for JEEP it's a disaster and horrific inital response but it's not the same for Nexaph? If JEEP can issue replacement kits, so could Nexaph. And if people don't see that, something is up.
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Everyone was upset w/ Jeep's initial reaction. Then it got fixed. The first reaction is the one you should care about. This tells you everything you need to know about them.

Nexaph? I think a lot of people have been screwed by them. I have. Hell the dudes name is Cain. That should have been a clue.
 
Calm Logic said:
Report the e-mails as spam, haha.
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I really don’t mind, I follow Nexaph as I think they’re a indicator of the status of the industry.

I follow them on telegram and there is a robust community doing 3rd party testing.

I just watched a video of their liophization process and the AI summary led me to believe that it was done in the USA using industry standard equipment.
 
Turbo-Farmer said:
I just watched a video of their liophization process and the AI summary led me to believe that it was done in the USA using industry standard equipment.
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It doesn't even matter that you are wrong about that. The bigger issue is failed sterility showing Nexaph is nothing special. And some intra-batch variability in the past, showing inconsistent fills (some vials with more mgs than others). And some previous endo results being less than kosher.

Cain/Nexaph is getting everything from China, like everyone else. He isn't finishing anything domestically, except maybe for some homebrew-looking NAD+ last year. The NAD+ looked so melted, it was the last straw for some people here.
 
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Calm Logic said:
It doesn't even matter that you are wrong about that. The bigger issue is failed sterility showing Nexaph is nothing special. And some intra-batch variability in the past, showing inconsistent fills (some vials with more mgs than others). And some previous endo results being less than kosher.

Cain/Nexaph is getting everything from China, like everyone else. He isn't finishing anything domestically, except maybe for some homebrew-looking NAD+ last year. The NAD+ looked so melted, it was the last straw for some people here.
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Have you seen the video? It’s an interesting example of the lio process

I Agree there’s nothing special about Nexaph except the fancy boxes
 
UghItsStupidNIHateIT said:
I have been reading. I haven’t come across anything that says peptides can be stored for eight years. That’s why I asked. Maybe I’m not using the right search words but it’s not readily available.
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You can store them in power form for decades in the freezer according to Peter Magic from Janoshik Labs.
 
Rolltide61 said:
Everyone was upset w/ Jeep's initial reaction. Then it got fixed. The first reaction is the one you should care about. This tells you everything you need to know about them.

Nexaph? I think a lot of people have been screwed by them. I have. Hell the dudes name is Cain. That should have been a clue.
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The only reason it got fixed with Jeep, in my opinion, are the GBOs and test server leads intervened. One GB Vendor said on TG that they could “shut Jeep down” if the resolution wasn’t acceptable. I’m not sure about that, but to me, Jeep’s distribution is inherently different than Nexaph’s which is characterized by individual buyers and a well oiled propaganda machine on TG.

So, yeah, Jeep’s initial reaction is their true colors. They intended to screw people. But there was clearly a mechanism in place to correct that course. With Nexaph, not so much. Shills galore explaining to folks that filtering will fix things and that you shouldn’t expect peptides without a little staph. Without group buyers, Nexaph is under no pressure to correct. And Nexaph’s independent testing servers are ripe full of shills reporting back to Cain.
 
Grogu said:
The only reason it got fixed with Jeep, in my opinion, are the GBOs and test server leads intervened. One GB Vendor said on TG that they could “shut Jeep down” if the resolution wasn’t acceptable. I’m not sure about that, but to me, Jeep’s distribution is inherently different than Nexaph’s which is characterized by individual buyers and a well oiled propaganda machine on TG.

So, yeah, Jeep’s initial reaction is their true colors. They intended to screw people. But there was clearly a mechanism in place to correct that course. With Nexaph, not so much. Shills galore explaining to folks that filtering will fix things and that you shouldn’t expect peptides without a little staph. Without group buyers, Nexaph is under no pressure to correct. And Nexaph’s independent testing servers are ripe full of shills reporting back to Cain.
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Totally agree to both your points. I counted Jeep out immediately, and Nexaph will never hit my vendor list.

As all of this moves along, unless there is some more time-sensitive need, GB's or GB-adjacent purchases are certainly my main path forward.. with so much more accountability, visibility, consumer influence, and testing potential. Having a base foundation of kits, it's now viable to have future kits "floating" in the 2-months-away-from-order-date window out there and not stress.
 
DragonOfTheSea said:
As all of this moves along, unless there is some more time-sensitive need, GB's or GB-adjacent purchases are certainly my main path forward.. with so much more accountability, visibility, consumer influence, and testing potential. Having a base foundation of kits, it's now viable to have future kits "floating" in the 2-months-away-from-order-date window out there and not stress.
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This 100% spot on for what I'm doing. It might take 6-8 weeks or so to get it, but I know I'll get it, and it's like Christmas when it shows. I have plenty to hold me over till it shows up. I do have 2 dedicated guys I buy from, because I like their product and the fast shipping.
 
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